Ask a Black Girl Anything . . .

[Principessa]

*BUMP*

Now that the delicious sangria I made is wearing off I can probably answer a few more questions. :biggrin1:​

 

[B_VinylBoy]

What was in that sangria?
And, is there any limit to your fabulousness? :biggrin:

 

[Principessa]

What was in that sangria?

Last Saturday I cut up 2 navel oranges and 2 red delicious apples. I put them in a large plastic container and poured about half a bottle of Arbor Mist Sangria Zinfandel over it. I then put lid on container and placed in extra fridge in garage. Saturday I put spooned some of the fruit into a pretty 2 quart glass pitcher and covered with the rest of the sangria. I then added 1/2 cup sugar, 1/4 cup lemon juice, 1 can of Sprite, and filled the rest of the pitcher with Arbor Mist Tropical Fruit Chardonnay. We went through 4 bottles of Arbor Mist Sangria Christmas day.

I feel I need to explain that while not a wine connoisseur, I do know a little bit about good wine; and I know that Arbor Mist is not it. My mom is the fan of Arbor Mist. I usually refer to it as, "that fake wine mom likes." :tongue: Also, I hate red delicious apples which is why I decided they should be soaked in alcohol. :biggrin1:

And, is there any limit to your fabulousness? :biggrin:

No, there is not. :wink::biggrin1:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

The sangria sounds quite fab. I might have to try doing something like that in the future. As for your fabulousness? Well, I already knew the answer to that, but it's good to have verification once in a while. *HUG*

 

[Catchoftheday]

Hello black girl, are you looking forward to next year?

 

[crossy]

"why are black people so good at everything?"

Duke Ellington
"Fats" Waller
Sammy Davis Jr. - arguably the worlds greatest entertainer
Louis Armstrong
1000 more....

"we just stand out more when we succeed because our skintone makes us more noticeable."
Actually it is because G-d gave these precious folks an awesome talent.

 

[Principessa]

Hello black girl, are you looking forward to next year?

YES! I can't wait for 2009 to begin. I am hoping and praying it is lightyears better than 2008 which just sucked royally.

"why are black people so good at everything?"

Duke Ellington
"Fats" Waller
Sammy Davis Jr. - arguably the worlds greatest entertainer
Louis Armstrong
1000 more....

"we just stand out more when we succeed because our skintone makes us more noticeable."
​

Actually it is because G-d gave these precious folks an awesome talent.

So you don't actually have a question, you just wanted to repeat one of my previous responses . . .

 

[Hotrocker]

No. uke: My mom does though, she's from Philly. I thought scrapple was Amish or Pennsylvania Dutch in origin? As a Jersey Girl I tend more towards the classic 'pork roll, egg, and cheese on a kaiser roll.'

Philadelphia Scrapple

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• 2 pounds pork shoulder (or pork butt)
• 1 whole fresh pork hock
• 2 cups yellow cornmeal
• 1 teaspoon cayenne
• 1 teaspoon sage
• 1 tablespoon salt
• 1 teaspoon white pepper
• 2 teaspoons black pepper

Cut up pork shoulder (butt) into 2 inch chunks. Place the pork chunks, pork hock, sage and cayenne in a stock pot and cover with water. Simmer for about 2 to 3 hours or until meat falls apart. Drain and reserve stock.
Pull meat from bone and chop all the meat with a knife or food processor, being careful not to grind it too fine. Set aside.

Measure 5 cups of stock and return to pot. Bring it to a simmer; add meat, cornmeal, salt and peppers, and stir constantly until thick and smooth, about 15 to 30 minutes.

Pour mixture into 2 loaf pans and refrigerate until completely chilled. Un-mold scrapple. Slice and fry until golden brown and crisp on both sides.

Makes 12 servings.

Nutritional information per serving: 265 calories; 14 g fat; 15 g protein; 18 g carbohydrates; 54 mg cholesterol; 583 mg sodium.

(Recipe courtesy Bette's Oceanview Diner.)

Wow, NJQT: I get up this morning hungry as hell and the first thing I make is a pork roll, egg and cheese on an english muffin. I mused to a friend while making it that it was arguably "the best food on the face of the planet." Since you can only get Taylor's pork roll in either the 8 or 4- slice packs here in bumfuck GA, I had to pick up 2 logs of it when I went to Jersey last. Northern American States' cuisine > any other cuisine.

 

[MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK]

do you have a favorite book you read every now and then?

 

[pornographicpoet]

Black girl, I was always curious why it seems like Black people prefer mentholated cigarettes. I know it's a common stereotype, but in my life it seems to be true, as four out of the five Black people I know that smoke cigarettes smoke menthols exclusively.

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

Black Girl....

Besides menthol cigarettes, I have another query regarding black stereotypes.

A co-worker of mine (an older white lady from Texas) told us a story of how her car broke down at night while driving through Watts ("I must've been the only white person in a thousand miles!" is how she put it).

She hesitantly got out of her car - this is a notorious ghetto - and the particular intersection she was stuck at had fried chicken places on three of the four corners: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Church's Fried Chicken and Popeye's.

What is it with black people and fried chicken? Why is the percentage of black people in an average Popeye's Chicken always much greater than their percentages in real life (12%)?

After a quick scan on the web, here are some items on the Popeye's fast-food menu:

Chicken combo meals (of course)

Catfish Deluxe Sandwich

"popcorn" shrimp

homemade buttermilk biscuits


Church's Chicken has these sides: cajun rice, collard greens, okra, mashed potatoes & gravy, mac 'n cheese, honey buttered biscuits.


A "value meal" of three pieces of crunchy chicken and cajun french fries and hot buttermilk biscuits all sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen.

Also, one last: The Popeye's Menu indicates that Popeye's Fried Chicken is "blacker" than Church's or KFC (the Popeye's menu features 2 types of catfish sandwich, "mississippi mud cake", "Mardi Gras cheesecake", as well a full panoply of artery-clogging sides). Is Popeye's blacker than Church's - and Church's blacker than KFC? Is there a pecking order in the black community? Would college-educated Black Girl ever feel self-conscious eating popcorn chicken and buttermilk biscuits in a largely empty Popeye's restaurant in a white part of town?

 

[Principessa]

Wow, NJQT: I get up this morning hungry as hell and the first thing I make is a pork roll, egg and cheese on an english muffin. I mused to a friend while making it that it was arguably "the best food on the face of the planet." Since you can only get Taylor's pork roll in either the 8 or 4- slice packs here in bumfuck GA, I had to pick up 2 logs of it when I went to Jersey last.

Northern American States' cuisine > any other cuisine.

I agree 110%.

do you have a favorite book you read every now and then?

Yes I do, but you'll laugh when you hear what they are. Mrs. Mike, I first read it in like 6th or 7th grade and for some reason just fell in love with the characters. The other is God on a Harley. It's a sort of spiritual, self-help, romance novel that always helps to get me back on track. Hmmm, I think I could stand to read it again.

Black girl, I was always curious why it seems like Black people prefer mentholated cigarettes. I know it's a common stereotype, but in my life it seems to be true, as four out of the five Black people I know that smoke cigarettes smoke menthols exclusively.

I've often wondered that myself but since I am not a smoker I have no clue.

 

[pornographicpoet]

Black Girl,

I'm reading Bliss Broyard's book "One Drop" and it led me to think to ask you the following question. Do you view people who have legitimate Black ancestry but look for all intents and purposes like white people as Black?

 

[Principessa]

Black Girl,

I'm reading Bliss Broyard's book "One Drop" and it led me to think to ask you the following question.
Do you view people who have legitimate Black ancestry but look for all intents and purposes like white people as Black?

I'm sorry but I don't understand the question. I think you may have left out a few words.

Black Girl....

Besides menthol cigarettes, I have another query regarding black stereotypes.

A co-worker of mine (an older white lady from Texas) told us a story of how her car broke down at night while driving through Watts ("I must've been the only white person in a thousand miles!" is how she put it).

She hesitantly got out of her car - this is a notorious ghetto - and the particular intersection she was stuck at had fried chicken places on three of the four corners: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Church's Fried Chicken and Popeye's.

What is it with black people and fried chicken?

Chicken is cheap and for many years even educated blacks were only able to obtain low paying jobs. It's a quick easy way to feed a family.

Why is the percentage of black people in an average Popeye's Chicken always much greater than their percentages in real life (12%)?

Probably because black people can be found everywhere . . . even in Minnesota. :tongue: However, Popeye's tend to be in urban or black neighborhoods. Therefore yu will see more black people in a Popeye's than the world at large.


After a quick scan on the web, here are some items on the Popeye's fast-food menu:

Chicken combo meals (of course)

Catfish Deluxe Sandwich

"popcorn" shrimp

homemade buttermilk biscuits


Church's Chicken has these sides: cajun rice, collard greens, okra, mashed potatoes & gravy, mac 'n cheese, honey buttered biscuits.


A "value meal" of three pieces of crunchy chicken and cajun french fries and hot buttermilk biscuits all sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen.

Also, one last: The Popeye's Menu indicates that Popeye's Fried Chicken is "blacker" than Church's or KFC (the Popeye's menu features 2 types of catfish sandwich, "mississippi mud cake", "Mardi Gras cheesecake", as well a full panoply of artery-clogging sides). Is Popeye's blacker than Church's - and Church's blacker than KFC? Is there a pecking order in the black community? Would college-educated Black Girl ever feel self-conscious eating popcorn chicken and buttermilk biscuits in a largely empty Popeye's restaurant in a white part of town?

This is the weirdest question I can't tell if you are serious, joking, or phenomenally naive.

I have no idea what is meant by blacker chicken. I'm not a 'home girl' I don't speak ebonics and I would be as uncomfortable as you, if not more so if my car broke down it Watts or Cabrini Green.

I have never seen a Popeye's in a white section of a town. However since I get along pretty well in the white world I don't see a problem.

 

[pornographicpoet]

Ah, let me rephrase the question then.

I'm reading this book One Drop (the title in reference to the One Drop rule indicating that one known Black ancestor/ress meant someone is Black under Jim Crow) by Bliss Broyard.

It brought to mind that some people who are biracial (white and Black ancestry) look like white people. There is nothing in their appearance that would indicate that they are of Black ancestry.

Do you view people who are 1/4th or some other fraction Black, yet who look white, as Black people? Or do you view them as white, because they look white, and are unlikely to face the same daily racism that Black people face?

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

Black Girl,

I was only goofing.

I like goofing with you, as you are one of the easiest-going, au currant, sassy, quick-witted, dishy posters on this site.


Oh. Here is old ebonics, with June Cleaver speaking jive in "Airplane!" (Oh, stewardess, I speak jive"):

YouTube - Airplane! - "Oh stewardess, I speak jive"

 

[naughty]

Black Girl,

I'm reading Bliss Broyard's book "One Drop" and it led me to think to ask you the following question. Do you view people who have legitimate Black ancestry but look for all intents and purposes like white people as Black?

Speaking as a light skinned black woman and not the lightest of those on this board there are a number of LPSG members who classify themselves as black who may not appear so immediately. Cigar Babe is a perfect example. "Blackness" Is a cultural construct that initially was created as a tool of power and control by a system of racism that though is alive and doing well today we are finally seeing some major movement. I think this is why there is such a controversy within the black community over the term bi-racial (which at best is a misnomer as are many descriptions of people of color) for generations there have been mixed race children for whom there was no choice as to racial designation. In reality as we have mentioned many times here MOST Americans of African descent are to some degree of mixed race whether they look as most would assume there are to look or not.

 

[naughty]

Black Girl....

Besides menthol cigarettes, I have another query regarding black stereotypes.

A co-worker of mine (an older white lady from Texas) told us a story of how her car broke down at night while driving through Watts ("I must've been the only white person in a thousand miles!" is how she put it).

She hesitantly got out of her car - this is a notorious ghetto - and the particular intersection she was stuck at had fried chicken places on three of the four corners: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Church's Fried Chicken and Popeye's.

What is it with black people and fried chicken? Why is the percentage of black people in an average Popeye's Chicken always much greater than their percentages in real life (12%)?

After a quick scan on the web, here are some items on the Popeye's fast-food menu:

Chicken combo meals (of course)

Catfish Deluxe Sandwich

"popcorn" shrimp

homemade buttermilk biscuits


Church's Chicken has these sides: cajun rice, collard greens, okra, mashed potatoes & gravy, mac 'n cheese, honey buttered biscuits.


A "value meal" of three pieces of crunchy chicken and cajun french fries and hot buttermilk biscuits all sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen.

Also, one last: The Popeye's Menu indicates that Popeye's Fried Chicken is "blacker" than Church's or KFC (the Popeye's menu features 2 types of catfish sandwich, "mississippi mud cake", "Mardi Gras cheesecake", as well a full panoply of artery-clogging sides). Is Popeye's blacker than Church's - and Church's blacker than KFC? Is there a pecking order in the black community? Would college-educated Black Girl ever feel self-conscious eating popcorn chicken and buttermilk biscuits in a largely empty Popeye's restaurant in a white part of town?

Willtom,

What you are looking are regional interpretations of southern cooking. There are many white southerners who eat these same foods. KFC started by Colonel Harland Sanders in Kentucky is one interpretation of southern fried chicken. It has since been mainstreamed. Popeyes is the lower level brain child of the New Orleans Copeland family which owns Copelands as well. IT is merely their fast food version of traditional New Orleans cuisine which is eaten by Black and whites both.....
If you recall, much of this came about because black slaves were the cooks in the kitchen of southern plantations and many of these dishes were an emalgumation of African, French, Spanish, Celtic dishes created with new world ingredients. So it probably should be better known as Southern Cuisine. Now there are certain African food stuffs that curiously African Americans tend to favor as comfort foods in certain areas but I think the Africaness of these foods have long ago been superimposed by the Southerness of them. They are foods such as Black Eyed peas, sweet potatoes, short grained white rice, okra, peanuts. You mentioned a number of them earlier in your post.

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

Naughty:

I find it wild that anyone, anywhere could possibly order a "catfish sandwich" at a fast-food joint. Totally surreal to me.

I must be the most un-southern poster (temperamentally) on this site. Catfish and okra and black-eyed peas and collard greens literally make my skin crawl (I am shuddering just typing this!). Maybe it's because I've never had much exposure to that kind of cuisine.

But I just realized I've been stereotyping. Being born and raised in California, I have always thought of black-eyed peas and sweet potatoes and collard greens and homemade biscuits as "black food" (soul food), when in fact, they're just plain old southern cooking.


Here's something interesting I found on wikipedia:

"As slaves, African Americans would "make do" with the ingredients at hand. The fresh vegetables found in Africa were replaced by the throwaway foods from the plantation house. Their vegetables were the tops of turnips and beets and dandelions. Soon they were cooking with new types of greens: collards, kale, cress, mustard, and pokeweed. African American slaves also developed recipes which used discarded meat from the plantation, such as pigs' feet, beef tongue or tail, ham hocks, chitterlings (pig small intestines), pig ears, hog jowls, tripe and skin. Cooks added onions, garlic, thyme, and bay leaf to enhance the flavors. Many African Americans depended on catching their own meat, and wild game such as raccoon, opossum, turtle, and rabbit was, until the 1950s, very popular fare on the African American table.

There was little waste in the traditional African American kitchen. Leftover fish became croquettes (by adding an egg, cornmeal or flour, seasonings which were breaded and deep-fried). Stale bread became bread pudding, and each part of the pig had its own special dish. Even the liquid from cooked greens, called potlikker, was consumed as a type of gravy, or drink."
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You get the feeling that nothing (for economic reasons), no part of the pig or cow or chicken was wasted or discarded. It ALL ended up, in some form, on the dinner table!

 

[naughty]

Naughty:

I find it wild that anyone, anywhere could possibly order a "catfish sandwich" at a fast-food joint. Totally surreal to me.

I must be the most un-southern poster (temperamentally) on this site. Catfish and okra and black-eyed peas and collard greens literally make my skin crawl (I am shuddering just typing this!). Maybe it's because I've never had much exposure to that kind of cuisine.

But I just realized I've been stereotyping. Being born and raised in California, I have always thought of black-eyed peas and sweet potatoes and collard greens and homemade biscuits as "black food" (soul food), when in fact, they're just plain old southern cooking.


Here's something interesting I found on wikipedia:

"As slaves, African Americans would "make do" with the ingredients at hand. The fresh vegetables found in Africa were replaced by the throwaway foods from the plantation house. Their vegetables were the tops of turnips and beets and dandelions. Soon they were cooking with new types of greens: collards, kale, cress, mustard, and pokeweed. African American slaves also developed recipes which used discarded meat from the plantation, such as pigs' feet, beef tongue or tail, ham hocks, chitterlings (pig small intestines), pig ears, hog jowls, tripe and skin. Cooks added onions, garlic, thyme, and bay leaf to enhance the flavors. Many African Americans depended on catching their own meat, and wild game such as raccoon, opossum, turtle, and rabbit was, until the 1950s, very popular fare on the African American table.

There was little waste in the traditional African American kitchen. Leftover fish became croquettes (by adding an egg, cornmeal or flour, seasonings which were breaded and deep-fried). Stale bread became bread pudding, and each part of the pig had its own special dish. Even the liquid from cooked greens, called potlikker, was consumed as a type of gravy, or drink."
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You get the feeling that nothing (for economic reasons), no part of the pig or cow or chicken was wasted or discarded. It ALL ended up, in some form, on the dinner table!

Willtom,

I tend to find that anyone who says they hate certain southern dishes usually have not had them or have had bad representations . I actually think that each culture has saving recipes. Look at the midwestern hot dish or the casserole phenom that became so prevalent in 50's era cookbooks. It is unfortunate that the good cheap eating of the past however has been capitalized upon by companies who in most cases dont get them right. There are still places that do things well. Popeyes has tasty red beans and rice and churches makes some mean fried okra. Unfortunately many of these foods are not low calorie or without the hazard of sending ones blood pressure or cholesterol count through the roof. Much of this food though assigned to race is really regional and socioeconomic. When one cant eat high on the hog (Shoulder ,etc) one eats what is left . :biggrin1: