Avoidance of religious gay or bisexual males...

[AtomicMouse1950]

I personally avoid bi-guys or married men all together. They can be frustrating for a gay man. They're not going to commit to you in the first place no matter how good the sex is/was. Of course they have their wives or g/f's to fall back on. And why should they commit to you for that reason?

 

[rbkwp]

I personally avoid bi-guys or married men all together. They can be frustrating for a gay man. They're not going to commit to you in the first place no matter how good the sex is/was. Of course they have their wives or g/f's to fall back on. And why should they commit to you for that reason?






HAVE to Say, agree wholeheartedly re Bis
Generally i feel they have no reason to Commit fully to a Gay
No Need!
unless they have fully divorced themselves from the Women.
Then again, only my thoughts as have had no direct experience of same ..?
Apart from an X who i found a wife for, convenient for us both ha


my other post was referring to possible Gays of Religion?? ha

 

[FuzzyKen]

To the OP. I would take things on a case by case basis. Extremists come in all sizes shapes, colors and orientations as do really great people. The same is true of churches and their belief systems as are there wide variations on what comes from a pulpit. For a time I served as a relief organist at a Congregational Church and that particular church had numerous gay members and a female clergyperson who was very accepting and embracing of all orientations.

MCC is predominately a gay church and UCC churches are usually a mix and accepting also.

It comes down to several factors. The first is the individual you are considering becoming involved with. The second is his own acceptance of his own orientation. The third is that if he attends a church is that church accepting and does that church have many members of the gay community in positions on committees and boards etc..

Then comes the religious aspects themselves. I cannot stand individuals who sit and spout scripture constantly or always try to have the appropriate or inappropriate scripture for a given situation. These people are leading extremely myopic lives anyway and their religious convictions are an excuse to allow someone else to either direct their lives because they do not want responsibility for their own lives.

The idea is compatibility between individuals and sadly the religion has little to do with it. If you are attracted to the person the religious aspects would not be a stumbling block because that person would meet your needs.

As we age and interact with the world around us this becomes a great deal more complicated.

When I am a spinning chunk of dust if anyone asked about me I would like to be remembered for a number of things and my religious convictions or belief systems would be about 80% of the way down that long list.

Religion is a part of life, but it not the only part of life and when it is the person has many problems that have nothing to do with religion.

If you look at it this way you will probably find things a great deal better and gravitate towards individuals that are positive influences in your life. No religious zealot is ever a positive contribution to anything. They are not even a positive contribution to each other because they tend to compete as "authorities" and if that doesn't work they stab each other in the back.

Look at the person and forget the religion. If religion is the driving force in their life, they are compensating for other things missing in their lives and their search for answers has led them at least for a time into this area.

Good Luck

 

[invisibleman]

I personally avoid bi-guys or married men all together. They can be frustrating for a gay man. They're not going to commit to you in the first place no matter how good the sex is/was.

Gay men can be very guilty of that.

 

[D_R_Revoix]

I am on several chat sites which are sexual by definition. I really am offended by men who start talking religion to me. If I want religion I will go to church, not a jerk-off site.

 

[invisibleman]

I really am offended by men who start talking religion to me. If I want religion I will go to church, not a jerk-off site.

I agree.

 

[Neva2big]

That would be a no-go zone for me. Im an atheist, but my bf is a believer, and I think everyone is entitled to their own personal beliefs, but should not try to push their own beliefs on others.
In my experience, religious types who attend church, and/or let religion play a major part in their lives, are usually pretty screwed up, and want to hide their sexuality, their partner and lots of other aspects of their lives from their family and other "religious" friends.
So in other words, they're quite happy to live a lie by lying to their family and friends, just so they can fit in with a religious culture that teaches them lying & same sex relationships will see you burn in hell.
This always plays on their mind, so they are never truly happy in a same sex relationship and deceiving their cult & other members of it.
In the end, they have to give up one or the other, & most times it's the religious cult that wins out.

 

[Wave]

Hmmmnnnn.....interesting that everyone who replied here is coming from the perspective that The Other is the gay one, though I guess that is what the original question engendered. Well, as a believer myself (i label myself as a messianic gnostic christian cuz you can understand the new testament a lot better if you understand the jewishness of it and also i believe in the experience of supernatural stuff, hence a more generic version of what "gnostic" means in the gnosis (knowing) of God through what happens in our lives)........as a believer myself i kinda know what you all are talking about. it's about guilt per se but more about (if you have a real connection with God and are not just about going to church out of tradition or to please your family or cuz you think that will make you saved or something) .... but more about not wanting to let God down or "miss" what you could have with Him if you lived more holily. i know that all sounds kinda whacky but EVERYONE gets changed by their mindsets over time......dudes who need to have whole arms shoved up their butts or white dudes who are total slaves to black men with huge penises or even want those black men to "breed" their wives........ those are also 'interesting' mindsets that develop over time....not just religious folks end up whacky. i am digressing, sorry.

yeah,, i messed up some great relationships with guys cuz i did not think the whole gay thing was "right" or even sustainable. now the pickings are smaller and i am older and it's not as easy, ya know. Christians don't always operate out of guilt...some are actually more mature than that........but it IS sad to see many hoping that God will "heal" them or something and then it does not happen and they lose faith or get bitter. Frankly, i don't know how it all really works out in the end. Maybe i was trying to denfd believers with this post or maybe i was agreeing with you guys in a round about way. not sure! Thanks for reading.

 

[D_BenJo_Ahanakokolele]

I believe in god but despise religion. I respect but i don't support the church or any other religious institution.

Not sure where that leaves me.

 

[Spuds]

I don't care if they're religious, but I can't date a closeted guy who is paranoid about being 'found out.'

 

[malakos]

I believe in god but despise religion. I respect but i don't support the church or any other religious institution.

Not sure where that leaves me.

Why? Religion is really just any kind of formulation and systematizing of metaphysical/spiritual beliefs.

 

[Amaethon]

I have no problem towards religious people (homosexual or otherwise) because I'm respectful of them and their beliefs, as well as myself being religious (Celtic Paganism).

 

[malakos]

(i label myself as a messianic gnostic christian cuz you can understand the new testament a lot better if you understand the jewishness of it...)

Well, the various forms of Jewish religion (not modern rabbinical Judaism which is actually an almost completely different thing) leading up to Christ certainly provide a great deal of context for the New Covenant, but nonetheless the New Testament departs from Judaism to quite a severe degree.