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Why do so many question the scientific average cock size?
Because Joe Falcon is 11 inches.

Seriously though, if I didn't know what I know, I'd probably doubt it too. Anybody with a computer and any interest in porn will be bombarded with flattering, sometimes deceptive, and even downright fake pictures of big dicks. You have to go to really specific porn genres to find regular size people and/or ones who don't take decent pictures, so you could easily get the impression that everyone is six plus. To make matters worse, many of the people who should actually know better, and have seen lots of real dicks are size queens and fantasists who may never let go of the ridiculous numbers we've heard for so long.
 
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Because Joe Falcon is 11 inches.

Seriously though, if I didn't know what I know, I'd probably doubt it too. Anybody with a computer and any interest in porn will be bombarded with flattering, sometimes deceptive, and even downright fake pictures of big dicks. You have to go to really specific porn genres to find regular size people and/or ones who don't take decent pictures, so you could easily get the impression that everyone is six plus. To make matters worse, many of the people who should actually know better, and have seen lots of real dicks are size queens and fantasists who may never let go of the ridiculous numbers we've heard for so long.

I guess this is part of the explanation. But most guys must be in the average range themselves? Do they think they are small? Why not just take science for the evidence you already have between your legs?
 

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I have been wondering about that too. Especially because I ran in some discussions about this. I see 2 main reasons, being porn/ deceptive pictures/ etc and the disability to measure properly. How many claims are out there ‘showing’ an 8 inch measurement where the owner is believing it is a correct measurement while everyone being mildly interested can debunk it as a bad measurement of a 6 inch penis. And then you get a snowball. My ex was 8 inches, but my new bf is bigger so it must be 9 inches
 

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But most guys must be in the average range themselves? Do they think they are small?
Unfortunately, I wouldn't doubt it. Then you end up with even less people who are proud enough of their normal size dick to be showing it off in pictures, so the ratio remains skewed and it just gets worse.
 
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And then you get a snowball. My ex was 8 inches, but my new bf is bigger so it must be 9 inches

Unfortunately, I wouldn't doubt it. Then you end up with even less people who are proud enough of their normal size dick to be showing it off in pictures, so the ratio remains skewed and it just gets worse.

So, the average cock size has become unbelievable?
 
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I have been wondering about that too. Especially because I ran in some discussions about this. I see 2 main reasons, being porn/ deceptive pictures/ etc and the disability to measure properly. How many claims are out there ‘showing’ an 8 inch measurement where the owner is believing it is a correct measurement while everyone being mildly interested can debunk it as a bad measurement of a 6 inch penis. And then you get a snowball. My ex was 8 inches, but my new bf is bigger so it must be 9 inches
“prove it”
 

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So, the average cock size has become unbelievable?
I don't want to be average. Maybe, I would like to have the median measured cock length. But, if that median measurement was lower than the average-sized cock, my ego might fail.

Why do so many question the scientific average cock size?
:rolleyes:For the "average" educated American that appears to have the loudest voice in demanding superiority in knowledge, scientific proof does not exist. Americans fail to recognize statistical concepts as a mathematical accumulation of data points. They don't understand math. If they think they "understand", they will usually mistate their knowledge.
 

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I think people question scientific studies because there is lots of variety. The standard 5.16 in average from Veale et al is from a wide range of studies. Some studies reveal a 6.4 average and other yeild a 4.9 average, 98% of which are based on a flaccid stretched length, not erect length (SL and EL varies from person to person). Average is complicated. I think it’s better to give a range than an average. Some people see the 5.1 average and think most men are that size, but it actually means 50% of men are below that size, which is even more unbelievable for some people.
 

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“prove it”
Scientific evidence? As @Donismon indicates, we need an observable correlation of the measurement techniques.

I hadn't realised that some penis length studies had been based on flacccid stretched length. That leads me to wonder about the major differences in measurements of the same penis stretched post circumcision procedure.
 
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Scientific evidence? As @Donismon indicates, we need an observable correlation of the measurement techniques.

I hadn't realised that some penis length studies had been based on flacccid stretched length. That leads me to wonder about the major differences in measurements of the same penis stretched post circumcision procedure.
MOST studies are based on flaccid stretched. That’s sort of the “standard”. And because most studies don’t measure erect, we don’t have any solid evidence for the average erect girth. Overall volume plays an important role in how one perceives size. A penis may be 5 inches with 6 inches girth, making it appear bigger length wise.

In my opinion, Veale et. al. is garbage.
 
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I just wasn't aware that penis length had been studied in that manner @Donismon. Would you happen to know which stretched data point is utilized on a penis with intact foreskin (i.e. noncircumcised cock)?
 

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“prove it”
Check the enormous amount of ‘measured’ threads on here. Enough proof of incorrect measurements and disbelief when someone is called out on a measurement
 
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Scientific evidence? As @Donismon indicates, we need an observable correlation of the measurement techniques.

I hadn't realised that some penis length studies had been based on flacccid stretched length. That leads me to wonder about the major differences in measurements of the same penis stretched post circumcision procedure.
Why would there be a difference? At least I suppose they are not stretching the foreskin ;)
 
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I think the disbelief in the 5 inch average comes from a number of factors - obviously the exaggerated claims of size in porn (we call those "internet inches"). Additionally the classic studies from years ago in texbooks that stated that the average size was 6, were based on studies where they trusted guys to report their own measurements.. what were they thinking?? lol..

And then there are the countless guys on LPSG who actually believe the stated hung sizes of guys who don't have any pics to back it up.. don't get me wrong, I know there are some horsecocks here.. but I have had so many guys claim 8inches when they even had gallery pics of their 6 inchers.. were they measuring down to their nuts?

Anyway, here is a funny Youtube clip on how to measure your penis without cheating.. and also talks about the average penis size..


I have shared this with several young LPSG nembers who were stressing over their cock size, thinking they were small, when actually they were average or a bit over :)
 

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I think it's due to the dicks we see, on the web or on TV, are often above average in size, or at least appear to be.
Men who have a generous soft size are of course more comfortable being seen naked and are the ones who accept going on TV shows such as Naked Attraction and so on. We, the audience, only see them in the soft state and maybe assume they are above average size also when they get erect, which might not be the case.
Same goes for the web where it's more common to see erect dicks. Again, men who are confident in their size will be more happy to display their dicks than men with more average or smaller dicks. It is not the average men with average sized dicks who we see as a rule, at least not on TV or the web.
If you want a more accurate picture of what the average sized man's dick looks like, you need to look elsewhere, such as at swimming centers or other locker rooms where men get changed.
 

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One last thing I’ll add is: I am not convinced that guys who are bigger are more confident in showing off their dicks. I hear this a lot, but I like to challenge it. Guys on both ends of the size spectrum are possibly equally insecure. Guys with 6 inch dicks who think they are small may not be confident in showing off, but guys sporting 5 inches might think they’re pretty big, especially if it’s girthy. Most men have some insecurity about their penis. I would say that men who are confident in general are more likely to show off their dick, despite what size they are.
 
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