Attitudes toward gays
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didn't you know? cause faggots are fuckkin sick.... sicker than niggers even..... and they all wanna fuck us strait men cause they're jealous of how much god loves us.......
honestly, the reason they hate the queens and LOOOOVE the lezzys is cause in their head, all the lezbians look like Mademoiselle Rouge and chrissymgreen and when they are having sex, if one of them had REEEEEEAAALLLY good camo jacket on, and the happened to sneak up on em in the act. they would let him JOIN IN!!!!
this is the ACTUAL reason why...... no bullshit.......
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If you wrote straight on the top of a piece of paper and gay at the bottom and connected the words with a line a guy's male sexuality would fall some where on the line between the two words. Why worry if a guy is straight or gay because all guys have this thing beween our legs that needs to be pleasured every so often to maintain our sanity. Just leave it at that.
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I used to think that christians were all different and each should be respected for their views. However since I understand now that the christian religion is based on ignorance and perpetuates that ignorance (god-made-man myth), that it is a dangerous philosophy that harms the enlightenment of all humanity. I think it is impossible to coexist with christians in the same way it is to coexist with all theists. Their world-view enslaves us all to myth and fantasy.
well I'm sincerely hoping that most gay guys aren't like the ones here, no offense. The people here, ALL the people here, strike me as very very strange. Of course this is an internet board where people discuss (supposedly) large dicks, for chrissakes, so I suppose the demographics are skewed toward the weird. But the level of kink I've found here, guys talking about eating their own sperm or freezing it and then sucking on it, or having a "cum jar" or just absolutely (IMHO) disgusting crap like that just nauseates me. And I've found the gay guys here are weirder about that stuff.
I've had a number of gay friends and they're cool and don't strike me as the type where gay = kink.. they seem pretty normal. So I'm hoping most gay guys are like them. It's not the gayness I have a problem with here it's all the other fetishes, the cuckoldry, the graphic descriptions of body fluid exchange, the small penis humiliation, the clearly bogus penile enlargement, all that. I was kind of hoping to discuss psychology and sociology and dating and mating and how dick size plays into all that and maybe an occasional funny story about guys with big or small shlongs.. but.. well.. I've been disappointed.
I've had a number of gay friends and they're cool and don't strike me as the type where gay = kink.. they seem pretty normal. So I'm hoping most gay guys are like them. It's not the gayness I have a problem with here it's all the other fetishes, the cuckoldry, the graphic descriptions of body fluid exchange, the small penis humiliation, the clearly bogus penile enlargement, all that. I was kind of hoping to discuss psychology and sociology and dating and mating and how dick size plays into all that and maybe an occasional funny story about guys with big or small shlongs.. but.. well.. I've been disappointed.
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You can only comment based on your knowledge and experience. I have to tell you that in the south and the midwest there are a lot of vocal conservative christians.
I was on a bus one time and there were two guys behind me and american and an indian, the american proceeds to tell the indian how much better christianity is compared to other religions.
I went to a wedding where the minister said it is the wife's duty to serve her husband.
BTW those loonies were in power here for a long time and you know US policies affect more than just the US, so unfortunately they are part of today's blueprint.
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Bonky wrote:
"well I'm sincerely hoping that most gay guys aren't like the ones here, no offense. The people here, ALL the people here, strike me as very very strange."
Must not be too strange. The topics haven't driven you away yet - LOL. This site isn't for the prudish. No offense.
"well I'm sincerely hoping that most gay guys aren't like the ones here, no offense. The people here, ALL the people here, strike me as very very strange."
Must not be too strange. The topics haven't driven you away yet - LOL. This site isn't for the prudish. No offense.
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I am one of the guys that does a lot of what nauseates you. I would love to know why I do it, psychologically and sociologically. I tried for years to try to change myself and quit. I have just given up and go where my urges send me now. I am sorry that I disgust you. If you met me on the street, you would find that I appear quite normal. I have only shared these experiences on this board. People in my neighborhood, at work, at church, assume that I am as straight as anyone.
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in their dumb ass heads all lesbians are pretty and curvy and very lipstick...... because its nasty as fuck man when 2 fags get up ta they buttfuckin dicksuckin( taken verbatium from a conversation i was prevy to) but when 2 of dim girls get down thats hot a FUK!........Like i said, cause if they happened up on 2 of them in the middle of a munch and fist off they would let jay or billy dan join in........
I would ponder that most men have a strong sense of duty, and the stereotypical gay is one who acts helpless, is easily frightened, and relies on others to take care of him. Therefore many ignorant men direct their hate toward this group. Stereotypical holly wood lesbians on the other hand can 'get er done' just like men and therefore can be respected and their assurtiveness and the thought of so much female body together is a turn on.
This to me, is a strange thing to say. You argue that it is impossible to exist with theists because their world view enslaves you to myth and fantasy. How can this be when you do not believe in that 'fantasy'. I believe the reason you feel this way is because you live in a predominantly theistic Nation, under a government where majority decides the law and acceptable standards. If you do not agree with these standards then perhaps you should either a.) move to an atheistic country. Or b.) Wait for Christianity to die out in America (which is quickly happening) or move to a state with few theists. Of course Christianity may well be replaced by Islam at this rate.
I myself am a private Christian. I do not go to church, I simply read my Bible and pray whenever I get the chance. I was not raised in religious dogma by my parents or my pastor. To me Christianity is simply a term that means 'following Christ'. If you read the gospel I am sure you will agree that Christ was not a man who went around condemning people for their sins, but teaching a noble path of love.
It sounds to me like you do not hate Christianity, but church dogma. As far as 'enlightenment' goes, trust me, people aren't perfect by nature, and don't magically become perfect by shedding all convictions. If you shed all of life's teachings and stop looking at the truth that is reflected in all creation (even the Indians saw this), then you will find that your desires take over and you realize there is no reasons not to murder, steal, or any such thing unless it is undesirable for you to do so. And that is just human selfishness. I believe that believing in something is much better than having no beliefs to draw on. And I believe that the teachings of Christ, not the church, are reflected true in this world.
To be honest I've been on lots of queer/bisexual/gay/mostly all male boards and this place is pretty tame and I like this site even though it's tame on kink.
Granted I do get tired of some of the "how do I have sex with straight men" or "I'm straight and I had sex with a guy!" threads, but those are common sex fantasies and you will find them on mostly ALL queer male oriented fantasy sites. The fake penis enlargement TEKs/scams/shams are all happily contained in one section here that I can avoid.
At least there are sections here for porn and body worship and whatnot. I like and enjoy some of that but not all the time and it gets tiresome reading about it all the time on fourms where there are not sections for that and it's everywhere. I'm not that into politics either so I'm glad there is a section for that as I've been on forums where people will hijack threads and make them about politics when they have nothing to do with that at all, or they will just beat a dead horse about a political/news subject that's been discussed at great length in another thread and they should just have written about it in that thread instead.
I'm bisexual (technically bi-gay but not in practice) but I get really bored of size queens, guys who are just man crazy or who just talk about sex all the time to the point where it makes them rather vapid/1 dimensional or really boring, and of course I get bored when my straight male friends talk about nothing but pussy and what they do when they have sex with women, but while I don't care if they talk about this stuff I get annoyed at how then if I say that a certain guy is hot or say what I do sexually with a boyfriend they get angry.
As a queer man I think that this site is rather tame about kink but I have not noticed a lot of threads about CBT, bondage/SM, piss W/S watersports, Sadism/masochism, consensual roles that people take on during sex or even life, fisting, urethral sounds, and other such things. If you think that this site is tame I do not think you would like all male fetish/kink sites. I know that you are not into this stuff at all and are not going to visit those sites but trust me this place is tame, nobody is writing about wanting to be someone's human toilet here or writing about the hunger they have where they need to be a consensual Sir/Master's 24/7 consensual slave.
Heterosexuals have kinks too! Keep that in mind that just because someone seems normal or conservative it does not mean that they are not highly into kink.
Some of the kinkiest men I know are teachers, businessmen/guys who work in sales, engineers, construction workers, DJs, florists, cops, college professors, writers and editors, computer programmers/office workers, architects, bankers, and people who you'd never suspect of being into kink.
They do happen to be bisexual or gay men but that's besides the point, you'd never know that these people are kinky or queer just by looking at them or being around them, and it's all just a small aspect of who they are.
Also just because someone is bisexual or gay it does not mean that they are automatically into kink. I Have bisexual and gay male friends who are just into vanilla sex (sex that does not have any kink in it) and I know a gym teacher who is big into paddling, masks, adult consenting submissive women wearing rubber/latex in cages, and he's totally heterosexual and apparently just kinky at times.
If you want to write about sociology, relationships, philosophy, jokes, or other things that you like or enjoy go right ahead. I like kink a lot, and I do sometimes practice it so that's why I write about it.
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I can see were that could be part of the problem. I just wondered if there was any other reson. Like, not realy liking straight guys, or at least not trusting even the nice ones.
do you ever feel weird talking to really attractive women who are out of bounds? or women who are prone to misinterpret male attention?
i have to say that i avoid talking to straight guys most of the time, because i got fed up of having my friendliness taken the wrong way.
it only needs to happen a few times to put you on your guard with everyone.
humm. I see, yeah I have been attracted to woman who were married and felt wierd about being around them, most of all if it was just the two of us. I can also see where some guys could misunderstand you being nice. I myself am very nice and people dont always respond in a positive way. Nice to meet you by the way. Thanks.
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"I would ponder that most men have a strong sense of duty, and the stereotypical gay is one who acts helpless, is easily frightened, and relies on others to take care of him."
That's a large part of the problem. I myself am a masculine "bear" and a factory mechanic. I've come out to several people over the years and they were like "Oh my god! It never even occurred to me that you might be gay!" It just irks me to think I might be lumped into categories with the stereo-typical fem, helpless gay male. I am anything but helpless.
I've always thought that ONE person in any social grouping acting in a negative (in this case, the swishy, limp wristed, fem, girly man) light could totally negate 50 positive impressions.
In a more positive light, I think those negative stereotypes are becoming fewer and fewer over the years. I've always thought that some of those fem guys were intentionally contrived and way over the top so they could fit into their peer groups. In this day and age, people are becoming more free to be themselves - their ACTUAL selves.
That's a large part of the problem. I myself am a masculine "bear" and a factory mechanic. I've come out to several people over the years and they were like "Oh my god! It never even occurred to me that you might be gay!" It just irks me to think I might be lumped into categories with the stereo-typical fem, helpless gay male. I am anything but helpless.
I've always thought that ONE person in any social grouping acting in a negative (in this case, the swishy, limp wristed, fem, girly man) light could totally negate 50 positive impressions.
In a more positive light, I think those negative stereotypes are becoming fewer and fewer over the years. I've always thought that some of those fem guys were intentionally contrived and way over the top so they could fit into their peer groups. In this day and age, people are becoming more free to be themselves - their ACTUAL selves.
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