Banned Teens

[B_Danceswithlamps]

I'm usually optimistic, but this is like the American Revolution.

PLEASE ROB!!! PUT A STOP TO ALL OF THIS!

 

[PinkSteel]

like it or not it's the internet. I do side more on the banning thing, but this is the internet. Also as many of you can contest, there are under age boys who have large penises. Those who unlike you or I have a place where they can be informed on problems, lifestyles, issues, health, etc.
I would like to see something along the lines of those who are underage having their age at the start of their Alias/Name.

 

[B_caneadea]

like it or not it's the internet. I do side more on the banning thing, but this is the internet. Also as many of you can contest, there are under age boys who have large penises. Those who unlike you or I have a place where they can be informed on problems, lifestyles, issues, health, etc.
I would like to see something along the lines of those who are underage having their age at the start of their Alias/Name.

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EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE STATE THERE AGE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROVE THAT SOMEONE IS OVER 18 YEARS OLD?

 

[B_caneadea]

There is a place for age.

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AND PROOF THAT THAT NUMBER IS THE MEMBERS ACTUAL AGE?

 

[KinkGuy]

Some may not like it. A few may be down right hostile about it. But we have to be realistic and cognoscente of the ugly, ultra conservative world we live in. "They" are looking for any ammunition they can find and honestly, with too many "children" on the forum, regardless of their maturity level, Rob and all of us are sitting ducks. None of us have demonstrated any interest in forming sexual liaisons with these kids, but just reading the material and messages, to say nothing of the gallery; would be a slam dunk in court.

 

[D_Barbi_Queue]

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EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE STATE THERE AGE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROVE THAT SOMEONE IS OVER 18 YEARS OLD?

You can't, but it is a "cover your ass" thing. People who break the rules will do whatever they can if they want something bad enough. As you may or may not have noticed, even though many teens have been banned already, they've signed back up under other screen names....which is a trend tha tI don't really see ceasing any time soon. What's to stop a minor from using their parent's credit card to prove their age? Not much....

But at least an effort has been put forth.

I don't consider it censorship, necessarily...but keeping out of jail and doing what it takes to keep the site from being shut down.

The way I see it, there are really 2 choices:

1. Allow minors to stay, ban nudity from avatars.

2. Kick out all minors, put up a page that requires one to click on that insane little "You must be 18 to enter" link before entering the main site.

 

[B_Danceswithlamps]

Option 2 is an irritation and a bother to the rest of us though... and then if someone sees you enter LPSG, then it looks just as bad as looking for porn.

Measurection, wich is the equivilant of our sister site, has always banned minors, and has never had a revolution. However, that site is much kinder, and more docile.

 

[MsLulu]

I'm cool with whatever the admin/mods decide. Honestly, I really have a hard time commenting as I'm neither male nor 17 years old.

I just want to continue posting and talking to folks. I'm indifferent to avatars as well.

I know this is of no use at all. Hahaha. Sorry!

 

[madame_zora]

Option 2 is an irritation and a bother to the rest of us though... and then if someone sees you enter LPSG, then it looks just as bad as looking for porn.

Measurection, wich is the equivilant of our sister site, has always banned minors, and has never had a revolution. However, that site is much kinder, and more docile.

What Texass described was the way it was before Rob took over though. We had banned nudity in avatars and had to sign in to see the gallery. We did fine with the minors then, I really don't know why it changed.

 

[B_Danceswithlamps]

Yeah. I first read that and said, "What the... We didn't have to click on a "do you want to enter" before rob...". Then I got it.

I don't see why it changed either. Rob banned nudity in avatars again, but it doesn't really seem to be working...

I wish he would just disingage the gallery to everyone, just gold members or whatever, and let the teens back on. It would put this troll to rest! (the issue, not a member. The issue/thread is a troll. OH IAN!! )

 

[Pappy]

I'm sorry if this all comes out a little confusing, bear with me, I'm organizationally challenged.:tongue:

Like Norseman I too have waited a while before I posted in this thread, more from fear than anything else. I've read all the posts, I've weighed the arguments, and I agree with both sides to an extent, although I have a bias towards letting the minors back on. I see Rob_E's position, and agree to the extent that if he's not careful, his ass is on the line.

Now it's true, there are sites where we can go and get "information" if we so seek them. I admit, I'm a member of more than one, and I reguarly post in them, more for the help of others who need any information that I might have the luck to possess. I can't say that I know everything about the penis, although I have lived with one for the last 17 years. That's where this site comes in, I've learned so much here that I could learn anywhere else, and I'm grateful for what this site and it's members have taught me. I try and pass on information to others who have not had the luck of being able to have had this information bestowed upon them by someone who's had the experience, who KNOWS what they're talking about, and I hope I've made a difference as you all have to me.

I hadn't been on this site long before I was booted for nothing wrong except being born slightly well endowed and 10 months too late(Although at some point I had pictures up, but took them down when it was pointed out that it could be bad for this site). However, I had made well over 100 posts(not nearly as many as Spladle, although I think I joined just a bit before him), and had made some friendships over AIM and PM with some of the members. I still IM one frequently, and e-mail another.

I never minded the avatars or the gallery, the avatars were often very nice to look at, and I never went to the gallery, I had no need, if I wanted to see a guy's dick, I'd go look at some porn. I wholeheartedly support my(and all the rest of the "MINORS" readmission onto this site with "restricted privelleges" such as no access to the gallery, and restricted PM's(although I believe we should be able to choose if we want to accept PM's from older members).

I was never once harassed about my age(except for the pic thing, but I'll let that pass, as I agreed about not wanting to get the site in trouble), and any comments made towards me on the forums, well, I have to say they either ammussed me, or I liked them. I never felt like some deer in the cross-hairs of some pedophile's gaze. If I ever felt like that, it would be around my vice principal, he's a pedophile if I've ever met one, who will protect me from him?

I post this knowing that this account will more than likely be deleted and this message erased from this board like a candle in the wind...But I'd still like my thoughts on this matter to be heard and considered, I've been pondering this since I tried to log on Monday morning and to much to my chagrin was unable to.

-The poster formally known as Ayzmo.​

The above post is why the page stating you're 18 won't work. The underage folks will just lie and enter anyway. I enjoy the interaction with the younger folks, but if there is nudity in avatars (which right now there isn't supposed to be any) and gallery access without a disclaimer page like we used to have then I see no way that we can allow them to remain without inviting trouble. And that's not trouble for just Rob E, that's trouble with a capital T for all of us.

 

[panthera]

Whew! I just read through all the posts to this thread. My paws and whiskers, this is an interesting one. I truly hope that my (oftimes strong) opinions have not hurt anyone; I hope what I am about to write will not lead to any further pain.
I left the US many years ago because I had to - I was being persecuted and prosecuted for something I had not done. It took many years and all my money (and a lot more from friends/family) to finally get my name cleared.
Never mind what I didn't do but was blamed for - it was such a non-issue in Europe, and the rest of the civilized world that even if I had done it - and I didn't, it wouldn't have mattered.
I mention this because I have personally experienced the "weight of the law" in the United States. Whatever one may or may not think of Rob, it is absolutely clear that he must not be put at risk of going to prison. Never mind the justice or injustice of the thing - the legal aspects need to be checked and LPSG kept up.
My humble suggestion here is to move the sight to a civilized country, one where it is not illegal to discuss human sexuality.
As to the "teen" problem, I agree with those who say that the problem is not the teens. At the same time, I do feel (maybe my professional training as a teacher?) that we, as adults, have an active responsibility to protect these no-longer-children-not-yet-adults from sexual preditors. An active responsibility to provide them with a positive, open forum about sex, sexuality and all the other "difficult" aspects of being human.
There are some sights on the internet - www.solotouch.com comes to mind, which seem to have resolved some aspects of these problems. I don't think their approach would be appropriate to LPSG, but it does show that there are ways to cope with the facist/christian/republicans running your country.
I don't mind answering questions from 15 year old kids on sex and sexuality. I don't want them looking at pictures of my penis, nor do I want to engage in a sexually stimulating discussion with them. I have no solutions to offer here, but the moment I have to provide "proof of identity" to access LPSG I am so out of here. Not a threat, but "once burned, twice shy."
Oh, one last rave and rant - I liked the hairy-ass avatar. Lighten up folks - heavens, 20 years ago I looked good enough that I was a model for sculpture. Today I look like a slum-clearance project in the worst phases....but have kept my sense of humour. Something many folks around here could use.

 

[KinkGuy]

Panthera,
Sorry you had to leave. Happy that you got out. It is getting worse by the hour. The opressive, heavy handed methods of "our" Government regarding the citizenry, combined with the complete lack of regulation if it involves business, money and power I feel, is threatening, ominous and soon disastrous.

 

[Pappy]

I really don't think anyone has a problem with the teens being here aside from the possible legal ramifications. Folks this is one thing we all need to keep in mind, if the RIAA can track people by their IP address then so can the government. I personally don't want to be arrested for posting a reply on here about how big a minors penis might or might not end up being. Nor do I want to see this happen to anyone else that posts here.

As for nudity in avatars, until we get an entry page or something better that restricts access to the actual forum(if you're not a member)until you've signed in, we need to work with Rob E and just give the man some time to work things out and cover his ass.

 

[KinkGuy]

Exactly, Pappy. Remember though, I get you in my jail cell.

 

[Pappy]

Promise Kink?? Promise??

 

[Grower]

The above post is why the page stating you're 18 won't work. The underage folks will just lie and enter anyway. I enjoy the interaction with the younger folks, but if there is nudity in avatars (which right now there isn't supposed to be any) and gallery access without a disclaimer page like we used to have then I see no way that we can allow them to remain without inviting trouble. And that's not trouble for just Rob E, that's trouble with a capital T for all of us.

Am I wrong when I say that pages like that cover the asses of most in similar endeavors?

Why will a disclaimer on the gallery entrance work any better than exactly what you're saying WON'T work in this very paragraph? (If I understand what you're saying)

Personally, I want covered asses (In the CYA sense, not yours kinkguy.), no pedophiles or predators, and teens who feel that they have a burning need to get information that we have here to be able to get it.

At this point I think we may be getting close to two out of three.

Any measure that will absolutely, positively keep teens out of this forum will keep me out as well.

I really don't think anyone has a problem with the teens being here aside from the possible legal ramifications. Folks this is one thing we all need to keep in mind, if the RIAA can track people by their IP address then so can the government. I personally don't want to be arrested for posting a reply on here about how big a minors penis might or might not end up being. Nor do I want to see this happen to anyone else that posts here.

As for nudity in avatars, until we get an entry page or something better that restricts access to the actual forum(if you're not a member)until you've signed in, we need to work with Rob E and just give the man some time to work things out and cover his ass.

Well, that's a damn reasonable position.

 

[panthera]

Definitely agreee: Until we have proof that Rob is a "bad guy", we need to give him a break. Sheesh, he hasn't pulled any of my comments, so he can't be THAT bad.
Thanks for the heads up, it is "site", not "sights". Sigh. My spell-checker is older than I am.

 

[b.c.]

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[Katiecav_34D]

I think that the teens should be let back in, since most of them are only a year or two different from me. A lot of them might need to talk with some of you guys who have had the same problems they might be dealing with. As to porn if they really want porn all you have to do is turn on your comp and shut yours eyes and click and you can find a porn site so I don't really think you are protecting them from porn by kicking them out
Katie