Banned question

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by justmeincal, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. justmeincal

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    I have noticed that some people's avators have the words "I was banned!" underneath them. What's this all about? Are they actually banned and yet still able to post? Just wondering.
     
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    You can be "banned" for a number of reasons, most of which are explained in the Terms Of Service (TOS). Being underage, "trolling", excessive disrespect toward other members are just a few examples. Once you are "banned", you are able to visit the site and read threads, etc., but no longer permitted to post or participate in any way. "Bans" can be temporary, with the duration of ban decided by a panel of moderators, and some bans are permanent. Some previous "banned" members have attempted to gain access to LPSG by setting up new accounts, and usually it's only a matter of time before they are caught and banned again. Hope this helps explain things a bit.
     
  3. novice_btm

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    Um, it could be just me, but it seems a bit odd that you've been here since 2005, and don't know what a banning is. :confused:
     
  4. madame_zora

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    He only has 31 posts, so he isn't here a lot.

    Also, once someone is banned, the "I was banned" flag will appear on all their posts, so you'll see them especially on older threads.
     
  5. agnslz

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    No, it's not just you that finds it a little odd! To add to what Hatched said, the banned person no longer has the ability to even log in to the site anymore, which means that they can no longer view or use certain features of the site. They can still read the vast majority of the content of the site as a guest, but they can't view attachments or view certain forums.
     
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    Such obsequiousness. Why don't we just crucify them; some people love to join a lynching mob.
     
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    I know who's first on my list. Do you ever have anything to post that is not dripping with rancid derogatory venom?
     
  8. B_big dirigible

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    Members get banned. In most cases, nobody seems to know why. When we peóns ask what's up with that, the best we'll usually get is some vague reference to the "flow" of the board - whatever that means - unless we're ignored entirely. It's really very odd.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up, Dirge.

    See, in reality it just lottery based. Your number comes up and, poof, banned!:rolleyes:
     
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    Oh, shit!:eek:

    ***hides in closet*** :wall:
     
  11. B_big dirigible

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    I'm counting on that.

    It's even more exciting than taking a number at the deli.
     
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    As an experiment, the next few times you see the Banned! message under a poster's avatar click on their name and select the option to read more of their posts. In many cases you can see from their most recent posts where they have been posting material not appropriate for the site or blatantly trolling or spamming. If you don't see hints in their post history for a cause it's usually a relatively safe bet they were underage or were using a second identity.
     
  13. novice_btm

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    Oh, c'mon, with your charming demeanor toward the Mods, I'm sure when YOU ask, they spill all of the juicy tidbits. :kiss:
     
  14. MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK

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    Or in the case of Double Meat Whopper, he faked his death, & made a miraculous recovery.
    Or in the case of Spladle, he at the very end was wishing another poster to die.
     
  15. crescendo69

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    I would hope not to get randomly banned, like an expendable character on a "Star Trek" away mission - "He's dead, Jim".
     
  16. B_big dirigible

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    No, they clam up and circle the wagons. Or they would, if they weren't already clammed up. I have never had a useful answer to any mod-type question. So as long as I'm not going to get an answer, I might as well be testy when I ask. At least that way I get something out of it, even if it isn't anything much.
     
  17. Pecker

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    On the other hand, drive-by bannings require no explanation. :BoomSmilie_anim:
     
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    What'd they do, toss the newest and most expendable of the moderators into the ravenous maw of the implacable BD? How .... heroic. Well then, on to business.

    And speaking as a relative n00b (let's see, July 2006 - yep, a veritable graybeard), your assertions of what never has and never will be done lack a certain gravitas. My requests for perfectly reasonable information predate your advent. Do you recall the incidents leading to the formation of the original Mod Squad?

    You are correct about the "have never" part. The "Code of Silence" has been a problem since the beginning. But that's hardly a justification for its continuation. It remains an affront to the membership of a board otherwise conspicuous for its general openness.

    You've "explained" nothing. You offer little but airy generalizations. I'm interested in specific answers when the question is specific, and general answers when the question is general. What is the super-secret information you don't want to give out? Who do you think you are, eBay?

    Yes, and it's not relevant. I have no idea which are "decent people", and no intentions of making such evaluations. Nobody's asking for anyone's life story, or an evaluation of their worth rendered from On High, or anything except a specific "that the h---'s this about"? A simple question. Lacking simple answers, we peóns have to come up with our own theories. And we do. It would be overoptimistic to assume that those theories are flattering to the mods or their dedication to their work.

    Hence the questions. You know, the ones which are never answered.

    There it is - the inherent fallacy. "Forced to ban". I don't buy it. Did some guy plant a bomb in the host's datacenter, planning to set it off by posting a trigger word here? That would constitute a "force to ban" situation. Anything short of that is a "choice" to ban. And choices should be both justifiable, and justified.

    Like it or not, evidence to the contrary has been accumulating. The mods aren't talking, but when I post things like this, I get PMs from other members, and they don't pretend that it's all so mysterious. Of course the banned ones can't send PMs but one of my e-mails is on file. I gather from these that I'm not the only member who thinks that the moderator's attitudes and techniques could use a bit of tuning.

    Of course there are other members, maybe even a considerable majority, who see no problem. We get the usual LPSG suck-up posts from them on occasion. But a few contented moo-ing noises from the herd doesn't mean that there isn't a problem.

    I have no one in mind that I'd want banned. Even the insufferable twerps have their places. And even if I did wish for someone to be banned, I wouldn't agitate for it to be done. Believe it or not, I'm not quite so egotistical as to believe that anyone should be banned on my say-so.

    It's not anger or frustration, it's annoyance. Annoyance at perpetual rudeness. Good questions deserve good answers, not excuses. And it's not at "not always knowing", it's at never knowing.

    Ah, and now the counterattack. Yes, it's my fault, I'm the guy who isn't showing adequate - what? Respect? Abject submission?

    Not gonna happen. Respect must be earned. The evidence for anything much which is actually respectable is slim. We read an occasional bit of self-puffery, about how much work it is, blah blah. Maybe true, maybe not - I see no good reason to accept it on faith. Au contraire, it's the moderators who are showing inadequate respect to the membership. It's the membership which makes a board a success or failure, not the moderators. Although the moderators can ruin a board all by themselves. (No, it hasn't happened here, but I've see it on other boards. As a general observation, it's hardly assailable.)

    And there's nothing snide about pointing out a fact, a fact which you have already conceded - the moderators are simply unresponsive to legitimate inquiries. Fact. The claim of "secret treaties" or whatever falsifies that fact not at all.

    Here's another fact. Although in this case I'm being perfectly fair - citation of relevant facts is rarely otherwise - I'm not generally obsessed with being fair to anyone is isn't being fair to everyone else. And "have never and will never" be.

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    And for our new viewers tuning in, I should point out that this isn't personal. I've never been banned, harrassed, or anything else (except of course ignored, opt. cit.) by any of the LPSG moderators, past or present. [End conspicuous display of fairness]
     
  19. justmeincal

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    Novice, I thought I understood what a banning is. The reason I asked the question is that yesterday there was a post from someone on a thread and his avatar said he was banned. I saw the post 4 hours after he posted. So was just curious. Maybe he got banned between the 4 hours he posted and I saw the post.
     
  20. madame_zora

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    I actually had a PM in my inbox that said "I was banned" by the time I read it. Usually if it happens that fast, I assume they were underage. Those bans take no time at all.
     
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