As a Homosexual, what needs to change in your country to make you feel equal citizen?

[RedHead8]

Are there any countries that grant citizenship (naturalization) via marriage/union, to foreign-born homosexuals?

Canada, as far as I know.

 

[RedHead8]

Just to add my little grain of salt in there...

I think one of the problems with some Americans is that they forgot that freedom comes with a certain responsability called "respect". Here, in Quebec, we strongly believe that one's freedom of speech stops where respect for others begins.

Some Americans seem to have forgotten that rule. They believe they have some sort of divine right to speek their mind, no matter the circomstances.

When you add religious dogmas to the mix, it gets explosive. Those who follow dogmas believe them to be the one and only truth. They are not open to any rational argument because religion is not rational.

That's when freedom looses its very signification: when one's freedom is coercitive for others.

This can only stop if people decide that religion is a private matter and that nobody has the right to impose his beliefs on others. In Canada, prime minister Trudeau made this principle into law.

The only way a person could see this as loosing freedom is if this person believes he/she has the right to impose on others. Yet... that's not a right, isn't it?

 

[mitchymo]

Just to add my little grain of salt in there...

I think one of the problems with some Americans is that they forgot that freedom comes with a certain responsability called "respect". Here, in Quebec, we strongly believe that one's freedom of speech stops where respect for others begins.

Some Americans seem to have forgotten that rule. They believe they have some sort of divine right to speek their mind, no matter the circomstances.

When you add religious dogmas to the mix, it gets explosive. Those who follow dogmas believe them to be the one and only truth. They are not open to any rational argument because religion is not rational.

That's when freedom looses its very signification: when one's freedom is coercitive for others.

This can only stop if people decide that religion is a private matter and that nobody has the right to impose his beliefs on others. In Canada, prime minister Trudeau made this principle into law.

The only way a person could see this as loosing freedom is if this person believes he/she has the right to impose on others. Yet... that's not a right, isn't it?

God Bless Canada!

 

[ginger_qboy]

Canada, as far as I know.

I too believe Canada does.


BTW, i haven't seen many cut dicks in Quebec! very niiice

 

[ginger_qboy]

Just to add my little grain of salt in there...

I think one of the problems with some Americans is that they forgot that freedom comes with a certain responsability called "respect". Here, in Quebec, we strongly believe that one's freedom of speech stops where respect for others begins.

Some Americans seem to have forgotten that rule. They believe they have some sort of divine right to speek their mind, no matter the circomstances.

When you add religious dogmas to the mix, it gets explosive. Those who follow dogmas believe them to be the one and only truth. They are not open to any rational argument because religion is not rational.

That's when freedom looses its very signification: when one's freedom is coercitive for others.

This can only stop if people decide that religion is a private matter and that nobody has the right to impose his beliefs on others. In Canada, prime minister Trudeau made this principle into law.

The only way a person could see this as loosing freedom is if this person believes he/she has the right to impose on others. Yet... that's not a right, isn't it?

thank-you.

 

[D_Relentless Original]

Nothing, everything works well for me as an equal citizen in many respects.

 

[tami_big]

dump Christianity and its hypocrisy! haha.

wait, maybe, the hypocrisy within the Christianity. (I am a Christian and ardent defender of the Church though)

 

[Guardian100]

Are there any countries that grant citizenship (naturalization) via marriage/union, to foreign-born homosexuals?

UK, Sweden, and Spain as far as I know don't know of any others.

 

[average7inch]

OK, there is the whole "cobbler's kids" stereotype, so it's not impossible, but c'mon, a "successful" lawyer expiring intestate? That one is a little tough to buy.

For the princely sum of $40, Quicken WillMaker will create a will, medical directives, medical power of attorney, and legal power of attorney, eliminating many of the widely discussed legal differences between straight couples and gay couples.

Lest any straight readers believe that their rights of survivorship are "automatic," don't bet your fortune on it. Any adult (18+) should create a medical directive and medical power of attorney, and any adult with assets over a few grand should have the rest of the package.

For the record, asshole inlaws/relatives are not exclusive to gay couples. No amount of legislated special rights can or will prevent them from being assholes.

Sure, there are a few laws and incentives that extend special rights to straight married couples at the federal level, but rather than extending special rights to another limited subset of the citizenry (gay couples), how about pursuing equal partnership/survivorship rights for everybody?

As a simple example, consider the scenario of a single adult offspring caring for elderly/disabled parents. Is Joe Jr. who has cared for Joe Sr. for the last 20 years any less deserving of Joe Sr.'s SSI benefits when Jr. hits 65 as Mrs. Joe Sr. would have been if she was still alive?

 

[larocca]

There are too many things that need to change in my country. Croatia ain't exactly known for any sort of tolerance for anyone that's different.

 

[COXMAN]

um... nothing really. Canadian society doesn't infringe on the rights of homosexuals.

I can marry a man, live 'common-law' with a man, allocate a male as my spouse for dental and drug benefits at work, a male couple can file taxes together... the list goes on.

not all individuals agree with the equal rights granted to homosexuals but those that do disagree are the minority!

I'm happy to live in a liberal society where ALL individuals are guaranteed freedom from discrimination due to ethnicity, race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, gender, age, etc... thanks to the Canadian Human Rights Act

Really, it boils down to homophobia. Gay sex disgusts and frightens the religious right in this country because
A) There are plenty of them that are closeted gays themselves.
B) They haven't quite gotten it through their heads that GAYS AREN'T INTERESTED IN HETEROS!!!!!

I have two dear friends who live in Vancouver, BC, are married, and happen to be lesbians. I'm glad they are somewhere that "gets it". Canada is one cool country.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

In order for us to get closer to the concept of equality, we have to eliminate the religious double standards in our society.

 

[B_Nick8]

Sure, there are a few laws and incentives that extend special rights to straight married couples at the federal level, but rather than extending special rights to another limited subset of the citizenry (gay couples), how about pursuing equal partnership/survivorship rights for everybody?

There are over fifteen hundred rights, benefits and privileges given by law to people who are "married" that are not extended to couples who are "domestic partners", much less co-habitating.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

warning: the following contains sarcasm

yeah if the united states ever wants to regain it's superior position in the world they really need to get back to the traditional values and cutstoms when southerners were encouraged to put chains on people and make them work for free, or at the very least let them drag african americans behind their pickup trucks until they're dead, just for looking at a white girl.

is that the kind of individuality you're talkin about?

You're way out of line. Africans have been chaining people in Africa and making them work for free (and still do) long before any southerners existed. Not much better in China. you've hardly got anything thing bitch about. what you do is your own business. keep it that way and no one will give you shit.


If you think the south is bad don't go to Jamaica or you may be the one dragged by the car. They really don't like gays and there's no one to protect you.

 

[mandoman]

In order for us to get closer to the concept of equality, we have to eliminate the religious double standards in our society.

That's the absolute truth!

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

Really, it boils down to homophobia. Gay sex disgusts and frightens the religious right in this country because
A) There are plenty of them that are closeted gays themselves.
B) They haven't quite gotten it through their heads that GAYS AREN'T INTERESTED IN HETEROS!!!!!

I have two dear friends who live in Vancouver, BC, are married, and happen to be lesbians. I'm glad they are somewhere that "gets it". Canada is one cool country.

really doesn't make much sense. a) i think there are some parts of gay sex anyone would find disgusting. same goes for straight sex. b) why would so many closeted gays want to hurt their own kind?

 

[Sergeant_Torpedo]

Please, stop shroud waving. We all face difficulties in life; most of us get on with it as best we can.

 

[mattflanders]

really doesn't make much sense. a) i think there are some parts of gay sex anyone would find disgusting. same goes for straight sex. b) why would so many closeted gays want to hurt their own kind?

a) true, nothing is black or white.
b) out of self-hatred, I think.

I feel like an equal citizen. There is same sex marriage and adoption in Belgium and lots more.

 

[bek2335]

Big E - speaking of keeping things to yourself, how about you hide your heterosexuality? What thadjock said was right on the money. You sound like an emotionally retarded straight white American man.

 

[nudeyorker]

I've never not felt like an equal citizen. Sure there are certainly things that could/should change;however in reading the things that people have listed... I have all of those things already or they are not applicable to me with the exception of legal marriage. I'm not really losing any sleep over that on a personal level because I'm happy with my life the way that it is. However I would like to see gay marriage legal in the US in every state so that people who want it have the right to choose.