Banned Teens

[B_caneadea]

As far as I understand the law, which might not be great, nudity is not porn but sexual contact is.

An effective way to cover our asses and yet keep our doors open to the minors that we all agree could use the support aspect is to restrict images of sexual contact to the gallery and post a page where one must agree by clicking that they are 18 years of age or more and therefore legal to view materials containing sexual content. I'd be happy to gank one from another site if you'd like so we could adjust it for use here.

I think the coversations here are usually far superior to the advice they might get from other sources.

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My dear,
I fear that you're just talking to the wall.
A guy took over a bar where I used to go on weekends. The new owner asked for everybody's input and insisted that "this is your bar". Well, when it came down to it, the bastard had his own ideas of what the bar should be. He regularly pissed off people to the point that you could have thrown a bowling ball through the place with no danger of hitting anybody! And, not surprisingly, the bar closed.
Sound familiar?

 

[D_Elijah_MorganWood]

But both are delicious!

I'll never understand why a boy who HAS a big semi-hard cock would be damaged by seeing one, but I do understand the laws and the idiots in our government who are trying to enforce them.

HOWEVER, butts are shown on television, I don't think they can be considered pornographic.

I LOVE Kinkguy's buttcrack, holy jocks and big bulge avatars, I say press the rules to the breaking points.

OK, let's rewind. I love a great ass, big cock and whatever else someone would like to put into their avatars. The problem is that if we don't watch ourselves re:underage members, we've got a mess on our hands. Do we want 75 year-old beaurocrats from Georgia deciding if something is sexual or not? I guess working with teens gave me a whole new perspective. My point before was that it's easy in the age of the internet to get nabbed as a sexual predator. Too easy.

Now that Rob E has laid down the law about underage members, put all the asses, tits and cum spurting cocks you'd like in the avatars, I could care less. I happen to like Kink's avatars and would like to se Lex's ass in his again.

 

[B_caneadea]

Somebody please tell me how naked pictures or even sex videos are harmful to anyone.

It took a long time but the "church lady" has finally won.
"Isn't that special!"

Next memo:
"the color red will no longer be allowed because it's the color of Satan."
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[D_Elijah_MorganWood]

Somebody please tell me how naked pictures or even sex videos are harmful to anyone.

It took a long time but the "church lady" has finally won.
"Isn't that special!"

Next memo:
"the color red will no longer be allowed because it's the color of Satan."
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That's what NAMBLA says. I'm hardly church lady (although sometimes I do my superior dance).

I'm just not for mixing teens with adult sexuality. Period.

As for nudity in Avatars, whip it out, you're HOT!

As for the rest of this, I've stated my case. I'm done.

 

[fratpack]

thank you to caneadea and others who have appreciated my avatar. I find it hard to believe that the sight of three frat bros naked bodies, back view mind you not front, is that offensive. This site I thought would be supportive of all, non judgemental and provide a bit of lightheartedness in this crazy world.
The fact that nudity is offensive to some on this sight is mindboggling to me.
Yet we have the violent avatar of RideRocket, a subject of its own thread (and his explanation of it, which is fine)and the nightmarish avatar of Dr. Rock. Now anyone on the receiving end of a beating will tell you that RideRocket's avatar provides a very unsettling flashback. and Dr. Rocks, well just nightmare's. Now these are not personal attacks on both of these members, I respect both their opinions. These are my own comments on them and yet I live with it and get over it and go on.
So once again in this country violence triumphs over the naked form. Interesting.

 

[RideRocket]

Yet we have the violent avatar of RideRocket, a subject of its own thread (and his explanation of it, which is fine)and the nightmarish avatar of Dr. Rock. Now anyone on the receiving end of a beating will tell you that RideRocket's avatar provides a very unsettling flashback. and Dr. Rocks, well just nightmare's. Now these are not personal attacks on both of these members, I respect both their opinions. These are my own comments on them and yet I live with it and get over it and go on.
So once again in this country violence triumphs over the naked form. Interesting.

The funny thing is though, it's a clip from the movie 'Office Space' where one of the characters is beating up the fax machine he has come to hate. It's supposed to be humorous as he 'exacts his revenge' on the technology that has enslaved him. But, to those who have not seen the movie, I can see the violent (mis)interpretation.

On a side note, I like to change around my avatars on occasion anyway, just adds to the fun!

 

[Dominik20]

I really want to know why so many people think Teens shouldn't see other nude people. Thats so rediculous..because there is nothing dangerous at a nude man or woman. Better take care that your kids don't play brutal video games or watch brutal things on tv. Thats what you should take care of.
nude people are just nature and nothing to hide.
No wonder that so many people later have sex complexes.


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I'm still debating whether or not I feel teens should be banned. On one hand, I think they should have a place for open discussion about things, but I do think that there needs to be some moderation of what sort of things they can access.

I for one don't think that minors should be able to access the gallery, which also leads to the discussion of avatars. Nudity in avatars used to be prohibited. The board can be accessed by anyone, even a lurker, without signing in, so a teen would be able to read the board and see avatars, so should nudity be prohibited there?

There are lots of issues that need to be discussed before the kids just get booted off. I know it's a difficult issue for Rob and I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

Personally, I wish that I had a place like this to discuss some of the issues I had when I was 15 or 16, being raised by a single mother (a widow) and not really wanting to ask her questions about sex and stuff. Being an only child, I didn't have any brothers to go to, either.

Isn't there some way that the teens and non-paying members can have limited access or funtions to maybe just Meet and Greet, Young and Hung, and Etc., Etc. and the Journals?

 

[prepstudinsc]

thank you to caneadea and others who have appreciated my avatar. I find it hard to believe that the sight of three frat bros naked bodies, back view mind you not front, is that offensive. This site I thought would be supportive of all, non judgemental and provide a bit of lightheartedness in this crazy world.
The fact that nudity is offensive to some on this sight is mindboggling to me.
Yet we have the violent avatar of RideRocket, a subject of its own thread (and his explanation of it, which is fine)and the nightmarish avatar of Dr. Rock. Now anyone on the receiving end of a beating will tell you that RideRocket's avatar provides a very unsettling flashback. and Dr. Rocks, well just nightmare's. Now these are not personal attacks on both of these members, I respect both their opinions. These are my own comments on them and yet I live with it and get over it and go on.
So once again in this country violence triumphs over the naked form. Interesting.

I don't find nudity offensive, what I find offensive is a close up of a nasty hairy butt avatar or a close up of a rotted out jockstrap. I don't find it beautiful, I don't find it erotic, I don't find it remotely anything, except gross.
The models in Fratpacks avatar look like sculptures that one would find in a museum, and while I don't find them sexually stimulating, I can appreciate the beauty in the human form. Kinkguy's avatar where he is sitting all folded up pretzel-like against a black background is actually a beautiful photo from an art standpoint.

Regarding nudity and teens, I think that since most of the teens using the site are from the USA, and that since the site is owned by a resident of the USA, it most likely falls under the guidelines of US law, which means that most of the time people under the age of 18 can't view naked bodies in print or on screen. I don't think that it's a healthy thing, myself, to shelter people, because it DOES lead to a wierd image problem down the road, but at least for now, we do have to abide with those laws. That's why I think that if there was a way to disallow the teens from the gallery and not allow naked avatars, it would be great.

 

[hungcuriousnc]

I don't know if this is possible, but how about just making all pictures, including the photo gallery and avatars, non-viewable without a paid subscription? That way, you eliminate any under age readers from viewing nude pictures and still allow them to participate in discussions. After all, I agree with prepstud... I didn't have access to this type of discussion when I was growing up, so it may be beneficial for legitimate questions and concerns.

(Of course, when I was 14 the internet was barely accessible to the general public.. so there were technology issues for our generations).

 

[D_Barbi_Queue]

Oh Jeeze, people!!

Fratpack, personally I think your asses are fine. I believe that when Mark had the original rule up, asses were fine, cock or actual holes (butt and vagina) were not. Cocks are "bad enough" but the sexual images are even worse and I would have hoped that members would have more common sense than to include them in there avs. There's at least 3 of those that I can recall....

Those bitching about people wanting to censor nudity in av's: bottom line: It's Illegal!!! That's a decision that society has made, not Rob. Rob does not run the country. If you want Rob to be able to keep this site up and running (ie. not shut down) it's best if we keep nudity from the av or make a front page that says "You must be 18 to enter this site". It's one or the other...you can't have both.

Kink - sorry man, I never adored your hairy crack either, but I suppose it's your perogative to flaunt it. :tongue: :moon:

 

[Freddie53]

It is a sad time to even admit to being sexual at all. Other than for occassional, straight, missionary position intercourse undertaken solely for the purpose of procreation male genitallia is evil and un-christian. Except for the specific purpose of impregnating the subservient female, your penis is horrible and should be regulated and controlled...by the Federal Department of Morality.

Come on Kink, we can do better than that? At puberty when the first semen is produced it can be harvested and the testicles and penis removed with a controlled drain for pissing. Then sex can be totally done away with.

To make sure there is no desire for sex, the clit in women should also be removed like they do in parts of Africa.

Then the harvested sperm could be used appropriately by men who wished to father children with women who wished to carry a baby to term. Perhaps we could breed like we do dogs to make better musicians, sportsman, or assholes to run the government.

Then sex would be totally a thing of the past. In time very few humans would know that there was once a natural and fun way to produce children.

And we could rest easy at night knowing that we had done away with the most horrid thing the world has ever known: sexual desires and sexual activities.

And we wouldn't need this site anymore.

 

[Dr Rock]

Those bitching about people wanting to censor nudity in av's: bottom line: It's Illegal!!! That's a decision that society has made

negative. that's a decision that a handful of vicious thieves and liars has made, and enforced upon society.

I dunno how many times i gotta say this: obeying the law simply because it's the law is an insult to your own human dignity, as well as that of the society in which you live.

 

[Freddie53]

But both are delicious!

I'll never understand why a boy who HAS a big semi-hard cock would be damaged by seeing one, but I do understand the laws and the idiots in our government who are trying to enforce them.

HOWEVER, butts are shown on television, I don't think they can be considered pornographic.

I LOVE Kinkguy's buttcrack, holy jocks and big bulge avatars, I say press the rules to the breaking points.

My dear sweat sister Jana,

You haven't been reading some of the posts very clearly. The PENIS is evil. God didn't create the penis. We don't know how it came to be. Legend says that Satan gave Adam one when he sinned. Maybe the penis was the "fruit in the garden" that Eve made Adam eat. Oh goodness, Adam gave himself a blowjob. No wonder they got kicked out of the garden.

You will need to go to re education classes until you can at last understand that the penis is evil, and ugly. Boys should be taught from an early age how evil and ugly their penis is and how later on they are going to be cursed becasue the horrible thing on their body will grow some more. And that will make them even more evil.

Evil, Jana, Keep thinking evil. God created evil Jana when he created people. And God really messed up when He created a penis for a man. It is God's fault Jana.

Oh my theology changed, Did God create the penis or was it Satan?

I am so confused. Kink is going to reeducation class with us. Apparently we will have a LARGE Class judging by some of the posts here.:guilty::naughty::smirk:

I'm getting excited myself. President Shrub is going to teach the class. Big Dick Chaney is his assistant.

Can I sit next to you in class? Please!:wink::biggrin1::wink:

I agree with you about Kink. But after we get reeducated by the Shrub we won't like those pictures anymore.


My bags are packed. Ready for class. Destination: Cuba. Again.

Best regards Jana,

Freddie

 

[D_Barbi_Queue]

negative. that's a decision that a handful of vicious thieves and liars has made, and enforced upon society.

I dunno how many times i gotta say this: obeying the law simply because it's the law is an insult to your own human dignity, as well as that of the society in which you live.

oh, well by that logic then it's ok for me to go out and rob people, molest children, drive on the wrong side of the road in rush hour traffic, murder whomever I'd like, bomb the local McDonalds b/c they didn't give me enough fries last time I ate there......

what world do you live in?

 

[Freddie53]

But both are delicious!

I'll never understand why a boy who HAS a big semi-hard cock would be damaged by seeing one, but I do understand the laws and the idiots in our government who are trying to enforce them.

HOWEVER, butts are shown on television, I don't think they can be considered pornographic.

I LOVE Kinkguy's buttcrack, holy jocks and big bulge avatars, I say press the rules to the breaking points.

My dear sweat Jana,

Have you not been reading some of the posts here? Don’t you understand that the penis is evil? God didn’t create the penis. Legend has it that in the garden Eve the "fruit of the tree" and Adam took and ate. Oh no, now we have Adam giving himself a blowjob. Now wonder they were kicked out of the garden.:biggrin1:

Keep thinking evil, Jana. Little boys will be taught that their little penis is evil, something to be ashamed of, something to know that as it grows later it will make the boys even more evil.

It was the Satan that created the penis. Yes it was. Adam was given one that day in the garden. And that is the source of all evil in the world.
You, Kink and I have been assigned along with others on this thread to the same reeducation classes modeled after the great education program began by Mao in China. It will be in Cuba. Yes, Cuba again.

President Shrub will direct the class and will be assisted by big dick Chaney. I can hardly wait.

Chaney is taking lots of fluid pills lately to get rid of fluid around his lungs so if Chaney pisses in his pants in class don’t’ giggle. It’s a medical problem. It’s not nice to laugh at people with medical problems.:biggrin1:

Can I sit by you in class? Please. With sugar on top!

Right now I know both you and I think Kink has a cute ass and love that jockstrap photo, but in time we will learn how evil the penis and the ass are.:wink:

Best regards,
Freddie

 

[KinkGuy]

I don't find nudity offensive, what I find offensive is a close up of a nasty hairy butt avatar or a close up of a rotted out jockstrap. I don't find it beautiful, I don't find it erotic, I don't find it remotely anything, except gross.....Kinkguy's avatar where he is sitting all folded up pretzel-like against a black background is actually a beautiful photo from an art standpoint.....

Again, I seem to be the focus of prep's disgust.

All pics preppy finds offensive have been removed. I haven't heard from the Avatar Control Officer (prep) regarding the pic in current use. But will immediately remove said crotch shot if deemed inappropriate by prep.

"nasty hairy butt" There is nothing "nasty" about my hairy butt
"rotted out jockstrap" It is not "rotted out"
"art photo" I removed that one as well because you could faintly see part of my right butt check and the disgusting hair thereon. I didn't want to disgust you further.

 

[B_Danceswithlamps]

Ugh. This thread is insane.

I have said what I believe is right. I don't think teens should be banned. I think bulges and undies are fine. No obstruction to the view, not so much. There is nothing wrong with an ass. You see them all the time on tv. Some polititions faces look like ass...

Point is, even if you aren't a member, a guest could come, their rich father/mother come, and sue us. Not in Rob_E's powers at all.

 

[Dr Rock]

oh, well by that logic then it's ok for me to go out and rob people, molest children, drive on the wrong side of the road in rush hour traffic, murder whomever I'd like, bomb the local McDonalds b/c they didn't give me enough fries last time I ate there......

well, if you wanted to, sure. but bear in mind that that would make you a psychopath.

 

[B_Danceswithlamps]

Some people would do that kind of thing anyway...

 

[B_caneadea]

The only real issue here is CENSORSHIP.
There are some avatars that I find extremely distasteful. That doesn't make it right or wrong, just different. If that is the image you choose to represent you, fine. I can avert my gaze and concentrate on what you have written in your post. And I am more than happy to defend your right to use your choice of avatar.

Didn't Rob E. insist that this is an ADULT site? Isn't that why our teenaged friends were given the boot? If this is an adult site, why are we not allowed to have adult content? Run it like an adult site.
What's next? No gays? No women? No one over 40? No African Americans? The possibilities are endless.

Numerous people here have suggested reasonable, workable solutions.
Will Rob E. impliment them? I say NO.
From day one he has made changes without consulting any of us for input or opinion. Yes, he bought the LPSG. But a hard lesson to learn is that the LPSG still depends on the members for its continued existence.
My bet is that he's one of these people who thinks he knows more than anyone here. I hope he proves me wrong.

If you take away all the wonderful things that make the LPSG a unique, fun, interesting, humorous, and informative place to visit, people will "stay away in droves".

With no one paying for memberships, Rob E has two choices; either take the loss of his ten grand or turn this into a full fledged porn site full of advertisements and trash, which is exactly what many people feared would happen with a new owner. How boring.

I'm usually hopeful and optimistic. But, I see nothing but anger and disappointment among the LPSG members.