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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Notaguru2, Sep 25, 2008.
Political Radar: Stephanopoulos: Paulson Fears Deal May Collapse
House Republicans at it again.
oh shut up.
both parties are responsible for this mess.
I am an independent, and your vote for these clowns on both sides of the aisle has contributed to this unmitigated disaster.
the democrats with their blind support for the downtrodden folks who should have never been given mortgages and credit that they could not afford and the republicans with their love of deregulation are both at fault for this.
why don't you and the democrats take all the republicans and jump off the planet and leave the rest of us who don't vote for these corrupt political parties the hell alone.
I want to see this thing dragged out for years... and watch egg on Paulsons face as we suffer a recession, but nothing like teh great depression, as he is trying to scare us into believing.
The bailout might just make things worse anyways. I'd rather worry about justice and principles.
Bailout plan couldn't fall apart because it was never put together...giving these companies money really is the only solution, but the problem is no one has thought about the details and complexities of how to do this and make it work, so, there really is no plan yet, the only thing it consists of is "let's give these companies a bunch of money", and that's pretty much it so far
If you took time off from whacking your dick, you'd know that I have said many times that Dems are just as culpable as the GOP on this credit failure. I've also said line them all up and take them to jail.
Come back when you have something intelligent to say, and that doesn't include a link to a 4' tall, 65# girl taking a 12" dick thicker than a moose's leg in the ass.
you obviously have never worked in the financial markets..."nothing like the great depression"? how the fuck would you know?
I worked in the market for 10 years, all my friends are in the market, my family is in the market in so are all their friends, and everyone is fucking scared shitless...so you will excuse me if i am on the side of people who know what they are talking about as opposed to an illogical ranter in a dumb hat.
everyone i know with half a brain is all cash, or virtually all cash and precious metals and on the sidelines, waiting to see just how big a bloodbath this will be if the bailout doesn't go through.
this is the most important financial moment in decades in this country...your nonsensical claim about Paulson "trying to scare us" puts you in the lead is the standard bearer of the ignorant and stupid lunatic fringe.
Do you have *NO CLUE* the chasm we are looking into? This crisis has *ended* wall street as we know it. the last two biog investment banks are now banks venerable institutuions have folded or been bought, giant lenders are now virtually nationalized, and we have a frozen credit market teetering on the brink of total collapse and the entire rest of the world is terrified as well because of the potential after shocks...
excuse me if i rely on PAulson and everyone i know in the market, the most senior of which was born in 1919 and is old enough to remember the Great Depression instead of you and your all knowing hat.
funny, i have never posted a link to a 4' tall 65 pound girl taking a 12 dick thicker than a moose's leg in the ass...and i certainly would not go to the trouble of making that description of it if i did.
and as much as i despise the government, excuse me for not agreeing with you in simply "lining them all up and taking them to jail"...come back when you believe in due process instead of hyperbole.
Well, I didn't conjure that image up on my own. I've seen your legendary threads.
my "legendary threads", have never included a description like the one you conjured up.
you have quite an imagination.
i just post a link...i don't feel any need to make the absurd descriptions that you or others post...so you did conjure the description up on your own....unless of course you were projecting someone else's thread onto me, since i have never once made reference to weights, heights, and moose-legs when i post i would suggest that you check your facts and then get back to me.
Whats the phrase? A picture is worth a thousand words? And some how.. you're claiming you don't post it? C'mon, at least stand by the porn you post for the board's consumption.
The democrats are responsible for de-regulating lending?
really? are all of your positions based as equally upon utter ignorance?
There was already a bailout plan drafted. The problem is, provisions in it called for the Secretary of Finance to have all the control over where the money goes and not be questioned or investigated by any form of authority on any of his decisions.
Think of it this way... would you be willing to give your next 5 paychecks to an accountant you don't know personally, but is part of a firm that not only has a horrendous track record of doing anything right when it comes to economic ventures, but also exempts itself from any problems that may arise if their plans with your money don't work? Most people wouldn't even consider a deal like this, but the people writing the bailout hope that an entire nation would do the exact opposite.
They kind of are.
its the same government/corporation circle jerk of crooks. They both enable each other. Government says give out sub-prime loans! Corps say We can't.. unless you deregulate. Govt says OK, we deregulate, you give out loans to people with insufficient credit. we need the economy to look good.
Here's more: Tentative agreement on bailout falls apart - Stocks & economy - MSNBC.com
Bush could fuck up a wet dream.
No, I would not. And the fact that there is a stipulation that says courts cannot investigate only rings more alarms in my head that they don't really have a solid plan except for giving these institutions money which they can then use at their own discretion, that does not constitute as a plan in my eyes, I need to hear "the plan" before I can call it a plan
That stipulation made me think they are making up the crisis.
More like would. Excuse me while I shudder at Bush showing up while I'm boning a creation of my unconscious mind.
Just me, but let's wait this one out a little longer. Bush is trying to push this thru last minute, so it's definitely an indication that it happened under his watch and he should get full credit for it. This injection of money is only delaying the inevitable of either a full scale crash and burn or additional bailouts. It's actually quite amusing to see the wealthiest looking for financial aid this time around because they aren't being paid themselves. Bush looked dogged and haggard the other night in his address. Bet he even anticipates his own term to expire with that sense of relief when a burden is lifted ? January 2009 can't come soon enough for him ?
Vinyl: if you loaned money to somebody because you had a job and wanted to assist someone that was having difficulties -- and he didn't pay you back because of 'tough times' - how would you pursue that? Would you say, "I understand, times are tough" and 'write off' the loss since you have a job? That would be noble indeed.
When he and his friends attacked you and called you a "greedy bastard profiteering asshole that never should have lent money' would you embrace that as well? Money-grubbing snoot that knew he could never pay you back Wall-Street prick motherfucker. Bet you would appreciate that Vinyl.
He didn't say that better go back and read it again...he said "the democrats with their blind support for the downtrodden folks who should have never been given mortgages and credit that they could not afford"... Btw I knew it wouldn't be settled this quick and easy... Which is good