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Of course why isn't anyone mentioning the fact that this guy is mentally ill? All I see here is everyone assuming he's a misogynist or anti Asian or a woman hater. Maybe he is those things. Maybe not. This is like saying that all men are rapists because they have a penis. Does that in turn make all women prostitutes because they have a vagina?

Because his mental issues did not preclude him from "legally" purchasing a weapon and conducting a premeditated homicide.

The little motherfucker was quick to say after he was caught "Oh no mister officer, it was not racially motivated. I have a sex addiction"

I bet if there was a law on the books to cut off his cock for sex crimes, he would have said "yes definitely race related officer"

Wake up and stop making excuses for this shit.
 

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This is all we know.

Everything else is speculation.


So everything else I stated was speculation? There really was a female that killed 8 people with a hammer; vice a 21 year old white male who confessed to shooting 8 people with a firearm?


The analogy I used was to draw attention to people taking a position exactly like you did that make the "not our fault", "nothing to see here" or "let’s not jump to conclusions" bullshit arguments. So by the numbers:


FACT 1: 21 year old WHITE MALE (not a female)


FACT 2: Killed 8 people, that were predominantly Asian women at an establishment that typically employs Asian women (not 8 random people)


FACT 3: The weapon he used was a firearm (not a hammer)


Based on news reporting and police statements I would say that all of the above are fact; unless of course it doesn't support your "not a hate crime" narrative which may be the premise of your bullshit that you are trying to shore up for you future argument about the victims being at fault or some other nonsense (that part is me speculating on your motive).

Wait maybe the killer was possessed by Elvis. (that's me making shit up)

You're either delusional or a bold face liar trying to defend the position that this shitbag is some type of a victim (that is my analysis).


Here this is an example of speculation on my part:

You view everything through a pure political agenda optic and state your opinions based on Fox talking points. You also have a history of only posting to comments that have a politically right slant or the pro-nothing to be seen here argument; be it size queens or whatever.


Here is an example on me speculating why you are here shitting on this subject and giving this twat waffle a pass:

You're a fairly comfortable guy that lives well, whose tax bracket may be in jeopardy or perceived as such based on progressive attitudes that also feels like he has been given a bad rap by society and fucked by life in general. You also seem to have issues with women based on your previous postings, which seem to scream I am a guy that is getting fucked by society and should be treated like the superior being I am.

You actually thought you should get pussy 2000 times over a 40 year marriage in one of your more stellar quotes from your 500 plus postings. Just out of curiosity can I count or credit blowjobs in that metric? Stay with me because I am connecting some dots for you.


Here is some further "speculating" by me based on your over 500 posts as well as my own of being an "older than I would like to be at this point" white male and raising four +/- kids with two Asian women that are mixed ethnicity the oldest of which is probably close to your age and occasionally equally ate up with the dumb ass:

You are either Asian or half Asian which probably gives you some additional issues based on your comment about Asian mothers, and a few of your other offerings; you also have some highly misogynistic opinions, your insecure about the size of your dick, and you may or may not have the unfortunate but fairly common Asian cultural pecking order and hierarchical approach to humanity and relationships (i.e. this ethnic group is more superior than that group, I am older than you so you have to listen to me, etc.).


All of my ranting and shit aside up to this point and assuming based on your own postings that you are at least half Asian you better wake the fuck up because you or your loved ones could be the next victim of some bullshit like this so I recommend you SHOULD condemn it and don't defend it because of your personal issues be they penis or monetary.


Crazy racially motivated fucks don't care about your life story or whether they are or were an "incel" like you when they are randomly fucking beating or shooting people that "look Asian".

Now do you see the difference between "Fact", "Speculation" and my humble fucking opinion Mister Software Engineer?

I know I may have indiscriminately threw in a few fucks here and there but please don't take it personally; however I take people killing innocent people a little personally it's one my many faults.
 

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After reading about this horrible event in many sources & having to go thru many, many hours of legal coursework dealing with hate crimes and criminal psychology...
I'll be very clear here and say that I, in no way, am defending his actions at any level.
To start, you don't need race to be an issue to go after a hate crime conviction. Crimes against other groups qualify as well. This incident is most likely a hate crime against women. No question.
Does he have mental problems? Probably. Doesn't excuse what he did. But, it's a conversation that should be brought up at some point, to try and identify/help/lock up people who need it.
Was it racist? Is he racist?
I don't know if he is a racist. Nothing in his past has been dug up to identify him as such. He gave his reason for doing what he did. He frequented these places he shot up. He went there for sexual activity. He felt it was wrong & blamed the women for being a temptation. So, he decided to get rid of the temptation by killing them.
Screwed up thinking? Oh hell yes. But, still not racist at this point. And he knows he's going to get strapped down to a gurney and have a needle full of potassium chloride shot into him. No real motivation to lie.
The massage parlors throughout the country are asian owned/operated by a very large margin. As I live in the Atlanta area, I can tell you that you won't find black owned/white owned/hispanic owned parlors very easily. The Asian ones are abundant.
So, he didn't necessarily avoid places owned by one group to get to the Asian owned ones.
Not all the people he killed were asian.
"Guilt by association" in his mind? Maybe. Haven't seen/read anything to support that.
As stated earlier, he frequented these businesses. He was familiar with them.
Finally, an attack on a person or group with a different ethnicity doesn't automatically mean the attacker was racially motivated, unless there's something in his history or mindset to support the theory.
What that piece of legal explanation means... It would be like saying border patrol agents in southern california are all racist, because they mostly arrest mexicans. No.... The place they try to secure happens to be where there are a lot of mexicans breaking the law.

All the rest of the dirt people are throwing at the wall to see if it sticks...
The mental illness issue.
The human trafficking issue.
The sex trade issue.
The religious zealot issue.
The gun control issue.

They are all valid & should be addressed in their own forum.
But, none of it is of value when the discussion is about determining racism or lack thereof here.

Like I said, he might very well be racist.
It doesn't matter. He's going to die in a prison death chamber.
But, based on everything out there so far, an informed person can't automatically make that determination.
Who knows?... Maybe something will come out in his background or he'll spout off some racist comment .
He's a horrible person.
He's going to get charged with hate crime legislation based on his motivation to specifically kill women.
He's going to die.
Nobody can read the man's mind.
 

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I was shocked to see bowling for Columbine and still am every mass shooting that happens. I think every adminitration has blood on their hands for not doing enough to stop the madness. All of them could be different on motivations against woman or Asian on this case but if the guns were no so easily given there could be violence but not so many deaths.
Luckily for now this madman are lone wolf but if they team up could make even more harm, imagine if a few of them answered to trump on his irresponsible calling with heavy firepower.
A ex coworker of mine had the profile luckily over here is not that easy to get assault rifles but once on the office we heard him asking to get the price of a laser sighting, luckily I don’t work there anymore he could appear on the office to kill all. Those mass shootings were their hero’s and he saw their videos over and over with a metal song, I think his fantasy was to get the power of the guns to do whatever he wanted instead of dealing his problems on real life. Normal looking guy, technically intelligent but crazy when you dig in a little.
 

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I think there is uncomfortable truth in recognizing this event to have both racist and misogynist motivations, but also recognizing this would not likely have gone down amongst "white run" establishments.
I feel like the only real wrong answer in if this was more racist or sexist, is if the answer is to silence the other option specifically.
 
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Hitler Youth Haircut? Check.

NEET Neckbeard? Check.

Conservative? Check.

Wow. A Nationalist InCel with God on his side committed mass murder...and was taken in by the police without a scratch.

The attacks are not only unquestionably racist. The second elephant in the room *He's got to be GOP* is the fact that six of 8 victims were women, vulnerable women with no safety net in our society.

He'll be another Q-Anon Kyle. The Trump Cult will blow up his GoFundMe. Gun nuts will point to mental health as the real issue *while supporting cuts to healthcare and outreach.* The MRA crowd will howl about the assault on white men by cancel culture libs and feminazis. The NRA will have a membership run, they are probably putting the finishing touches on a Charlton Heston hologram/AI.

Burgerland sucks.
This has to be a joke
 

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I don't know if he is a racist...He gave his reason for doing what he did. He frequented these places he shot up. He went there for sexual activity. He felt it was wrong & blamed the women for being a temptation. So, he decided to get rid of the temptation by killing them. Screwed up thinking? Oh hell yes. ...And he knows he's going to get strapped down to a gurney and have a needle full of potassium chloride shot into him. No real motivation to lie.
He's a horrible person.
He's going to get charged with hate crime legislation based on his motivation to specifically kill women.
He's going to die.
Nobody can read the man's mind.

^^Spot the contradiction. One would indeed need to read Long's mind to find out if "he knows" he will get a lethal injection for this crime and verify the issued explanation for it - which came from a third party police spokesperson. Long getting the death penalty is unlikely as this sentence is seldom sought by prosecutors in Georgia presently and may even be abolished by the time Long is sentenced for his crime:

5 things to know: Death Row and the death penalty in Georgia
 

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^^Spot the contradiction. One would indeed need to read Long's mind to find out if "he knows" he will get a lethal injection for this crime and verify the issued explanation for it - which came from a third party police spokesperson. Long getting the death penalty is unlikely as this sentence is seldom sought by prosecutors in Georgia presently and may even be abolished by the time Long is sentenced for his crime:

5 things to know: Death Row and the death penalty in Georgia
Death penalty or life without parole... Either way, life as he knows it is over.
 

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^^Spot the contradiction. One would indeed need to read Long's mind to find out if "he knows" he will get a lethal injection for this crime and verify the issued explanation for it - which came from a third party police spokesperson. Long getting the death penalty is unlikely as this sentence is seldom sought by prosecutors in Georgia presently and may even be abolished by the time Long is sentenced for his crime:

5 things to know: Death Row and the death penalty in Georgia
Also, your source needs to do their homework."List of people executed in Georgia (U.S. state) - Wikipedia" List of people executed in Georgia (U.S. state) - Wikipedia
Two or three a year on average.
But, many more per year is in georgia's very recent history.
Prosecutor is seeking the death penalty, as well.
Just FYI
 

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This is why I have no faith in human kind. Especially the religion this fuck belongs too. So many atrocious acts committed in the name of Christ, who was supposed to be a pacifist. Violence against women pisses me off as well and hell if your addicted to sex, watch porn and rub one out.... Make all the comments about right/left there are idiots on both sides. I'm Republican and the only thing I'll use a gun for is hunting and sharp shooting. A skill I've worked years to develop and would only turn on a human if they we're trying to come at me with a gun. Otherwise , fists, knives and axes are more my style and much more intimate. And ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO COME AT ME AND MY FAMILY ANS FRIENDS. This fucker and many like him need to not be shot, they need strung up, and their guys pulled out and left to dry in the sun. Why waste tax dollars keeping them in prison so they can write insane memoirs to entice future generations of psychos. Make an example of what will happen to the next low life subhuman piece of rat shit to try something like this.

These people are wastes of human potential. I see people like this and think of all the cockroaches, slugs centipedes and other carrion crawlers that could have been made with that viable flesh. Ya know, something that would actually benefit the planet.....

I'm sorry if what I've said offends some. I make jokes about being broken inside but I'm not far off from it but have reasons. when you grow up a victim of severe abuse at the hands of a Satan worshipper. And that same fuck forces your mom into swinging for the better part of 8 of their 10 years together. Then being smaller than other kids and having to take the abuse from your "peers", you start to see people in a different light. I learned to fight back and win at an early age. Violence against women and their exploitation hits home HARD for me. My mom was a beautiful, enlightened, kind hearted and wonderful woman. She is the only reason I turned out as well as I did. I BROKE THE CHAIN. I raised 4 kids without harming them, or being inappropriate with them. If I can do this, ANYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TOO!!!!!! So this guy has no excuse for anything. Growing up in Such an open sexual environment in the 70s and 80s I learned to control inappropriate sexual urges without harming others. So anybody should b able to do it. SELF CONTROL.
 

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I know I may have indiscriminately threw in a few fucks here and there but please don't take it personally; however I take people killing innocent people a little personally it's one my many faults.

I'm not taking it personally, but damn, you really got yourself into quite a lather here eh?

So everything else I stated was speculation?

Anything related to the dudes motivation so soon after the event was speculation.

The post right after your response explained in much better detail.


Here this is an example of speculation on my part:

Wow that's quite the stream. Well, you aren't entirely right nor entirely wrong here.

Yeah, east Asian cultures have a superiority complex.

Yeah, having a mere "above average" dick is not very exciting.

Did I said I should get 2000 sessions o' sex? I thought I said that's the amount of days that could reasonably be considered opportunities for sex in 40 years of marriage?

You are first person who has ever accused me of being purely political or strictly spouting right wing fox shit. I do tend to devil's advocate here and the topics that are interesting tend to be "political" in nature...so I suppose it is not an incorrect characterization based on your perspective.

Yeah, fairly comfortable, live well, "good life". Disenchanted cause I hate what I have to do to earn income and feel like I "waste" everyday in that pursuit. I don't feel I've had a bad rap or blame society tho. I am where I am because of the choices and priorities I have made throughout life. I'm not happy about all of it, but I own that shit.

As just said, I'm not proud of being a software engineer. I think I only brought that up cause people were giving me the "you only have the intellectual capacity to make french fries and live with mom" treatment.

And no, you can't really reason with crazy people. What should I be doing about that? Tell them to not be so crazy?
 

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Let’s give the victims their humanity.
May your memory be a blessing.
Soon C. Park
Suncha Kim
Yong A Yue
Hyuan Grant
Ashley Yaun
Paul Andre Michels
Xiaojie Tan
Daoyou Feng

just because. We forget the dead by name in many trials.