There is so much animosity you can write volumes about it. Personally I think black men and black women have completely different values systems. And the frustration can be seen is so many obvious ways. 'No I don't want to no scrubs'.
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There is so much animosity you can write volumes about it. Personally I think black men and black women have completely different values systems. And the frustration can be seen is so many obvious ways. 'No I don't want to no scrubs'.
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And the corresponding " No I don't want to pigeons ".
I just want to know why black men and women are so snide and facetiously disrespectful toward each other.
I think it may have something to do with the many fatherless black households, but then again, I grew up in one and don't feel that animosity.
It's simple, blacks can be racists against blacks, and many are. There are a host of reasons, I believe it often boils down to punishing the entire race for the actions of a few. A girl got raped by a black man, her daddy was a black man who beat her, it was a black man sellin' drugs to her lil brother, so she's got a chip on her shoulder. For brothers, the mom was the neighborhood hoe, he didn't know who his daddy was and consequently didn't have anyone teaching him to respect women, especially black women. These are a few "for instances" but again, it's punishing the entire race cuz of a few bad apples.
That's cuz you're too aware and intelligent to ever fall into such a simplistic line of thinking regardless of your situation. I'm sad to say you probably represent the exception rather than the standard in that regard, growing up fatherless and not having any direct or indirect hangups about it.
I could tell you but then I would have to kill you. :tongue:
How 'bout you spank me and we call it even??
The animosity between blacks of different skin tones goes back to slavery. As a Geechee and more importantly a southern black person you should already know that.
:duh: The overseers and plantation owners frequently raped their slaves. The lighter skinned progeny of these unions were also bought into the "big house" and schooled along side the owners legitimate white children if the wife was understanding or perhaps just submissive enough to allow that. Otherwise it was not unusual for the child to be sent abroad, usually to France to be educated. It was not uncommon for the enitre house staff of a plantation to be light skinned and remarkably similar in looks to the owner of the plantation or the overseer of the slaves.
House staff traditionally received better food, clothing, were often educated and had a better quality of life than the field hands. Because they were often taken away from their parents in infancy and wet nursed, their attitudes to the darker field hands was one of being better. This is the origin of the animosity between dark and light skinned blacks.
As for what's going on between black men and women I have no friggin' clue.
I am tempted to say it's a class thing simply because I have always been middle class or better and I haven't really experienced what you and others keep mentioning. Nor have any of my middle-class black girlfriends.
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I knew the whole thing about the " house niggas and the field niggas ", which is how my grandaddy explained it to me and my sister when we were younger. I guess that young blacks of today are perpetuating a cycle that they aren't even aware of.
1. Why do black women in underprivelaged areas (the hood) have such low standards when choosing a mate? I noticed this in my neighborhood growing up. Seriously, if a brother will serve feinds all day and skip out on work and an education, why would you tattoo his name on your body and have his kids ?
2. Why is southern hospitality so damn good ?
3. Why is it so hard to break the hopeless paradigm of ghetto youths ?
1. Why do black women in underprivelaged areas (the hood) have such low standards when choosing a mate? I noticed this in my neighborhood growing up. Seriously, if a brother will serve feinds all day and skip out on work and an education, why would you tattoo his name on your body and have his kids ?
2. Why is southern hospitality so damn good ?
3. Why is it so hard to break the hopeless paradigm of ghetto youths ?
Why do people assume that if you're young (and especially young and black) they have to "educate" you. Even if something is common knowledge, they explain it to you as if you've been living with your eyes closed and ears covered, and never once opened a text book. This.....person, (don't wanna call him something that'll get me banned) in a John Mccain thread started "schooling" me about how Vietnam soldiers were treated when they came back, as if I didn't already know.
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its not about being black, people have done the same thing to me, makes them feel superior
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instead of asking questions about black women, why don't ya'll just try your luck and talk to a black woman. i know, i know, some of ya'll may be a little afraid; but just be yourself. if you try to put up a front then she is gonna catch that right off (that's any woman tho). take the adventure, and talk to a black woman.
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I know that this is njqt's thread but I hope she won't mind if I give my perspective on this. I don't think that it's that black people are better, I think it's that interracial sex is better.
I saw an experiment on TV a few years ago where the presenter (british geneticist Robert Winston) got six women to sleep for three nights in T-shirts. He took the shirts and beathed deeply through each one, picking the one he found most appealing. He picked the woman who was genetically most different from him.
This makes perfect sense when you consider that disparate genes make healthier beings. Even if this advantage is tiny. Maybe that you would be 0.5% more likely to succesfully breed, it would all add up over hundreds of generations.
Of course in real life this attraction has to fight more powerful social/political/religeous factors but I think those of us that have experienced interacial sex get hooked.
My girlfriend of the last 18 months is jamaican and gets incredibly turned on by the smell of my sweat in a way that no white woman ever has. It works both ways. On those rare occasions that she goes to bed without showering...
I have heard many white people say this about sex with Latinos and Asians as well as Blacks and I always thought they were crazy.
I just saw that last night. Someone posted it in another thread, I thought it was fascinating.
This makes perfect sense when you consider that disparate genes make healthier beings. Even if this advantage is tiny. Maybe that you would be 0.5% more likely to succesfully breed, it would all add up over hundreds of generations.:redface: Guilty as charged :yup: I do love me some thick white meat.
My girlfriend of the last 18 months is jamaican and gets incredibly turned on by the smell of my sweat in a way that no white woman ever has. It works both ways. On those rare occasions that she goes to bed without showering...
Because many of the non-black men who find black women attractive on this site are young and I think perhaps easily intimidated by the media stereotype of the strong (aka mouthy) black woman.
No, this is the first question I have seen you ask in quite a few pages.
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I dunno :dunno: I have never understood this myself.
Southern hospitality is a phrase used in American English to describe the stereotype that residents of the Southern United States are particularly warm and welcoming to visitors to their in general.homes, or to the South.
Some characteristics of southern hospitality were described as early as 1835, when Jacob Abbott attributed the poor quality of taverns in the south to the lack of need for them, given the willingness of southerners to provide for strangers.[1]
A large component of the idea of Southern hospitality is the provision of Southern cuisine to visitors, hence there are a number of cookbooks that promise recipes advancing this purpose.
Other features of Southern Hospitality include proper local etiquette (i.e., calling one "Sir" or "Ma'am," opening doors for women, cooking enough for everyone often a way to make the visitor feel as comfortable as possible in an unfamiliar who might be around at mealtime, inviting one to church functions, etc.) While persons from outside the region often mistake many of the southern hospitality customs as being disingenuous or fake in some way, in actuality the customs are setting. Additionally, although some customs may be seen as odd or even offensive by people not from the South, they are considered polite in local culture and usually meant as an expression of traditional warm greeting.
Food figures highly in Southern hospitality. A cake or other delicacy is often brought to the door of a new neighbor as a mechanism of introduction. Many club and church functions include a meal or at least a dessert and beverage. Churches in the South frequently have large commercial style kitchens to accommodate this tradition, but many "fellowship suppers" are "covered dish": everyone attending brings a dish. However, if a newcomer arrives without a dish, he or she will be made to feel welcome and served generously. When a death or serious illness occurs, neighbors, friends, and church members generally bring food to the bereaved family for a period of time.
Several cities are viewed as being bastions of Southern hospitality. These include Charleston, South Carolina, Columbia, South Carolina, Nashville, Tennessee, Wilmington, North Carolina, Birmingham, Alabama, Memphis, Tennessee and Savannah, Georgia.
Ghetto youths have a paradigm? Maybe if they would all just read that Stephen Covey book, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, and acted on what they learned we could put an end to racial ghettos in this country. :biggrin1:
Sorry to be so glib; but questions like this and the first one you asked are almost impossible for me to provide an intelligent answer to; because that's not my world.
You're kinda new to LPSG so you may not realize that I grew up in an upper-middle class neighborhood in central New Jersey which was primarily Jewish, Italian, and Irish. During my early years I attended exclusive, private, prep schools, not to be confused with parochial schools. My life was and is closer to that of The Cosby Show than Good Times.
I am not unaware of the problems many blacks survive in ghettos across the country but I am at a complete loss as to explain how they got there or give viable ways to improve or abolish this horrible existence. The mindset of the third or fourth generation welfare mom is so foreign to me I can't begin to describe it.
How did you react (internally or externally)? Were you more sympathetic or more angry that they put up with that bullcrap?
[quote=marleyisalegend;1654404]How did you react (internally or externally)? Were you more sympathetic or more angry that they put up with that bullcrap?[/quote] To be honest, until it happend to me I think I was angry that they would be so stupid as to put up with that bull crap; and not at all sympathetic to their plight.
Yes, it's true. I was involved in a serious relationship for 12 years. I have no idea when or how he went from adoring me to being verbally, mentally, and emotionally abusive. To say that I have been very cautious with who I give my heart to since then would be the understatement of the century. :redface:
I'm getting off topic. If you have a friend male or female who is in an abusive relationship, I'm sorry. Different people have different breaking points. You telling them to get out is not going to make them see the light. I do know that I was extremely grateful when that relationship did end that my friends who had warned me were still there for me. :redface:
Yes, it's true. I was involved in a serious relationship for 12 years. I have no idea when or how he went from adoring me to being verbally, mentally, and emotionally abusive. To say that I have been very cautious with who I give my heart to since then would be the understatement of the century. :redface:
I'm getting off topic. If you have a friend male or female who is in an abusive relationship, I'm sorry. Different people have different breaking points. You telling them to get out is not going to make them see the light. I do know that I was extremely grateful when that relationship did end that my friends who had warned me were still there for me. :redface:
Actually I just ended mine. I choose to stay in spite of it the abuse, and our breakup was due to an unrelated circumstance, fortunately the abuse ended quite some time ago.
Anywho, at it's worst points, he was pullin' knives on me, pulled a gun on me, and in retrospect it's easy to go "that's when I should've left" but hey, people, go figure.
I'm over all that stuff, I've forgiven him and myself for puttin' up with it, I just wanted to hear ur thoughts cuz a lot of people are judgmental about things like that, thanks for sharing about ur abusive past though, it means a lot.
Anywho, at it's worst points, he was pullin' knives on me, pulled a gun on me, and in retrospect it's easy to go "that's when I should've left" but hey, people, go figure.
I'm over all that stuff, I've forgiven him and myself for puttin' up with it, I just wanted to hear ur thoughts cuz a lot of people are judgmental about things like that, thanks for sharing about ur abusive past though, it means a lot.
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