At the gym

[jonb]

Yeah, there are things a lot more perverted than that. If I hear something like that, I might reply "Oh yeah? Well, some of us don't chop half our sons' penises off!"

 

[Freddie53]

The father needsto be reported to the health club for his remarks. What he did was way out of line. It was verbal assault, which in some states could be considered illegal. I agree that he may have been the the "born again" christian group. You will notice I didn't capitalize christian there. More than likely, he is a member of the RED NECK OF AMERICA CLUB. Either way he is a jack ass.

Kids are exposed to everything in America these days. A prudent parent will explain in privacy their views on every thing that the child sees.

I also did that with my sons. I never expressed any negative comment on what my boys saw in the presence of the persons doing it. I waited untiil later.

As far as having a body peircing in the penis. No way for me. I just am not interested. But my wife "loves pierced ear rings" and she has gotten them from me for special occassions. I presently don't have piereced ears and may never have them. Wearing jewelry is a personal choice. I don't see how it is any different explaining to a seven year old boy having a peirced ear ring or a piered dick riing. A seven year old is not doing to think anything different about either unless of course he is taught something different.

The jack ass probably knows you are gay and this was his, in his mind, opportunity to verbally assault you with is moral opinion. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. Not at a public facility.

One thing is for sure. There have always been jackasses in the world and apparently there always will be.

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Apr 10 2005, 06:58 PM
This "situation" if you will, happened this afternoon at my health club. A fairly nice facility, with male only areas. As I was coming out of the shower in the locker room, I had to pass by the other side of the bench where a young (6-7 yo) boy and his father were changing for their workout, swim, whatever. The little boy, in all the innocence of youth pointed at my penis and said in his normal, loud little voice, "Look Daddy that man has a big earring in his pee thing." Dad looked at me, and physically turned his son away and said, "Some men are sick and do terrible things and we shouldn't look at them." I stopped dead in my tracks, looking at the back of the mans head, trying to decide what to do. The gentlemen in me took control and I dressed to head home. As I was packing my gym bag, the father came over, leaned down and said, "I don't care what kind of sick perversions you practice in your life, but you should be stopped from exposing our young children to this kind of thing." Sheesh, and all I wanted was a good workout and a swim. Guess he told me! The one I feel sorry for is the the little guy who's head is being filled full of crappola.

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[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

"Thank you for the concern you've shown for what I choose to do to my body. Allow me to return the favour by offering you some aloe vera gel; you're neck is looking awfully red."

 

[Altairion]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Apr 11 2005, 08:29 PM
"Thank you for the concern you've shown for what I choose to do to my body. Allow me to return the favour by offering you some aloe vera gel; you're neck is looking awfully red."

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haha, that is the perfect reply right there!

*Prints it off and frames it

 

[chris88]

No matter how strong his convictions about that might be, I don't see why he would teach his son proper morals by exposing him to being a total asshole.

 

[KinkGuy]

Thanks to all of you for the support and kind words. I spent most of today feeling really wimpy. The big-tough-guy side of me tormented me some today for not at the very least verbally creaming the guy OR letting DOD (I like that&#33 have it with a good right cross. But, I guess, in my heart of hearts, I just could not lower myself to his level and further impress on that little guy that hateful and ugly behavior is ok. I do wish though, I could explain to the kid (and his asshole of a father) WHY I didn't think it was ok to deck DOD.

 

[prepstudinsc]

The thing about it is that piercings are basically mainstream these days. It's not like it's a subculture thing, businessmen have them under their suits, so the father was way out of line for saying anything to you about it. I'd report him to the gym manager for harassment. You did the right thing by not saying or doing anything, because he sounds like the type that would slap a lawsuit on you in a heartbeat.

 

[bigtwin]

I join in the applause for your restraint Kinkguy. I'm betting its the type of encounter that left you speechless but now you're making a long list of potential replies should that type of think ever happen again; verbal replies not the physical kind.
I wonder if there is any complaining to do that it should be to the management of the health club. Are adult health clubs really appropriate for children? I've never considered bringing my kids to the gym with me. First, there is the distraction. You know kids - more time babysitting than working out. And more importantly, I simply see them as adult environments. I don't mean there is anything unseemly going on...just that its a place for adults. The proper inclusive exercise facility for children and their parents is a YMCA or boy's club type environment, in my opinion. That where I take my boys and daughter.

One last thing. Kids say all kinds of things...they're curious critters with no inhibitions. My kids are certainly no exception to the rule. As a parent, I've been caught off guard when my kid says something inappropriate about another person, especially a stranger. Sometimes I find myself going ummm, ummm thinking of the right thing to say and in answering hastily it doesn't always come out the way I would want if I had the time to give it some thought. I can assure you, its never proper to do what that guy did to you....but I'm sure you know there are lots of morons in this world and you found the mother of them all!

 

[DadsAreUs]

I will join in and applaud your restraint on behalf of the child. I don't know if I could have done it. I more likely than not would have lost my shit. The irony of the story is, of course, that when this kid is old enough for some adolescent rebelliion his most likely outlet will probably be a prince albert.

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by mistergrasso@Apr 12 2005, 08:47 AM
I will join in and applaud your restraint on behalf of the child. I don't know if I could have done it. I more likely than not would have lost my shit. The irony of the story is, of course, that when this kid is old enough for some adolescent rebelliion his most likely outlet will probably be a prince albert.

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Adlolescent rebellion and it continues into adulthood. And it is also called finding your own idenity. If a haircut, certain jewelry or whatever gives an adolescent or a young adult identity then why not. We older crowd do it do. Ladies dye their hair, guys wear rings in the ears and we pick certain kinds of clothing that is "us", And I am talking about the over 50 year old crowd here.

We all need to establish our identity. The rules that I suggest for this are:

1. Is what you are going to do permanent. Can it be undone. If not think on it a long while before doing. Research the procedure well. Like tattos etc.
2. Will it significantly interfere with your goals and dreams in the future. If so, maybe you shouldn't do it. If not and especially if it is not permanent, then go do it.
3. As you age your dreams, employment, spouse, etc. have affect on what you need as identity. Make those changes appropriately.

4. Private things that you need are no one else's business except maybe a spouse and the price of what it is that takes money away from your children or some very important need.

Example: rings in the penis. Now just who gives a rat's ass about that. What employeer is going to ask you to pull your pants down to see if you have one.

If you have a job where medal can't be worn at all, that is different. Wear it away from work. There are some chemical, exray an such jobs where they suggest wearing as little medal as possible including the fly zipper. I am not an authority on that at all and I just quoting what I have always been told.

 

[Bananaman]

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Apr 11 2005, 07:54 PM
Thanks to all of you for the support and kind words. I spent most of today feeling really wimpy. The big-tough-guy side of me tormented me some today for not at the very least verbally creaming the guy OR letting DOD (I like that&#33 have it with a good right cross. But, I guess, in my heart of hearts, I just could not lower myself to his level and further impress on that little guy that hateful and ugly behavior is ok. I do wish though, I could explain to the kid (and his asshole of a father) WHY I didn't think it was ok to deck DOD.

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KinkGuy, you shouldn't feel the least bit wimpy. You were the stronger one, you were the one who behaved with maturity, you were the one with self-control, in short, you were the real man there, not that red-neck piece of crap. He didn't even have the self-control to keep his pie hole shut. (Typical of the breed, unfortunately&#33

As far as trying to explain anything to him, you'd be wasting your breath. There may be hope for the poor kid, but his idiot father is a lost cause. In my experience, rednecks, fundamentalists and their ilk tend to be arrogant, narrow-minded, self righteous jerks who aren't worth your time.

Having said all that, I gotta admit I do understand the urge to clobber the fool!

Allow me to add a big "Well Done", along with my respect.

B-man

 

[headbang8]

You did the right thing, kink. Where would it have got you to make a scene? Oscar Wilde: "The best revenge is living well." Especially if it's with a ring in your dick.

Take care of yourself.

hb8

 

[13788]

learningirl: :grr: I feel for you, Kinkguy!! I am struggling daily with my disappearing faith in the goodness of humankind as a whole... not to MENTION this country right now...

2 POINTS that I think are KEY:

1) IF you HAD reacted in a way that was defensive and / or violent, THEN this child would have left BELIEVING what his father had said, since it would appear to him that yes indeed, his dad was right, that was a mean man... and therefore you might have helped to create another generation's biggot.

This way, the kid is more irked at his father, and curious but probably not turned against "YOUR KIND" or whatever his demented father would say. SO you actually did a GOOD thing, making "your kind" look good! And I can bet that the father was more thrown by your strength in refusing to respond than he would have been if you'd "taken the bait."

2) My second point comes from something I just learned about people who have been a major part of my life, and I'm still in shock about it -- but I FIRMLY believe that the more homophobic, or dickringphobic or whatever is the correct term is -- the more EXTREME the preaching gets, the more it is intended to compensate for something that is potentially a lifetime of torment for them -- their hidden true sexuality, desires, curiosties... I think his behavior suggests mainly what I suspect is a raging urge to be like you. Of course, he cannot face it because he believes so strongly in whatever right-wing interpretation of the bible he was fed when he was a child.

Suffice it to say, and I have observed this... you'll be much happier in life, and that father's got a narsty road in front of him -- of fear, anger, shame, depression, the works.

So please don't feel bad about this encounter... if anything, you might have SAVED that kid from becoming a right-wing psychopath. The father ... he's got a LOT to deal with; best steer clear; sadly, I think even musicians' ears become closed at a certain point in the process, and we wouldn't be able to fix it/discuss

 

[B_HungSpermBoy]

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Apr 10 2005, 06:58 PM
This "situation" if you will, happened this afternoon at my health club. A fairly nice facility, with male only areas. As I was coming out of the shower in the locker room, I had to pass by the other side of the bench where a young (6-7 yo) boy and his father were changing for their workout, swim, whatever. The little boy, in all the innocence of youth pointed at my penis and said in his normal, loud little voice, "Look Daddy that man has a big earring in his pee thing." Dad looked at me, and physically turned his son away and said, "Some men are sick and do terrible things and we shouldn't look at them." I stopped dead in my tracks, looking at the back of the mans head, trying to decide what to do. The gentlemen in me took control and I dressed to head home. As I was packing my gym bag, the father came over, leaned down and said, "I don't care what kind of sick perversions you practice in your life, but you should be stopped from exposing our young children to this kind of thing." Sheesh, and all I wanted was a good workout and a swim. Guess he told me! The one I feel sorry for is the the little guy who's head is being filled full of crappola.

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Hey Kink, maybe you could have whispered in the dad's ear something like this, "Get a life,asshole." Just my opinion. :evilgrin:

 

[jasonpurdy]

I am with Dr. Rock on this one....shitting teeth for a week would really have not been the BEST way to go but it would have felt the best at the time....

 

[SpeedoGuy]

Kudos to KinkGuy for a classy response during his encounter with a real fucktard in the lockerroom. Well done, man.

SG

 

[husky14620]

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Apr 10 2005, 07:58 PM
This "situation" if you will, happened this afternoon at my health club. A fairly nice facility, with male only areas. As I was coming out of the shower in the locker room, I had to pass by the other side of the bench where a young (6-7 yo) boy and his father were changing for their workout, swim, whatever. The little boy, in all the innocence of youth pointed at my penis and said in his normal, loud little voice, "Look Daddy that man has a big earring in his pee thing." Dad looked at me, and physically turned his son away and said, "Some men are sick and do terrible things and we shouldn't look at them." I stopped dead in my tracks, looking at the back of the mans head, trying to decide what to do. The gentlemen in me took control and I dressed to head home. As I was packing my gym bag, the father came over, leaned down and said, "I don't care what kind of sick perversions you practice in your life, but you should be stopped from exposing our young children to this kind of thing." Sheesh, and all I wanted was a good workout and a swim. Guess he told me! The one I feel sorry for is the the little guy who's head is being filled full of crappola.

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You did the right thing when you walked away, after the first remark. After the second remark, I believe I would have said something along the lines of "I am so sorry that you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. If you find male nudity offensive, then you should go join the gym at the YWCA, or stay out of the male only areas. Obviously you haven't enough intelligence to drop the subject after I walked away, and now your son can see that you are an ignorant and uninformed bigot. It's too bad he doesn't have a real male role model."

BTW, I personally find the piercing thing both horrifying and tantalising. But I do feel sorry for the son, as he is being fed a lot of horse crap.

M

 

[txquis]

How do i miss these threads?

First off, you did the right thing by not making a scene.

Secondly, I *too* feel sorry for that little boy, having a dad who would
make unkind comments about someone's body.....not only in front of the person he dislikes, but his young child.

"if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all".

But, that good old bit of advice is out of fashion now, i'm afraid.

 

[Photonpig]

Seriously, you should have put a towel around your waist to cover up your penis. Its perfectly fine to be nude if your genitals aren't butchered with peircings. I commend the father for telling his child that what other people do is not only wrong but immoral, and also for standing up for the values that civilized people care about. Clearly you can live your life the way you want, but don't be surprised when people actually object. Children will be children, and stupid adults will be ignorant about showing off their screwed up lifestyles in front of children.

 

[KinkGuy]

Your post, Photonpig, doesn't even justify discussion.