Attracting Straight Guys

[MarkVonBeast]

wow that is racist...if u had any education u would understand that sexual "orientation" is a cultural construct, nothing more...the concept ov "gay" did not exist until the late 19th century

 

[B_cosmognosis]

Grow a pussy?

^THIS.

Anything else would be uncivilized.

Seriously, this kind of thread is the only thing about LPSG that I don't like. If someone is 100% heterosexual, that's their choice, just like you choose to be gay or bi. You wishing to change them, or trying to figure out how to attract them is pointless and demeaning.

 

[maxcok]

^THIS.

Anything else would be uncivilized.

Seriously, this kind of thread is the only thing about LPSG that I don't like. If someone is 100% heterosexual, that's their choice, just like you choose to be gay or bi. You wishing to change them, or trying to figure out how to attract them is pointless and demeaning.

Sexual orientation is not a choice, though how one identifies is a choice.

Excepting cases of rape, "straight" guys having sex with men is a choice, and plenty of them do so willingly.

 

[pangfling]

I don't quite understand. Why should non-gay guys be considered more sexy than gay guys? Perhaps what you really like is the chase; it gives you a certain satisfaction to win.

i dont know but i myself find straight guys hot or hotter. i think it has to do with their manliness that we are or at least i am so attracted to.
i've never had a crush on a gay so far. and that's the problem coz i always end up "empty-handed".

 

[FRE]

i dont know but i myself find straight guys hot or hotter. i think it has to do with their manliness that we are or at least i am so attracted to.
i've never had a crush on a gay so far. and that's the problem coz i always end up "empty-handed".

You are making assumptions about the "manliness" of non-gay guys vs gay guys. Actually, there is considerable overlap. There are many gay men who would be considered more "manly" than the average non-gay man.

Although some men who are basically non-gay may occasionally have sex with another man, it is basically for the physical sensations; there is little or no emotional involvement and unlikely to be any commitment.

 

[D_Marvin Meatwhistle]

Being a st8 guy...I think it is very possible to attract a st8 guy for a esxual encounter. I mean we are all dudes and I think we have the animal instinct to want to cum. I think that if it were to have a chance to happen,it would have to be understood that it only a one tome thing. There are also many variables that would go into it. I mean some guys might take a NJ and that'd it, or only have a certain type of guy they would even consider. I mean for me the guy would have to be pretty feminine, and it would still take alot of persuasion, but I think its possible for a st8 guy to experiment, but there isn't a certain way to attract them, there are just to many variables.

 

[Countryguy63]

How about a Bi guy that everyone assumes is straight?? :tongue: :wink:

 

[pangfling]

You are making assumptions about the "manliness" of non-gay guys vs gay guys. Actually, there is considerable overlap. There are many gay men who would be considered more "manly" than the average non-gay man.

Although some men who are basically non-gay may occasionally have sex with another man, it is basically for the physical sensations; there is little or no emotional involvement and unlikely to be any commitment.

maybe, but the gay men i've met so far are mostly not as masculine as the straight ones i've met. i would love to change this perception though. i hope to meet more guys to really distinguish what i like, in particular, about straight guys.

 

[GayFrog]

“The American Psychological Association defines sexual orientation as an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectionate attraction toward another person.”
The reason homosexuals are homosexual in the first place is because they are sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. The psychological attraction doesn’t differentiate between gay and straight but what is perceived as masculine or feminine. I am a gay man and I am not at all sexually attracted towards anyone of the opposite sex, or anyone that appears to be feminine. I have been hit on by women, I have let a few women suck my dick but that doesn’t make me straight or bisexual not even in the broadest sense does it make me attracted to women. I have given blowjobs to straight men but that doesn’t make them gay or bisexual. I can assure you they were in no way romantically attracted to men.

Sexuality is not a choice that on the morning of puberty we wake up and say, “Oh pubic hair, I think I’ll be gay.” Many young gay boys struggle with their sexual identity, and eventually come to accept it. Others will suppress being homosexual for a lifetime, just to fit in.

We try too hard to classify what is gay and what is straight, but sexuality is very complex and cannot be put into two or three categories. Besides what is “gay”? I was in the clothiers the other day and two young guys were looking at shirts on a rack. One guy held a shirt up and the other guy said, “That’s gay.” I looked straight at him and said, “I wouldn’t be caught dead in that.”

Stereotyping is one step away from bigotry.

 

[Snakebyte]

Not to point to anyone in particular, but if you're on a sex site devoted to big dicks, enjoy showing off your dick, enjoy looking at dicks, a site where the vast majority are male and the vast majority of them have some significant gay self-identity - I have a hard time accepting you as 100% straight. Beyond that, any guy who engages in sexual activity with another guy who claims to be 100% or even 99% straight needs a serious reality check.

I tend to disagree on that. I doubt LPSG was supposed to be a "sex site" but a support group just like the name says. Actually when I joined LPSG was nothing like it is today. People made it a sex site over the years, but that doesn't change the fact that lots of guys/girls joined for other reasons. In my opinion LPSG is a communty rather than a site about big dicks. Second thing is showing off. Why is exhibitionism or looking for some compliments not straight? So 100% straight guys are not supposed to show off but to keep their dicks in their pants? Further on looking at dicks for whatever reason doesn't necessarily mean that you "enjoy" looking at them. What about the urge to compare your cock to others? Does that make you "not straight" in any way? What about guys like to watch big dicks in girls? Obviously they enjoy the big dicks but not the dick itself but the dick in interaction with a girl.
In general what you're saying is, that there are no 100% straight guys at LPSG. I can speak only for myself, but I never dreamed or phantasized about anything with another dude and I'm absolutely sure that I never will do anything with another guy. By the way, the only reason I go through the gallerys is to find pictures of b/g sex or sth like that.
Well, at least we agree on the 99% or 100% straight thing when you have sexual interaction with other guys.

I don't want to sound harsh, but I think some members of the gay communty also need a reality check. Real straight guys are not interested in sexual interaction with other guys. (not you max, but some others in this thread)

wow that is racist...if u had any education u would understand that sexual "orientation" is a cultural construct, nothing more...the concept ov "gay" did not exist until the late 19th century

Great... that's because before that it was called sodomy and seen on the same level as sex with animals. So I'm pretty happy they at least called them gay later on instead of sodomists.

 

[sumdude]

There's a whole lot of hot, hung straight boys I'd let sodomise me. Dunno about you.
And to the twit with the ooh - this is what I don't like about LPSG - you're what I don't like about LPSG. If boys wanna scam on other hot boys, that's their business. Just like when you wanna scam on hot chicks that's your business. And if you haven't, don't, can't. Well good for you - you will be allowed to sleep in a cloister of nuns when your car breaks down somewhere. Now fuck off.

Lol. But seriously tho, if you hot bro, we can play. I wouldn't know tho since I haven't looked at your profile.

 

[NoH8]

I guess the guys you would want to attract would have some slight interest in what a guy could offer at the time, so it's doubtful, except in something like a prison situation, that they would actually be 100% straight ( 0 on the Kinsey scale ). Say they are from 1%~10% gay to use the LPSG scale they might self identify as straight. I think this is what confuses everyone because some people call that a lie, and others say that because they only love women, then they're straight. It might be these people that you have some hope of attracting.

When I lived in North Africa I got picked up by a young (23yo) hustler who enjoyed sex with men but preferred women (who were mostly unavailable). He believed he was straight. He didn't like to kiss me. He only liked to fuck and be sucked. He expected to be rewarded too. We became friends and kept this up secretly for about 5 months. Then his older brother found out and blackmailed him by threatening to tell their dad. He didn't stop seeing me until I left the country. He was sweet but with a masculine swagger. I guess he was not quite 100% straight, but he was in no doubt that he was, as he said "a real man" and it was me who was gay. While I was in this relationship I deliberately avoided using these kinds of labels, or trying to coax him into doing things he didn't
like. It was about pleasure and sharing time together. He was horny, so was I. As long as he was the traditional top he was happy, and at the time, so was I.

In Korea I met some soldiers in the US Army through my work. One, "Rock" an amateur boxer built like a very tall truck was quietly friendly. After a couple of weeks when we met at clubs and casinos with other soldiers he invited me to his quarters to watch a Rodney Dangerfield video. His room was tiny, with only a single bed. We lay together on top of the bed watching the video. It was funny but nothing else happened. I was afraid of risking his career and my visa by making a move.

The next weekend we met again at the casino with his buddies and his girlfriend. Somehow somebody said they word "gay" in the conversation and he looked at me and said "I'm a little bit gay". I smiled and his girlfriend said, "You can't be a little bit gay. You're either gay or you're not. It's like you can't be a little bit pregnant!" Rock said "Well I am!" His girlfriend was quite surprised, and the rest of us had to laugh. I knew what he meant and I think it was actually a message to me. I was proud of him for having the guts. A few weeks later when it was time to leave the country he gave me a huge bear hug and blinking back a tear or two said "I love you man" and wished me goodbye.

Rock was possibly a little bit more gay than Hussein the hustler, but Rock and I never had sex and Hussein wouldn't leave my ass alone! I have made friends with several guys like Rock but very few who had the guts to say what he did.

Though I try not to flirt with straight men I think guys like Hussein are pretty common. They have very good "gaydar" and are not shy in pressing their demands. They scare me 'cause I'm afraid I'll be hurt, one way or another.

 

[WillyLong]

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The only thing you're going to get from a straight guy is a broken heart. Just get yourself a masculine gay man and pretend he's straight.

 

[maxcok]

I tend to disagree on that.

Well you edited out the beginning of my post, so you're quoting me out of context. Here's what you edited out, the part that preceded what you quoted:

The variations on this topic have been done to death on this site. Sexual orientation is a continuum with gradients along the way. No, I'm not going to link the Kinsey scale this time, but anybody not familiar with the concept really needs to look it up. Your sexual orientation is not defined by what you say your identity is. It is determined first of all by the sexual activities you engage in, but also your dreams and fantasies. Hardly anyone is truly 100% gay or 100% straight. Most people fall somewhere on the continuum.

It's really cool that this site has the option to define orientation on a percentage scale. . . .

I doubt LPSG was supposed to be a "sex site" but a support group just like the name says.

To my understanding, the name 'Large Penis Support Group' was intended as a joke in the humble beginnings.

Actually when I joined LPSG was nothing like it is today. People made it a sex site over the years, but that doesn't change the fact that lots of guys/girls joined for other reasons. In my opinion LPSG is a communty rather than a site about big dicks.

It's evolved into many different things to many different people, and people have many different interests and motivations for being here. Like you (I presume) the sexual aspect is nowhere near the top of my list. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Second thing is showing off. Why is exhibitionism or looking for some compliments not straight? So 100% straight guys are not supposed to show off but to keep their dicks in their pants?

I didn't say that; you're exaggerating. At any rate, there's a lot of room between keeping it in your pants on the one hand, showing off for an ego boost somewhere in the middle, and voluntarily showing off for the boys with the express purpose of getting yourself off to their comments. That last one is what I referred to in my post. But then, getting off to the comments posted by internet strangers regarding your pictures or videos is frankly a phenomenon I neither relate to nor understand. I don't even get jacking off on cam. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Further on looking at dicks for whatever reason doesn't necessarily mean that you "enjoy" looking at them. What about the urge to compare your cock to others? Does that make you "not straight" in any way? What about guys like to watch big dicks in girls? Obviously they enjoy the big dicks but not the dick itself but the dick in interaction with a girl.

These are questions you ought to be asking yourself, not me. As usual, your defensiveness on these matters is more revealing than the activity itself, and more than your protestations of hardcore heterosexuality warrant. Why would anyone voluntarily look at dick pics if they didn't enjoy it? I frankly don't care what you do, why you do it, or whether or how you justify it to yourself.

In general what you're saying is, that there are no 100% straight guys at LPSG.

Nope, that's not what I said. Go back and read what I said. Literally. Word for word.

I can speak only for myself, but I never dreamed or phantasized about anything with another dude and I'm absolutely sure that I never will do anything with another guy. By the way, the only reason I go through the gallerys is to find pictures of b/g sex or sth like that.

Who are you trying to convince here? If you need to justify to yourself why you like looking at dicks, fine.
To repeat: I frankly don't care what you do, why you do it, or whether or how you justify it to yourself.

Well, at least we agree on the 99% or 100% straight thing when you have sexual interaction with other guys.

The fellas that really cause me to roll my eyes are the ones who actively seek out sex with men, and especially the ones who are obsessive cocksuckers and want to be pounded hard in the ass by the biggest cocks they can find, but still identify as 99-100% straight. Some of them seem to talk about nothing but dick in their posts, and in actual sexual practice they seem to be much "gayer" than I am by far.

I don't want to sound harsh, but I think some members of the gay communty also need a reality check. Real straight guys are not interested in sexual interaction with other guys. (not you max, but some others in this thread)

There is no "gay community" that decides these things, just as there is no comparable "straight community". We are all individuals with varying orientations, varying opinions, and different hangups. By "real" straight guys I assume you mean true blue 100 percenters vs. those that identify as such, but really aren't. That refers back to the point of my post. I don't doubt 100% straight people exist, just as I don't doubt 100% gay people exist. I do doubt the overwhelming number of men on this board who identify as 99%-100% straight actually are in reality and in practice, though many of them, certainly not all, may be predominantly straight. I understand why most men feel they need to identify as 100% straight IRL due to social stigma. I do not understand why they feel that need here when they are operating under an anonymous internet persona, and where that sort of social stigma is frowned upon and largely absent. Regardless, there are plenty of men who engage in M/M sexual activities and fantasies, who find all sorts of creative ways to deny their true identity, using elaborate excuses and justifications to identify themselves as solidly, ironclad, 100% heterosexual.

It's a form of internalized homophobia, and it's just not an honest, healthy way of being.

 

[Snakebyte]

Ok, I may have misinterpreted what you wrote. Sorry for that. Maybe I'm just a little bit to sensitive because I read so much bull about this topic in the past and I'm tired of all those dudes want to "seduce" "straight" guys. I guess in general we share the same opinion.
But you also misinterpreted my "gay community". Since English is not my mother tongue I want to apologize if my statement was ambigious. In Cologne they define themselves as a "gay community" so I thought they do everywhere. Sorry for that again.

 

[B_cosmognosis]

If a man is STRAIGHT he will not be ATTRACTED to another man. This simple point is what seems to be what this thread is missing. It has now been stated by a straight man. I'm not trolling, just getting a basic idea across that needs to be clarified apparently, before someone else gets the notion that straight men are just 'gays-waiting-to-happen' given time and opportunity.

I'm not homophobic, either. It's just that there's nothing wrong with defending the heterosexual point of view. We were meant to co-exist, gay and straight. It seems sometimes that there's an agenda to assimilate those of us that are hetero as if there's something wrong with us. There are and will always be those of us who are 100% straight.

There's been one too many of these goddamn 'how to make a straight do something gay' threads. If it were a thread on how to trick a lesbian into sucking cock, the women here would be all over it...the silence is deafening.

/rant

 

[dtlol]

There are straight guys who enjoy sharing their sexuality with other guys. Enjoy them, God knows I have. Here are a few suggestions:
1) When it's going to happen, you know it's going to happen, just like when you meet a lady at a party or at a club. If the chemistry is right and sexuality is an ingredient then proceed while carefully reading the signs and signals (and warnings) he's giving you.
2) Be versitile. If you want to share your sexuality with a straight dude, you need to offer him the fantasy (both mental and physical) that he needs.
3) Do not be sexually dogmatic. I have found one of the things that inhibits straight guys from experimenting sexually is they have experienced guys who insist on telling them because they enjoyed a blow job or even got fucked, they are gay, and face up to it and admit it. In nearly every case I know of this is NOT what the curious straight guy wanted to hear when it was over. "Nice, guy, real nice." Is much more appropriate to the situation Also remember some guys start to freak out when there's another guy over them. Relax about it, lay on your sides, it's about having fun, not about winning an argument.
4) He's going to get up and go home either to be alone or to be with a lady. He's not looking for a long term partner or ever someone to wake up next to tomorrow morning, he's looking of a new and hopefully very satisfying sexual experience. If you really enjoy straight guys, this is what you should give him.
Use common sense, you should be able to stay out of trouble, not get hurt and have some far out sexual experiences with some very far out straight guys. But remember, like any successful sexual experience respect (no matter how it is acted out) is second only to horniness.

you genius!

 

[maxcok]

If a man is STRAIGHT he will not be ATTRACTED to another man. This simple point is what seems to be what this thread is missing. It has now been stated by a straight man. I'm not trolling, just getting a basic idea across that needs to be clarified apparently, before someone else gets the notion that straight men are just 'gays-waiting-to-happen' given time and opportunity.

I'm not homophobic, either. It's just that there's nothing wrong with defending the heterosexual point of view. We were meant to co-exist, gay and straight. It seems sometimes that there's an agenda to assimilate those of us that are hetero as if there's something wrong with us. There are and will always be those of us who are 100% straight.

There's been one too many of these goddamn 'how to make a straight do something gay' threads. If it were a thread on how to trick a lesbian into sucking cock, the women here would be all over it...the silence is deafening.

/rant

Oh for crap's sake! Everybody's not divided up into "gay" or "straight", in fact MOST people aren't exclusively one thing or the other. Also, the majority of men who publicly identify as "straight" actually ARE open to at least some M/M sexual experimentation whether they're "attracted" to men or not. Many of them have engaged and/or do engage in M/M sexual activities - though most will adamantly deny it. The louder and more adamantly they deny it, generally the more likely they have something to hide. And the more outwardly threatened or repulsed a "straight" man is by the notion of a possible M/M encounter, the more likely he's covering up for his own homoerotic tendencies. Yes, that's been scientifically proven and verified. Now please go back into your little box where you can listen to the own echoes from your own official "heterosexual point of view".

. . . . But you also misinterpreted my "gay community". Since English is not my mother tongue I want to apologize if my statement was ambigious. In Cologne they define themselves as a "gay community" so I thought they do everywhere. Sorry for that again.

No apology necessary, it's just a commonly misappropriated term, here in the US too. The problem first of all is with saying "they", as if "they're" all of the same mind and different from you. Terms like "the gay community", "the black community", "the asian community", etc., are abstract constructs created for social/political expediency to identify perceived common cultural traits, attitudes, and issues of importance to those "communities". While there may be some common political goals of particular importance pursued by activists within these "communities", in reality they're made up of individuals with widely divergent opinions and attitudes that can't be neatly summed up.

In reality, people generally have less in common with their assigned "community" than people outside that "community" assume, and more in common with those outside than the outsiders think. Many who are assumed to be members of their assigned "community", aren't engaged with and don't consider themselves part of that "community" at all. The danger comes in stereotyping, and assuming because some visible members of a "community" present in a certain way, that is indicative of the whole "community". There is no specific gay community attitude, lifestyle, or point of view, anymore than cosmognosis represents "the heterosexual point of view". Better to encounter and judge people as individuals on their own merits, rather than make generalizations based on some abstract "community". Capiche?

 

[Snakebyte]

The only thing I understand ist that you overinterpret lots of things and I for sure will not argue with you about every single word you probably intentionally misinterpret.

 

[maxcok]

The only thing I understand ist that you overinterpret lots of things and I for sure will not argue with you about every single word you probably intentionally misinterpret.

I assure you, I don't intentionally misinterpret anything. Whether I overinterpret anything is, I suppose, a matter of opinion. I don't think so. I was trying to clarify something for you, but perhaps you didn't understand.

As you said, English is not your mother tongue, so I'm not entirely sure you comprehend much of what I've said. That's understandable; my writing on this sort of subject tends to be more complex than your average post. Perhaps it's best just to exit the discussion on a relatively civil tone.

Auf wiedersehen.