Ball streching Help

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    I've already got low hanging balls but i want them to hang a little lower and I was wondering where i'd got to buy those metal rings some people use or those weights as well? I'm leaning more towards the rings but any ideas would help plus where to pick up the stuff.
     
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    the WMC weights from secretleather.com are the absolutely best quality and most comfortable around. post some pics of your balls and i'll tell you how much weight to get.
     
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    Start with automotive hose clamps. You can pad them with upholstery tape. All for about $5.
     
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    It depends on how much you use them. I don't know for weights but when my leather stretcher starts to become loose I will go to the next size. Here is the guide I use Jarod Johansen - How to Stretch Your Balls
     
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    Alright I would like to know do you start with 1 inch and wait for couple months and move up 2"?
    How long does it take you to reach to 3"?
    What ball stretcher you start with leather or metal?
     
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    when (I) is used its not me as is lineok03

    BUILDING LOW-HANGER BALLS
    Authored by The Bagman
    It is my specialty, the focus of my personal pumping regimen. What's here has been learned not only by experience and research, but by contributions of knowledge shared with me over the years by some of those most successful in building a great-looking set of heavy balls.


    So you want to build one of those georgeous sets of low-hanging, heavy balls? We can help, read on!
    A little anatomy lesson
    First, you need to understand the anatomy of what you are working with. The testicles are pretty much free inside the scrotal sac, but they aren't held up by the scrotum. They are supported by what I'll call "suspenders" from the inner side of the pubic bone. This is a unique tissue that acts a little like a ligament- but it's more flexible and extends or contracts in reaction to temperature. The scrotal sac itself also reacts to temperature. There's also the plumbing; blood vessels and the passages that carry sperm to the seminal vesicle, located by the prostrate. It is the seminal vesicle that produces semen, the fluid part of the ejaculate, while the testicles produce sperm, or the "active ingredient". It is the seminal vesicle that spasms and ejaculates; not the testicles. To build low hangers, you have to stretch the scrotum to make room for them, and you need to stretch the plumbing as well- but the most difficult part is to stretch those "suspenders", the strong tissues that adjust the travel range of the testicles. I call the relevant parts of this process "the elements of success".
    The elements of success: Understanding the role of Temperature
    The keys to stretching these tissues starts with Temperature. Sperm production takes place not at 98.6 F., but at 96-97 degrees- cooler than the normal body temp by a couple of degrees. The body wants to produce sperm; so if the testicles are warmer than the ideal temperature, the body drops them to cool them off. If they are colder, it pulls them in to warm them. Warmth encourages the body to release the tension in the suspending tissues, and let the testicles down. In the extended state, what you do to stretch those tissues further is actually working on the tissues- like stretching a straight piece of wire. In a contracted state, what you do is working against a contraction- like pulling on a spring. So stretching is best accomplished by keeping the testicles on the warm and extended side as much as possible.
    The elements of success: Learning about "Tissue Conditioning"
    The tissues will react better to the process when they are in the right state, or condition. This is addressed in part with temperature, but there's more. Pumping causes tissue to become inflated, and if correctly done, it softens and elongates the tissues without permanent damage. It's somewhat like a balloon: Compare the new uninflated state and the used uninflated state. Obviously, one is much more ready for stretching than the other. Pumping enlarges the scrotum, which makes more length for the testicles to drop into; and it tends to have some permanent enlarging effects on the testicles themselves. That's good, because low-hangers look out of place if the size of the nuts does not fit the bulk of the bag overall.
    So how do you pump for this purpose?
    If you pump in a typical combination cylinder like the STJ or most two-stages, you get both scrotal and testicular inflation, but the stretch is unilateral: the lengthwise and side-to-side tensions are the same. On the other hand, such pumping does nothing to stretch the suspending tissues, because the testicles are floating free in the enlarged scrotum; there is no extending tension on the suspensory tissue itself. However, those tissues are being affected by the "balloon" effect to a degree, and this makes them easier to modify with other steps.
    If you pump in a cylinder designed to develop length, the stretch is not unilateral. It develops that way at first, but soon meets the cylinder walls- and any additional extension is developed lengthwise. A major issue here is that the fit between your size and the cylinder size is important. One size does not fit all, and you need the right size if you want it to work, because you want it to actually draw the testicles (not just the scrotum) down the tube. Pumptoys makes two cylinders for this purpose. One is a straight 4", the #LJC or LongJohnny. The second is a special contoured cylinder, designed to add bulk and shape to the testicles after they are pulled down, called a BULL Master.
    The elements of success: Learning about "Extension Tension"
    In some way, you must create a consistent tension of the suspensory tissues, that encourages them to extend further. This cannot be done quickly or with excessive force- period. There are basically four ways to create this tension - Weights, Spring extension, Spring tension and Static extension. Here's the way each works:
    WEIGHTS are usually circular and clamped around the scrotum above the testicles; sized so that the testicles can't recede through them. The best known form is the two-piece weight. While sold at high cost through adult stores, it's actually an industrial product, called a "split-shaft coupling". It's used to connect two pieces of steel drive shaft. They look like a thick-walled piece of steel tube, split lengthwise, and are joined with recessed screws. You can find these most economically at Ruland Industrial Couplings (Shaft Collar, Rigid Coupling & Flexible Shaft Coupling Manufacturer) who manufactures them for industry. They are available in steel, stainless steel and other metals, and come in a multitude of sizes and lengths. Weights are usually fairly uncomfortable, in part because people use too much weight or too small a size. The center hole sizing is important, in that too small an opening cuts off circulation and too large an opening falls off unexpectedly (and then out your pants leg). Too heavy becomes unbearably painful and tends to cut circulation off too.
    The best way to wear split weights is to buy them slightly larger in inner diameter than needed, and short in height- you can wear more than one if you want more tension. Next, cut the foot portion off of a sock, preferably from one with a light athletic weight fabric. Slide this over the testicles, then install the weight. The sock has taken up the over-sizing of the ring, but cushions the weight and has less circulation interference than steel on skin.
    Now, fold the upper part of the sock down over the weight and the scrotum. Add a rubber band just below the weight. Pick the size carefully- not so tight as to constrict the scrotum, but enough to hold the sock in under the weight a bit. Now, the sock has cushioned your legs and body from the steel. It's also helping keep both your scrotum and the steel warm, encouraging the natural extension of the tissues. You can compensate for size variation by using different thicknesses of sock material.
     
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    SPRING EXTENSION is a much less used method. One approach uses a soft spring about 2" diameter. The spring is placed over the scrotum and against the body, but not over the penis. The spring is compressed, and then a rubber collar is stretched over the testicles. The collar has a groove in the back which accepts the spring, and once in place the spring prevents the collar from stretching over the testicles again. The entire spring may be enclosed in a tubular fabric for comfort. A second spring tension device uses a base collar that surrounds both penis and balls, having two spring loaded extension tubes that push on a testicle collar similar to a split-weight. To my knowledge, there are no commercial sources for these devices, they are either custom made of home-made.
    SPRING TENSION is probably one of the best methods. Although it's a little more complicated to make, if done well it's highly reliable and comfortable. The method uses some kind of collar to grasp the testicles- say a leather wrap with buckle or velcro closure. From this there will be one or two elastic bands that tie to anchoring straps below the knees. The straps should be adjustable, and provide the desired amount of downward pull on the testicles.
    STATIC TENSION is a common and very simple method. Static means not actively pushing, as a spring would be. The practice of stacking steel rings around the scrotum is the typical method. Every week or so, you add another ring- and thus you add both some weight and resistance to contraction. The lower ring controls the fit, and often there will be a rubber bumper or some kind of collar used to assure it stays in place. While these rings are also sold in adult stores (usually called cock rings in the smaller sizes) they are grossly over-priced there, often with prices of $5 or more. PumpToys sells both rings and a unique kit based on ring-style tensioning, called the Ball-Ringer. Another method used to hold an extended position is a soft ring called a FlexRing.
    Here's some advantages and dis-advantages of the various tensioning methods:
    The fourth element of success in testicle extension is time- meaning whatever method of tension you use, you must use it whenever possible. If you use it 24/7, you get the maximum benefit. If you use it 50% of the time, you will only get about 25% of the gain of the 24/7 schedule. So whatever you use, it must be something you can live with day in and day out.
    WEIGHTS can create a real comfort problem, reducing the wear time. In addition, weights depend on gravity, so they work best while you are standing or walking. (However, running with weights tends to be highly undesireable.) If you are sitting or laying down, much of the tension of the weight is lost, so it's not working for you.
    SPRING EXTENSION works almost all the time; sitting, standing, walking, sleeping. The disadvantage is that it is typically found to be both uncomfortable and hard to set up right. It also creates a rather strange bulk in the crotch area, which tends to be somewhat difficult to conceal under clothing. With the coil spring approach, there is also a size/tension issue. You want the spring to provide just enough tension while under a small amount of compression- say 5% of it's length. As you make gains, the spring no longer fits that profile and needs to be changed. Finding the right size / length / strength combination in these steps is usually not easy.
    SPRING TENSION with the flat elastic works all the time you wear it. You can run, walk, sit, or sleep with equal ease. The tension varies slightly as the legs are in different positions, but that can be benefical- actually working the suspenders like an exercise. The tension is widely adjustable by using elastic of different strengths and/or varying the amount of extension of the band. It tends to pull the scrotum up against the fly is a seated position, but this too is variable depending on the way the knee straps are placed. The only dis-advantage is this- You must put this on before your trousers, and must take them off to remove it.
    STATIC TENSION with rings works in most positions as well, though it's less effective in prone or sitting positions. It's advantage is simplicity and the ease of finding the product, with the only complications being correct sizing and getting a good bottom ring seat to keep them in place. Beyond a point, these rings become a weight device as well as a tension device. Because it creates a somewhat ridgid stack, it tends to show more under clothing as the number of rings increases. The dis-advantage of rings is that getting a fit that will hold can be difficult, and a poor fit is either embarassing (as rings fall out your pantsleg) or painful from poor circulation.
    SUMMARY
    The amount of force required to extend the scrotum and testicle suspenders is not large. It is the length of time of exposure more than the amount of force that does the job. It's not so much a stretching of the existing suspender- it's a re-building of it. Cell regeneration is a process that is always going on it the body, and it can't be rushed. If you have full extension of the "suspenders" plus a little extra tension while that process continues, the re-generation growth will adjust the length permanently. One more thing: DON'T go through a metal detector wearing either rings or split weights; the resulting search will be most embarrassing!
    YOU NEED A PLAN that combines the factors that create low-hangers, and you need enough self-discipline and dedication to stick to the plan. The elements of a good plan are:
    · Temperature Control; you always want the scrotum kept warm, even if not under tension.
    · Tissue conditioning; by objective-oriented pumping and proper massaging
    · Extending tension; a way to keep that little tug on the suspenders comfortably.
    · Exposure time; a set-up that you can wear and be comfortable for as many hours of the day as possible.
    Having a plan means you have an objective (building low hangers), a goal (say 1" drop in 90 days) and a method- a way to encourage the process and a schedule of using it. You work your plan, sticking with the schedule- and you will achieve your goal or at least a good part of it. Time is a variable here- no two people are alike in the tissue condition or response, so the same methods and schedule will not have the same results for everyone. A growth plan does not go on forever, you may stay with it 90 days or 6 months- then leave it alone for a while. It all depends on what you want to accomplish.
    Here's the plan that has worked best for me:
    · I pump twice daily, usually a morning session and an evening session of about 30 minutes each. I use low pressure, and a custom combination tube 3" in diameter with a tapering seal. It pumps both penis and balls, but pulls both lengthwise. It doesn't create a great deal of engorgement, so I'm not bloated afterwards.
    · After the morning & evenings pumps, I wrap the scrotum in a warm wet towel for 15 minutes or so. Some of the inflation reduces, and the tissues relax even more. Then, I use a special massage technique on the scrotum and testicles that is somewhat like a jelking regimen, but more target-specific.
    · I put on my tension device, which is a knee-strapped elastic band system. I adjust this to a comfortable level, and go about my day's business. Occassionally through the day I will adjust the tension to suit if needed. I also wear the tension system overnight while sleeping.
    I start my twice-daily pumps immediatly after removing the tension device and doing a little massage. About once every week or two I pump using a large combination cylinder, long enough to stretch the scrotum to 15" or so. Afterwards I give things a break, usually not going back to the tension regimen until the next day.
    Note that your choice of underwear is an important factor is this process. The best choice is no underwear; nothing to interfere with the hanging and tension of the scrotum package. This can be somewhat obvious in public, and thus sometimes isn't very desireable- that's a judgement call. Next choice is boxer shorts, to leave things as free as possible. Jockey or close-fitting briefs defeat your efforts. To a degree, the fit of your trousers can do the same. You may wish to go to a full cut rather than a standard cut in the same size to get some extra room in the crotch.
    Finally: IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT to realize that you MUST NOT cut off circulation with any device or practice! To do that will cause permanent injury! This is a gentle process, done with patience rather than power. If your balls are turning blue, something is too tight, and must be loosened or removed!!! This is especially important if you wear any device overnight, where it's possible for circulation loss to occur without your being aware of it. A little discomfort is normal- but pain is an indicator of excess, as is loss of normal color. Unless you are reckless and ignore this advice, it's unlikely you will have any problems. Otherwise, take note- Continuing pain is an indicator that you have severely injured yourself, and should see your doctor ASAP! If you are thinking "If a little tension is good, a lot must be better" you should remember... that doctor is going to ask you "Just exactly what have you been doing to your balls?"
    If in doubt about the safety of your process, back off. Use common sense, and above all - be gentle, these are the family jewels!

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    Guide to Ball and Scrotum Stretching







    What is Ball Stretching?
    Ball stretching should always be done with care. Some guys have a "high ball sac" others hang like pendulums. Many guys prefer the lower hanging ones to make their penis look larger and enjoy the feeling of having their balls gently weighted, stretched and pulled.

    Ball Stretchers can be used at any time of day or high to effectively stretch the scrotal sacs, many men like to experience their balls hanging low and over a period of time this can be easily and effectively achieved. For starters to stretching we recommend a simple leather collar, if a man is looking for faster results the addition of weight with Split Collar Rings means even faster, better results.

    Leather Ball Stretchers

    Leather Ball Stretchers come in a variety of sizes and designs. A basic model is just a simple leather strap with snap fastenings. These can be difficult to size unless the fastenings are adjustable. Look for good quality leather, the collar snaps around the testicles so that it keeps them pulled down. We recommend that a newcomer starts with the smallest collar first (usually about 1 inch in length) and as the balls stretch, change to a deeper collar for a danglier dangle. The leather should always be comfortable, Maxhim prefers the lace up variety, the leather is soft and supple, with just the right amount of support for effective stretching, and with the lace up facility it means that the stretcher can be easily adjusted for a comfortable fit on the diameter, there should be no pinching or squeezing.

    Steel Rings

    Naturally weighty, steel rings increase the pull downward. They come in a variety of sizes and by using several cock rings together a man can effectively add to the stretch and the weight at the same time. There is a technique to using these rings, as the rings are fixed, it is necessary to feed the scrotal skin through the ring first, followed by the testes. Because the rings are a fixed size a man needs to get the correct size through which to fit his testicles, too small and he won't get them through, too big and they may just slip off. Currently because of the sizing issues surrounding solid steel cock rings, Maxhim do not offer these for sale, preferring to offer the far superior, Split Collar Rings known as the Steel Ball Stretcher,.

    Split Collar Rings

    Split Collar Rings also known as Steel Ball Stretchers, vary in weight and are by far the best quality type of ball stretching rings we offer. They are somewhat advantageous over steel rings because the ring splits in half and is applied around the testicles and secured by the two screws that are tightened by the allen key (supplied), so sizing is a lot easier and more comfortable. The heavy weight of them also helps to add to the stretch.
     
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    I got a 1.5" and a 2" to start. I put on the 1.5" and it was too loose so I put on the 2". I think it was about 2-3 months of stretching before I moved up to the 3". I have been wearing the 3" for a while (about 6-7 months) the past month or so I have been putting on a 3.5" (1.5" + 2") for a few hours every day, just to condition my self to it. Yesterday was the first day I wore the 3.5" for more than 2 hours, I wore it for about 7-8 hours.

    In the article I posted earlier their is information on how to measure. Please read the article in its entirety before you start. I know it is long but it is extremely helpful and will tell you almost everything you need to know. Also the information posted by lineok03 is great.

    I started with leather because it was cheaper for me and more convenient. It really will depend on personal preference and available cash. In the article it will tell you how to measure for weights and leather so you will know what to start with.

    Hope this helps and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
     
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    Does all the metal weight have same diameter?
     
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    For some reason, my sack between my peen and my nuts is really thick, so I had a lot of trouble finding rings on toy sites that I could fit into. I found this site:
    McMaster-Carr
    and was able to buy the exact fit I needed.
     
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    I posted a few new pics of me wearing the rings I got from this place.
     
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    Thanks for providing this link. I wonder if they realize that so many guys use these as ball weights.

    I like the stuff at secretleather.com but it just seems like they're awfully expensive. The McMaster site doesn't list the weight of these, which makes it difficult to know which one to buy, but the cost on some of these are 1/10th that of secretleather.com and other sites.

    Since you've ordered from them, any tips on which to go with?
     
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    I recently made the decision to stretch my sac. My girlfriend and I were always into bondage and we played a little with tying my sac with soft ropes. So it was natural for me to use ropes on a daily basis to start the stretching. Really can't keep the ropes on too long though. So, before I even found the LPSG site, I ordered two split collars from Mcmaster-Carr. And then I found this post - lol. Anyway, I had ordered two. I got the chrome plated ones so that I wouldn't have to worry about the steel rusting or oxidizing. I got the 1.75" and 2" inner diameter collars. The total shipping weight was 2 lbs, so, I guess you can say the 1.75 is just under one lb and the 2" just over one lb.

    They do have them in raw steel (I don't recommend these), zinc plated, chrome plated and two types of stainless steel.

    I'm finding it easer to put the 2" collar on right now. But need to use a sock to make it fit just a little better. The 1.75" is too small at the moment. But I can tell when I stretch out a little, I'll be able to use both.

    You will have to determine the right size for you. Everyone is different.

    BTW, at Mcmaster, they were about $16 each. At adult toy sites, the exact same collars, are being sold for about $50 each. I liked the ones that were "rounded" off at the specialty sites, but at over $100, they just didn't seem worth it.
     
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