Attraction to tall men...

[B_Marcus50]

I suppose we'll agree to disagree on the rest...

I guess we do. It's just amazing that you totally dismiss the fact that there is a huge pressure on men to look good and be perfect. Someone should introduce you to the real world.

But in reference to how short these men are, I am 5'3 and 3/4.
I have found men attractive that are my height, and in some cases, an inch or two shorter than me. So have my girlfriends.

And yet you write this:

"i like tall men because i'm little (just under 5'4") and it feels very...secure. very safe, and protected. i'm sure it has to do with my parents, too. my mom is just under 5'0 and my dad is 6'5..."


"well, the fact of the matter is, yes...there are some people who don't care about height. however, if you're going to deny the fact that most (not all, but most) women would not prefer a man of equal or taller height then you're lying to yourself. it sucks to hear, but it's the truth. as a woman, i would know. me and many of my girlfriends have had many discussions about it".

I don't know what women YOU'RE speaking to, but I certainly do not expect my man to be all of those things. Besides, when you think of it, why would EVER want to be with a women who expects all of that from you? A woman, and man, or any partner should love you for who you are. Plain and simple. If a woman needs those things in order to be attracted to a man then there is certainly something MUCH more wrong with her...

Well, you do expect your man to be tall, so you're not that different from other women.
I don't want to be with that kind of woman, but the fact is that most women are like this today. And you're basically sayng that there's something wrong with most women today, because THEY DO EXPECT ALL THOSE THINGS. I couldn't care less about what the media tries to tell us, what matters is what women think (because I'm a straight guy). I've talked to so many women about this, read thousands of posts from women on different forums and they expect all those things I mentioned before.
I know it's impossible for me to live up all those things, so I don't date anymore. It's a waste of time.

Just as you say women put that expectation on themselves, I can just as easily say that since the beginning of time men have put the unnecessary value on being "alpha" in ever way.

You would be right then - but to a certain extent. Women put more pressure on men NOW than vice versa.

 

[B_Marcus50]

Or impoverished men. Or pudgy men. Or shy men.

See what I'm getting at?

You're totally missing the point. Did you even read my posts before replying?

You're a bitter, short guy who has given up on dating. Am I wrong?

I've already admitted those things, so why are you trying to act like you know me?

You're easily discouraged, get down on yourself a lot, and would rather be a martyr than to try to get the most out of life. None of which are attractive qualities.

You couldn't be more wrong. I hope I'm not that bad at analyzing people...

Ho ho ho, now look at you, thinking that you know me. Read some of my older posts on the topics of insecurity and shyness, and then get back to me.

Are you kidding me? I don't know you and I'm certainly not acting like I know you.

I don't want to browse through your +4000 posts. Show me the link to those posts you're referring to.

 

[rob_just_rob]

You're totally missing the point. Did you even read my posts before replying?



I've already admitted those things, so why are you trying to act like you know me?



You couldn't be more wrong. I hope I'm not that bad at analyzing people...



Are you kidding me? I don't know you and I'm certainly not acting like I know you.

I don't want to browse through your +4000 posts. Show me the link to those posts you're referring to.

I confess that I have lost interest in this debate in the last week.

So go ahead and declare victory, get what enjoyment you can out of life.


EDIT: For you Marcus, I found a link: http://www.lpsg.org/47176-all-women-does-size-actually.html#post782593. My point #5 applies as much to height as it does to penis size.

 

[B_Marcus50]

I don't want to argue with or diss you anything like that because I feel for you in a different way. I am an Asian living in a western country. It is clear to a certain extent that asian guys and white girls never talk each other. Once I asked some asian guys why you guys don't talk to white girls, most of them replied almost automatically that "you know, we are not unattractive to them." like you said.

Wow. If you're Asian then you surely must understand how I feel. Short guys and/or Asians are treated like shit by western (white) women. They have so many prejudices and they love to discriminate.

I don't like this attitude. Maybe I am a rebellious person by nature. I try to talk to white girls if I have any chance.

I think underdogs should sense the reality and take balls to swallow pride and work harder than others. Because that is the rules of the game. With your attitude, you are missing out some girls who you could have hooked up with.

I have tried. Trust me, I really have. It's not worth it anymore. I haven't managed to hook up with a single woman, I haven't even gotten a single positive comment about my looks. And this was before I became bitter.
I don't care that I'm young and all that stuff, I don't wanna start dating again.

For example, how about wearing an elebator and meeting a girl. Then once some intimacy is happening between you and the girl, take your balls to confess why you wear an elebator honestly? If you want to be a player with your height, then I rather have to say "forget about it". But you always can be a real love to one girl you like if you have courage and honesty regardless of your height.

An elebator? Don't know what that is, but I assume you mean shoes with lifts.
No, it's not an option. Most shoes with lifts are plain ugly and women will most of the time notice that you're wearing them.
And what kind of woman will love a short, ugly guy who's far from being well-endowed? LOL, it's just not gonna happen.

I believe "Life is unfair. get used to it", but I also believe that you are always better off if you try to make it more fair to you. I cannot clearly remember who said this but he was kind of dwarf for a basketball player who was super-successful in his career.

I'm up against 3 billion women and natural instinct/selection. Impossible battle. I'm just focusing on getting a good education and a good well-paid job, my friends and my family. The rest of the women can fuck off for all I care.

"It's not the height, it's the heart."

That's true. For men.

For women it's: "It's not the heart, it's the height, his looks, his big penis, his status and his wealth".

Well, I'd better get back to my essay now. The deadline is approaching.
Cheers, man!

I hope you aced it! :smile:

 

[DiscoBoy]

Wow. If you're Asian then you surely must understand how I feel. Short guys and/or Asians are treated like shit by western (white) women. They have so many prejudices and they love to discriminate.

Bullshit.

I'm short and I've had "western (white)" women make passes on me, and I'm no adonis. A good attitude goes a long way.

The shit you spew is disturbing, and I hope no one takes any heed of what you say. I feel for those insecure, short men who read what you write and have their self-esteem shot to bits.

 

[Ramsey]

I'm up against 3 billion women and natural instinct/selection. Impossible battle. I'm just focusing on getting a good education and a good well-paid job, my friends and my family. The rest of the women can fuck off for all I care.

Actually a bunch of those 3 billion women don't even want a man anyway, so you're chances are even less :smile:

 

[voidout]

Bullshit.

I'm short and I've had "western (white)" women make passes on me, and I'm no adonis. A good attitude goes a long way.

The shit you spew is disturbing, and I hope no one takes any heed of what you say. I feel for those insecure, short men who read what you write and have their self-esteem shot to bits.

come here and give me a hug, sugar.


SEE???? I'M WHITE AND HITTING ON HIM.

 

[korinaus]

To Marcus50.

Hey, I am pretty sure that, if you wait now and focus on good education and well-paid job, you would be get laid much more easily than now. But I hope you would soothe your bitter attitude because women hate a bitter man way more than a short man. And, if you hate girls, how can you expect them to like you?

And, nowadays, I talk with some white girls. I will let you know a funny thing. Since not many Asian guys approach and talk to white girls, when I do, sometimes, the girl seems to think I am attracted to her so madly that I become brave enough to talk to her, which is a bit pleasantly shocking. But I am not attracted to all white girls but the white girls who are also good humans.

Lastly, for a practical advice, there are decent lifts out there that just look like normal shoes. And hit the gym. You can't lenthen yourself vertically but widen horizontally.

 

[D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits]

I'm just focusing on getting a good education and a good well-paid job, my friends and my family.

This is the most sensible thing I have seen you post. When I was on the dating scene I was mostly attracted to short white males, but you guys wanted white girls with playboy physical qualities. In the meanwhile I saw these guys missing out because they were chasing dreams, becoming bitter and not looking beyond.

When I stopped worry about men, and got myself together, got my attitude right, the men then came, and they were not white, short guys. When my heart changed, so did my attitude in what I "had to have".

So in essence, take a breather from the opposite sex and work on yourself.

 

[SnitchQitch]

i don't think so. i just think that it would be nicer to crawl into bed and cuddle with a tall man, and it feels more "secure" i guess?

no offence, short men!

 

[DiscoBoy]

come here and give me a hug, sugar.


SEE???? I'M WHITE AND HITTING ON HIM.

:hug: You're a sweetheart :smile:.

 

[voidout]

:hug: You're a sweetheart :smile:.

nawww, you are!

ok, is there such thing as ego stroking here?
oh, yeah...oh, yeah RIGHT THERE, baby!

 

[B_Marcus50]

Bullshit.

I'm short and I've had "western (white)" women make passes on me, and I'm no adonis. A good attitude goes a long way.

How short are you? And if you managed to get women to make passes on you, it must mean that you’re good-looking and/or wealthy.

The shit you spew is disturbing, and I hope no one takes any heed of what you say. I feel for those insecure, short men who
read what you write and have their self-esteem shot to bits.

What a load of bullshit. Go and read all the forums/discussion boards for women. They’re all saying that short men are so unattractive, immasculine, gross and that they would NEVER date a short guy. I’m just saying what most women think about short guys. Hell, even in this forum women are going on and on about short guys being unattractive. There are several threads about height and they all show the same: that short men aren’t attractive at all.
Short men already know that most women find them unattractive, so it doesn’t matter to short guys, whether I write it or not.

 

[B_Marcus50]

This is the most sensible thing I have seen you post.

So how should I interpret that comment? That you would rather not face the truth?

When I was on the dating scene I was mostly attracted to short white males, but you guys wanted white girls with playboy physical qualities. In the meanwhile I saw these guys missing out because they were chasing dreams, becoming bitter and not looking beyond.

I don't go after girls with playboy physical qualities, if that's what you're getting at... And were you really attracted to short guys? Most women won't go near a short guy and/or an Asian. Obviously you just avoid Asians then.

When I stopped worry about men, and got myself together, got my attitude right, the men then came, and they were not white, short guys. When my heart changed, so did my attitude in what I "had to have".

So in essence, take a breather from the opposite sex and work on yourself.

You're a woman. You can pretty much get every man you want. Don’t ever think that men have it just as easy as you women.
Why do you think that women are so incredibly shallow and critical when it comes to men? It's because you always can find tons of men that are willing to date you. NEWSFLASH: It’s not like that for men! Especially if the guy is short and/or ugly.
And I understand why you're happy that short men didn't approach you. Almost every single women wants to avoid short guys approaching them.

 

[B_Marcus50]

To Marcus50.

Hey, I am pretty sure that, if you wait now and focus on good education and well-paid job, you would be get laid much more easily than now.

Yes, you're right. But then those women will sleep with me for all the wrong reasons; because I'm wealthy and have a good job. I'd rather just stay a virgin then. And it's stupid to wait. The longer I wait the more unattractive I become. Women HATE male virgins.

But I hope you would soothe your bitter attitude because women hate a bitter man way more than a short man. And, if you hate girls, how can you expect them to like you?

Well, women hate short guys anyway, so it doesn't really matter if I'm bitter or not.
And even when I weren't bitter or hated women, they still hated me.

And, nowadays, I talk with some white girls. I will let you know a funny thing. Since not many Asian guys approach and talk to white girls, when I do, sometimes, the girl seems to think I am attracted to her so madly that I become brave enough to talk to her, which is a bit pleasantly shocking. But I am not attracted to all white girls but the white girls who are also good humans.

I'm surprised to hear that. But it must mean that you're physically attractive. Usually women only react in a positive way, if the guy approaching her is really good-looking.

Lastly, for a practical advice, there are decent lifts out there that just look like normal shoes. And hit the gym. You can't lenthen yourself vertically but widen horizontally.[/QUOTE]

I've yet to see some nice shoes with lifts. And I would imagine the woman feeling totally ripped off, when he takes his shoes off.

 

[DiscoBoy]

How short are you? And if you managed to get women to make passes on you, it must mean that you’re good-looking and/or wealthy.

Just shy of 5'6". Wait, are you saying that if a person is short, but also good-looking, they've a chance of getting someone to notice them? So, living a healthy lifestyle, taking well enough care of yourself and dressing well will attract people? Being short isn't the be-all end-all?!

Either way, I'm not exceptionally good looking by any means and nowhere near wealthy. Like I said, a good attitude goes a long way. I'm also gay, so I'm pretty sure I treat them more like people and less like objects than you do (and I'm not saying that only because I'm gay).

What a load of bullshit. Go and read all the forums/discussion boards for women. They’re all saying that short men are so unattractive, immasculine, gross and that they would NEVER date a short guy. I’m just saying what most women think about short guys. Hell, even in this forum women are going on and on about short guys being unattractive. There are several threads about height and they all show the same: that short men aren’t attractive at all.
Short men already know that most women find them unattractive, so it doesn’t matter to short guys, whether I write it or not.

The women in this forum haven't been going on and on about how unattractive shorter men are. They've been, for the most part, stating their preference for taller men, not their disgust and disdain toward shorter men. Also, I don't think many, if any, have completely ruled out the option of dating shorter men.

Sure, the consensus is that taller men are preferable and/or more attractive, but not that short men are undesirable. Look your best, have a good attitude, keep your head up and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

[Attila the Hung]

Well, for what its worth, my gf told me that my height (6`2) was definately a factor in how attracted she was to me when we first met. She is only 5`4 and I towered over her and she liked that, and frankly so did I hehe.

 

[D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits]

So how should I interpret that comment? That you would rather not face the truth?





I don't go after girls with playboy physical qualities, if that's what you're getting at... And were you really attracted to short guys? Most women won't go near a short guy and/or an Asian. Obviously you just avoid Asians then.




You're a woman. You can pretty much get every man you want. Don’t ever think that men have it just as easy as you women.
Why do you think that women are so incredibly shallow and critical when it comes to men? It's because you always can find tons of men that are willing to date you. NEWSFLASH: It’s not like that for men! Especially if the guy is short and/or ugly.
And I understand why you're happy that short men didn't approach you. Almost every single women wants to avoid short guys approaching them.

No, I think you have a distortion of the truth. It's like me saying all white men are in the KKK or have small dicks. For crying out loud, get a grip and stop putting everyone in the same mold!

How on earth did you come to this warped conclusion?? The short man I was engaged to marry was a 5' 6" Italian. He left me for tall, thin, blond hair/blue eyed woman. Yep, left me at the alter. Where did you come up with avoiding Asians??? I dated a 5'4" Filipino during my high school years, after that I became engaged to my Italian boyfriend.

So are you talking about a quick fuck or a long lasting relationship? I will give credit, a woman can find a horn dog anywhere, but many men will not stay in a long relationship when they are not attracted to their mates.

Don't act like men are so innocent in this game-some men can be very shallow and critical when it comes to women. Why else is there a million dollar industry for women to make themselves look good for men?


It is no changing your mind, and ditto for me. What ever you choose, it's your life....peace.

 

[481646]

Well I agree with so many girls out here...its just that being with a tall man seems to be a secure place...and I would look out for his nature rather than other things..coz they are secondary aspects not primarily..

 

[Patchos]

Well I agree with so many girls out here...its just that being with a tall man seems to be a secure place...and I would look out for his nature rather than other things..coz they are secondary aspects not primarily..

Does anyone know how I can whiten my teeth?