Baby Killed in Supermarket

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  1. findfirefox

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    I found this a bit disturbing that someone could actually behead their own child because they got so angry at their brother in law... It makes me wonder if the mindset was "if I can't have it no one can" and if he really thought that was the way to go about it.

    From ABC News

    I find it a bit strange that someone actually decided it was necessary to clarify that what happened was not normal in the culture, that may be a sign of what many people "over there" think western culture thinks of them.

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    Hey man, I was a baby once. I am offened.
     
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    I don't find it "offensive", it find it odd and a bit sad, too bad the brother in law didn't take the baby away...
     
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    Stir the shit findfirefox. How long do you think this post will last?
     
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    Shhh, you're going to he me in trouble. In reality I reposted this because its no different then all the other "stuff" (another word might fit better there) in this forum, and this should be treated no different.

    I find the most interesting part of the article that someone as taken the time to say that their culture does not condone baby beheading.
     
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    Honestly I was hoping for discussion on this. It was such a barbaric act. It did not seem like mental illness, it seemed like a fit of anger. When a mother drowns her children in the bathtub, that is mental illness to me. When she lets them roll into a lake inside a car, that is murder.
     
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    I have always considered that a "barbaric" act requires less cognitive ability or control then something "planned" or "civil". It would seem that things like drowning children or being unable to control your anger/hatred would be easier then thinking things through and remaining calm.

    The id is there first, it wants and demands, what happens when the ego loses control or does not develop? It's much easier to satisfy then the superego (that is if your superego developed).
     
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    It wasn't his child though. And he was mentally unstable.
     
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    Which is more barbaric - murder as an act of madness - or premeditated and sanctioned and performed by the State in the cold light of dawn?
     
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    Whoops, thank you for pointing that out.

    I don't see where it says he was mentally unstable though, I see where it says they may argue that but I don't see a clear message saying that he was previously declared unstable.
     
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    Murder out of "madness" is for instant gratification.

    Depending on the state murder in the "cold light of dawn" most likely has a rational and was for more then instant gratification.
     
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    That also could be determined as case of mental illness in the latter person's trial.


    Sorry fff. The article doesn't confirm that the man was mentally ill.
     
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    "Wilcke adds, however, that under Saudi law, even if a judge ruled for the death penalty the victim's family could choose to pardon the killer -- perhaps more of a possibility in this case because the alleged killer and victim are related. "

    I thought that this was bizarre. If his family feels that he was pushed into doing this, he could be set free.
     
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    To behead your 15 month old nephew in a supermarket is much more barbaric, than putting to death a man who is in prison for raping and killing a child.
     
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    I would assume this means immediate family... I don't think I could ever forgive another member of my family for killing my child, mentally unstable or not.
     
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    Sorry FFF, you need to do better than this - maybe tomorrow. :rolleyes:
     
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    No, you lying little sack of woodrot, you were not hoping for a discussion- need I remind you of this statement?


     
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    Even when one is committed by a lunatic and the other by the most advanced wealthiest nation in the world?
     
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    That is a strong argument, telling me to "try again later" while also putting up no rational as to why I would or why you believe that what I said is incorrect.

    To which I can see some of the point you are going to make (most likely) I just find them poorly based and a bit on the crazed side.
     
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    I thought this topic had been deemed "unworthy" of the LPSG Off-Topic forum.
     
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