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Ok. I followed the thread on scrotum stretching. But it seems most start off with a leather ball strap. But since mine are are high and tight, I will be required to stretch the sack for a period of time before and can get to the leather strap and hopefully a ball weight. For those that have gone thru this starting with really tight small balls, how long did the manual stretching take to get to the point of a leather wrap fitting proper? I'm getting my info from here: Secretleather ball stretching specialists