As a gay man,can you accept to have sex with a transgender woman and even get topped?

[say995]

It's like a question staying in my mind forever.I notice there seemingly more and more alleged gay performers and content creators have sex with transgender woman and mostly they are bottom.I don't know if they just collaborating or simply lying about sexuality.Either way regarding to me is literally confusing

First thing first, we need to agree on one crucial premise.Gay men are the men who are exclusively attracted to man both romantically and sexually ,right?In this case, it’s absolutely unimaginable and unbelievable for me that a gay man feel comfortable and pleasurable to being topped by a woman?Don’t get me wrong.I like watching trans porn which even triggers some kind of BI inside me.I have followed plenty of trans woman twitter and only fans.However the major reason I am doing this is that I want to see the hot straight/BI men(alleged but limit to trans women, so plz stop calling yourself BI)get fucked than I am attracted to TS . After a period of exploring this journey and that's when I found some gay men were also involved.I still remember how shocked I was when I came across one twitter that is about a hung trans woman who was in an outdoor gay festival and quite a few gay guy eagerly and impulsively came over to suck and get fucked.Hopefully,I was wrong about them and they were straight/bi, which would have made some sense to me


I couldn’t help asking why.If it’s all about business and collaboration,it couldn’t explain what I saw in twitter.If some defend it’s about sexual desire flexibility,that would be nonsense.Being topped by transgender woman is almost like being strap-on by a woman.If that is sexually accepted by a gay men,I would say how about we call the entire human race pansexual.If it’s because that they are desperate and horny bottoms and want every dicks in their mouths and their holes, that could explain somehow, but still I am highly skeptical if that kind of urge can really break the limits of sexual orientation. If possible,it could be my greatest shock of the year.Before this post,I talked with several friends about this and all of them are on my side and some even thought this kind of idea grossed them out.

Anyway,I still want to hear what you guys think,especially those gay amigos who had this kind of experience

 

[LPSG Simon]

I think that more and more, sexual orientation and gender constructs as binaries need to be broken down, unpacked, and dismantled.

Both are a spectrum. If you're attracted to someone, you're attracted to someone. What you do with each other is all up to the people doing it.

Im sure there are plenty of guys who consider themselves gay because they like dick. Dick in their mouth, dick in their ass, etc... maybe the other partner's gender doesn't play into that as long as they have one. Boom that opens the door to all sorts of combinations and possibilities.

Same as how some gay guys like other guys, but if the other guy happens to own a vagina, and that's up for being part of the sex they have, then great.

The thing about sex and gender is that there's no wrong way to do it, so even though there are people who are really into the conventional categories for things, there are just as many who don't really care, or don't see it that way. There's no right and wrong way to do it, and those parameters only really matter to the people who do it, and how they want that to come into play with who / how they fuck.

 

[deleted14493941]

I think that more and more, sexual orientation and gender constructs as binaries need to be broken down, unpacked, and dismantled.

Both are a spectrum. If you're attracted to someone, you're attached to someone. What you do with each other is all up to the people doing it.

Im sure there are plenty of guys who consider themselves gay because they like dick. Dick in their mouth, dick in their ass, etc... maybe the other partner's gender doesn't play into that as long as they have one. Boom that opens the door to all sorts of combinations and possibilities.

Same as how some gay guys like other guys, but if the other guy happens to own a vagina, and that's up for being part of the sex they have, then great.

The thing about sex and gender is that there's no wrong way to do it, so even though there are people who are really into the conventional categories for things, there are just as many who don't really care, or don't see it that way. There's no right and wrong way to do it, and those parameters only really matter to the people who do it, and how they want that to come into play with who / how they fuck.

THIS right here.

The binary is a construct. The reality is that human sexuality, gender, and biology are anything but "this or that". There exists a spectrum of humans -- even chromosomes have a spectrum (it's not just XX or XY contrary to widely held belief).

Maybe they did it for money. Maybe they did it for love. Maybe they did it for dick. In the end, does it matter? If you don't feel that way, there's no need to assume that someone else's desire is disingenuous.

We don't need to understand some things to accept them. Like gravity, quantum entanglement, and IKEA assembly instructions.

I am nonbinary and I get told I don't "look" nonbinary. But all that means is that my gender doesn't fit the binary limitations of either/or. It has little to do with appearance or expression, like I mentioned and @LPSG Simon so eloquently put it, it's a really fucking beautiful gradient of human existence.

 

[zoo11]

It's like a question staying in my mind forever.I notice there seemingly more and more alleged gay performers and content creators have sex with transgender woman and mostly they are bottom.I don't know if they just collaborating or simply lying about sexuality.Either way regarding to me is literally confusing

First thing first, we need to agree on one crucial premise.Gay men are the men who are exclusively attracted to man both romantically and sexually ,right?In this case, it’s absolutely unimaginable and unbelievable for me that a gay man feel comfortable and pleasurable to being topped by a woman?Don’t get me wrong.I like watching trans porn which even triggers some kind of BI inside me.I have followed plenty of trans woman twitter and only fans.However the major reason I am doing this is that I want to see the hot straight/BI men(alleged but limit to trans women, so plz stop calling yourself BI)get fucked than I am attracted to TS . After a period of exploring this journey and that's when I found some gay men were also involved.I still remember how shocked I was when I came across one twitter that is about a hung trans woman who was in an outdoor gay festival and quite a few gay guy eagerly and impulsively came over to suck and get fucked.Hopefully,I was wrong about them and they were straight/bi, which would have made some sense to me


I couldn’t help asking why.If it’s all about business and collaboration,it couldn’t explain what I saw in twitter.If some defend it’s about sexual desire flexibility,that would be nonsense.Being topped by transgender woman is almost like being strap-on by a woman.If that is sexually accepted by a gay men,I would say how about we call the entire human race pansexual.If it’s because that they are desperate and horny bottoms and want every dicks in their mouths and their holes, that could explain somehow, but still I am highly skeptical if that kind of urge can really break the limits of sexual orientation. If possible,it could be my greatest shock of the year.Before this post,I talked with several friends about this and all of them are on my side and some even thought this kind of idea grossed them out.

Anyway,I still want to hear what you guys think,especially those gay amigos who had this kind of experience

No, it depends on who you ask - gay (homosexual) men could be considered men that are exclusively attracted to men, or they could be considered men that are mostly attracted to men.

I'm ... gay. But I like some girls... only sometimes. Should I come out to everyone as bi now? I don't know. But I'm mostly into men. So am I really bi?

If you've ever seen Queer as Folk, Justin actually fucks Daphne in one of the episodes, and Ben describes his experience with girls to Michael as "It was okay", despite identifying as gay. Something similar happens to Lindsay where she falls for this guy despite identifying as a lesbian through and through.

The labels we use are hardly perfect but they're good enough for now. The "not label" people are kinda silly to me because if we didn't use labels we wouldn't be able to communicate. We need better labels.

 

[deleted5267431]

No

 

[GetNakedIGotAPlan]

This is the issue with the inherently flawed, even at face value, “transwomen and women” argument. I’ve actually been topped by a transwoman before so I’m resistance to any accusations of “transphobia”. This transwoman had some feminine features such as her nails painted and long hair but nonetheless gave the outward appearance of a man. Masculine face; extremely tall; big hands; penis; deep voice etc. Any person would look at this person and come to the conclusion they were born a man.

Now why did I have sex with this transwoman despite the fact I consider myself a homosexual and wouldn’t have sex with a ciswoman in this specific instance? Because I’m attracted to men. That’s the most simple and truist explanation to the situation. At the end of the day despite the fact she understands herself as a woman, and I understand her as a woman, because I’m sexually attracted to men so why wouldn’t I be attracted to someone who looks identical to a man? There was nothing to suggest sexually she was a woman whatsoever.

There isn’t any amount of mental gymnastics you can do to even begin to justify any other conclusion without suggesting I’m actually a straight guy, because there’s a chance every single person I’ve seen online that I’m sexually attracted to is a transwoman. Can anyone with a straight face really tell me that?

I once had vegan sausages for breakfast (lol… sausage). They tasted kind of gross. Later I found out they weren’t real sausages but instead vegan sausages. You can never make sausages out of anything but meat, so is it even right to call them “sauasages”, or to say I disliked sausages? Or to call a carrot made of meat a carrot? If I tasted a meat carrot I can’t say carrots are gross because carrots have zero meat in them. Once you start to use dumbed-down versions of this arugument the flaws are more prominent. There are old literary works like Twelfth Night as well.

It’s not unreasonable to expect gay men to be attracted to people who have a part of the body exclusive to men (penis). Now I would find a man claiming to be gay to be attracted to someone who gives the outward appearance of a woman (smaller frame, feminine face, makeup, breasts, vagina, high pitch voice etc.) dubious. Otherwise I don’t find it hard to reconcile.

Below I’ve provided a description of what a “woman” is.

 

[deleted5267431]

This is the issue with the inherently flawed, even at face value, “transwomen and women” argument. I’ve actually been topped by a transwoman before so I’m resistance to any accusations of “transphobia”. This transwoman had some feminine features such as her nails painted and long hair but nonetheless gave the outward appearance of a man. Masculine face; extremely tall; big hands; penis; deep voice etc. Any person would look at this person and come to the conclusion they were born a man.

Now why did I have sex with this transwoman despite the fact I consider myself a homosexual and wouldn’t have sex with a ciswoman in this specific instance? Because I’m attracted to men. That’s the most simple and truist explanation to the situation. At the end of the day despite the fact she understands herself as a woman, and I understand her as a woman, because I’m sexually attracted to men so why wouldn’t I be attracted to someone who looks identical to a man? There was nothing to suggest sexually she was a woman whatsoever.

There isn’t any amount of mental gymnastics you can do to even begin to justify any other conclusion without suggesting I’m actually a straight guy, because there’s a chance every single person I’ve seen online that I’m sexually attracted to is a transwoman. Can anyone with a straight face really tell me that?

I once had vegan sausages for breakfast (lol… sausage). They tasted kind of gross. Later I found out they weren’t real sausages but instead vegan sausages. You can never make sausages out of anything but meat, so is it even right to call them “sauasages”, or to say I disliked sausages? Or to call a carrot made of meat a carrot? If I tasted a meat carrot I can’t say carrots are gross because carrots have zero meat in them. Once you start to use dumbed-down versions of this arugument the flaws are more prominent. There are old literary works like Twelfth Night as well.

It’s not unreasonable to expect gay men to be attracted to people who have a part of the body exclusive to men (penis). Now I would find a man claiming to be gay to be attracted to someone who gives the outward appearance of a woman (smaller frame, feminine face, makeup, breasts, vagina, high pitch voice etc.) dubious. Otherwise I don’t find it hard to reconcile.

Below I’ve provided a description of what a “woman” is.

So,based on the person you had sex with is a drag queen because you didn't say he/it had breast implants or vagina but said he had all characteristics of a male and how he was created but still called him "trans" because he had "long painted nails and long hair" so do you classify every guy with long painted nails and long hair a "transwoman" because your description is you do lmao Also,you posted what is defined as woman but failed to define or post your definition of transgender because a TRUE transgender/transfemale has sexual organ reassignment surgery,and breast inplants AFTER gone through years of hormonal replacement therapy,pschological therapy,etc not counting the MANY plastic surgeries on various parts of the body to look as close to a female as possible. Putting on makeup,even just having breast implants inserted in your male chest cavity DOES NOT make you trans ANYTHING! So many on chaturbate are delusional that do just that and call themselves "transfemale" when in reality they are mere guys or men if you will with wigs and makeup on and yes,lots get breast implants but THEY ARE STILL MEN. In the end,we ALL will face god our true creator for our own judgement and i would LOVE to hear them all that HE made a mistake when HE created them a male. You're young and should figure this out one day.

 

[Amaethon]

No, I'm a gay man. I only like men who look like men. It's not rocket science. This shit keeps getting asked and peddled here by porn addicts who don't even know they have a problem.

 

[deleted14493941]

So,based on the person you had sex with is a drag queen because you didn't say he/it had breast implants or vagina but said he had all characteristics of a male and how he was created but still called him "trans" because he had "long painted nails and long hair" so do you classify every guy with long painted nails and long hair a "transwoman" because your description is you do lmao Also,you posted what is defined as woman but failed to define or post your definition of transgender because a TRUE transgender/transfemale has sexual organ reassignment surgery,and breast inplants AFTER gone through years of hormonal replacement therapy,pschological therapy,etc not counting the MANY plastic surgeries on various parts of the body to look as close to a female as possible. Putting on makeup,even just having breast implants inserted in your male chest cavity DOES NOT make you trans ANYTHING! So many on chaturbate are delusional that do just that and call themselves "transfemale" when in reality they are mere guys or men if you will with wigs and makeup on and yes,lots get breast implants but THEY ARE STILL MEN. In the end,we ALL will face god our true creator for our own judgement and i would LOVE to hear them all that HE made a mistake when HE created them a male. You're young and should figure this out one day.

This isn’t really accurate, although it’s a commonly held belief. The transness of someone or their “true” identity isn’t necessarily determined by their biology or medical status or genitalia (lack thereof). Not all trans folks undergo all surgical procedures —some don’t undergo any. Not all are on HRT. Some start and then stop and then start again — like trans men who want to give birth do. Although this is specifically about trans women …

but the trans struggle on a broad view is for the right to self determination. So, let trans folks tell us who they are rather than go on a diatribe about certain people for not being trans enough.

you don’t have to have sex with anyone you don’t want to. Who cares if that person identifies as a trans woman or a man as long as you find them sexually appealing?

 

[dreambridger]

I am much more likely to go to bed with a trans man than a trans woman. So masculine expression and male energy is much more a priority to me than the equipment. Gay trans men feel like gay men to me, they have the libido and attitude that gay men have.

I not into people who wear make-up, not into stockings, i'm bored by tiddies, women feel too soft to me no matter how hard their dick might be. I'm not at all against the gender "binary", though I prefer to use the term "gender dyad" over "binary" because binary never felt right to me. People aren't computers.

Genuine trans people are to me the gender that they express, and don't contradict the dyad. There's some smokin' hot trans men. Transwomen turn me off whenever they show up in the porn I'm watching, and at least according to porn statistics, straight men are more likely going to be into trans women and the porn they star in. "Chicks with dicks" seems to be categorized as a straight fetish.

So my answer is no; I wouldn't accept. I'm not into chicks.

 

[theplayerking]

It could also just be the novelty factor. People that hookup a lot (gay or otherwise) tend to be sexually adventurous and open to trying new things. Their “identity,” if it needs to be labeled as such, is really about being willing to experiment.

I know that most trans persons (male or female) are not interested in being a sexual novelty item, but I assume that the trans persons that are actively looking to hookup with gay men on apps like Grindr understand what they are getting into.

 

[hvdude]

OK. So, the individual outwardly appears as a cisgender female? Then my answer is “no”. Now, if the person is a male, by all outwardly appearances, then “yes”. That is to say, as a 100% gay man I would have sex with a man who was formerly identified as a woman.

 

[LuciousCaress]

No, I just think those kinds of men have fantasies having sex with a woman with a penis. I seen straight or bi guys draw female anime and cartoon characters with dicks all over rule 34. I find it interesting, but my answer is no.

 

[BottomAtl]

It would be a no for me. It's the breasts, I think. They're just not attractive. That said, I'd have sex with a trans man! Some of them are sexy AF. And I say that as a bottom!

 

[Infernal]

If everyone is willing, and it feels good, then do it. How you define yourself is totally up to you. You don't have to fit yourself into a binary category that society at large gives you. I haven't had the opportunity to, but I'm not against getting naked with a trans man. Does that make me gay, or straight, or bi, or whatever? Who cares. I'm a sexual being who likes a little bit of this and some of that. How I define myself is up to me.

 

[deleted14493941]

If everyone is willing, and it feels good, then do it. How you define yourself is totally up to you. You don't have to fit yourself into a binary category that society at large gives you. I haven't had the opportunity to, but I'm not against getting naked with a trans man. Does that make me gay, or straight, or bi, or whatever? Who cares. I'm a sexual being who likes a little bit of this and some of that. How I define myself is up to me.

Self-determination and self-definition for the win

 

[deleted16124871]

no, i need a real cock, (that can grow, can get hard and blow me a big load down my throat) and tits don't do it for me either. i am gay and i like men, not something constructed. sorry.

 

[JopneJappa]

Don't think too seriously about it. Sexual attraction is based on preferences. If two people find themselves sexually attracted to each other, they shouldn't bother about age old definitions or stereotypes of who should like who. Although I will say that lately, Trans people and activists have been going a bit too far in calling out others. I am against transphobia like anyone but if a gay or lesbian person says that they don't feel sexually attracted to a Trans person and won't date them, it's not transphobia, it's just their sexual preference. You can't force your mind to feel attracted towards anyone, it comes naturally to you.

 

[Asstastic87]

I tend to agree mostly with the statement of it being novel(I don't mean this as a pejorative). Not saying transgender is novel or should be treated as such. I just think trans in general is so much more discussed now than ever before and there are more openly trans presenting people out now so it would naturally lead to curiosity. Those who are NOT under the umbrella of straight(including fully gay men) tend to seem more sexually open(not to hate on straights or make it sound like gays will just bang anything). So maybe they are testing it out since they probably like penis and maybe that overrides the feminine qualities exhibiting. Is it something I could do as a top who is interested in masculine presentation? No. Could I see that being something more bottoms would do? Yes.

 

[deleted15981831]

No