Barack Obama, Staying the Course

[StormfrontFL]

What laws would that be? Say, Affirmative Action?

What racism in voting? The election of BHO twice? Or the vitriol your set splashes on the likes of Ben Carson, who is technically 100% more black than Obama?

You can't be so dense that you think that the election and reelection of Obama means racism is a thing of the past. Do the usual suspects who so often run to your defense or aid agree with you?

The vitriol directed at Ben Carson is actually directed at the things he says. All the things he rails against, he benefited from. He has "made it" so all the rest be damned. If he spoke out against racism it's a sure bet all our usuals who champion him would scream race hustler but as long as he speaks from their playbook he is alright in their eyes.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Really? Are you speaking for everyone here? You may need to clarify the difference between anti-black and racism. You wouldn't get that impression here from the usual suspects here who blame every incident, including Thomas Duncan, the Ebola patient who recently died, on accusations of racism (anti-black?), now in our medical profession. You would think that the entire non black population is anti black, at least from their POV.

By the usual suspects do you mean those who rightly wonder why you believe that 97 % of blacks voted according to race? Do you mean those who wonder why you first accuse black celebs and athletes of not doing anything positive but then turn around when asked about white celebs and say that celebs can't really do anything and so are to be excused?

 

[deleted213967]

I get it now (through the dense fog):

A. Criticizing the POTUS, who happens to be 50.00% black, for what he says and does is racism...

B. Criticizing Dr. Ben Carson for what he says and does is not racism but only vitriol-splashing at what this pediatric neurosurgeon "rails against".

 

[StormfrontFL]

I get it now (through the dense fog):

A. Criticizing the POTUS, who happens to be 50.00% black, for what he says and does is racism...

B. Criticizing Dr. Ben Carson for what he says and does is not racism but only vitriol-splashing at what this pediatric neurosurgeon "rails against".

A. Picking actions done by every former President and saying it's okay but finding fault with the current President for doing the exact same things gives the appearance of racism.

B. Collecting food stamps and welfare as well as benefiting from affirmative action and then speaking out against them once you no longer need them is why Dr. Carson is not loved by the black community. Ben Carson is hated because of his race but because of what he says.

C. Pretending that the election of Obama proves no racism exists as well as excusing the blatant hatred within your Party proves you're completely deluded

 

[Klingsor]

I get it now (through the dense fog):

A. Criticizing the POTUS, who happens to be 50.00% black, for what he says and does is racism...

B. Criticizing Dr. Ben Carson for what he says and does is not racism but only vitriol-splashing at what this pediatric neurosurgeon "rails against".

It is possible to criticize either man without or without racism. That said, their situations are different.

The first black president of the United States occupies an elevated, conspicuous position, and as such he has been a lightning rod for racism, apart from anything he says or does.

Dr. Carson holds no such lofty position; he becomes conspicuous and provokes reactions almost entirely by his pronouncements.

 

[b.c.]

It is possible to criticize either man without or without racism. That said, their situations are different.

The first black president of the United States occupies an elevated, conspicuous position, and as such he has been a lightning rod for racism, apart from anything he says or does.

Dr. Carson holds no such lofty position; he becomes conspicuous and provokes reactions almost entirely by his pronouncements.

QFT. And if one examined the number of blatantly (and not so blatant) racist references, remarks, depictions, and "dog whistle" terminology that have been directed at Obama and his family, and compared them to those (IF any) directed at Carson, the difference would be quite EVIDENT.

 

[StormfrontFL]

QFT. And if one examined the number of blatantly (and not so blatant) racist references, remarks, depictions, and "dog whistle" terminology that have been directed at Obama and his family, and compared them to those (IF any) directed at Carson, the difference would be quite EVIDENT.

Carson is hardly ever mentioned by blacks.He's not mentioned much by whites either. The only ones who seem to take his utterances as gospel are the usual suspects on here. Well then again he speaks out against other blacks so I guess he's a "real conservative" but heaven help him if he goes off script.

 

[b.c.]

A. Picking actions done by every former President and saying it's okay but finding fault with the current President for doing the exact same things gives the appearance of racism.

B. Collecting food stamps and welfare as well as benefiting from affirmative action and then speaking out against them once you no longer need them is why Dr. Carson is not loved by the black community. Ben Carson is hated because of his race but because of what he says.

C. Pretending that the election of Obama proves no racism exists as well as excusing the blatant hatred within your Party proves you're completely deluded

Odd, isn't it, how they try to condemn the black community for rejecting people such as Carson ON THE BASIS OF ISSUES (how can THAT be, when according to them WE base it all on race?)

yet

the only blacks they seem to EMBRACE are those who (by virtue of his/her race) SERVE to legitimize conservative and sometimes anti-minority ideology - and all other black leaders/spokespersons, worthy of nothing more than their utter CONTEMPT.

Carson is hardly ever mentioned by blacks.He's not mentioned much by whites either. The only ones who seem to take his utterances as gospel are the usual suspects on here. Well then again he speaks out against other blacks so I guess he's a "real conservative" but heaven help him if he goes off script.

Like Powell. Typical, isn't it???

 

[deleted213967]

Carson is hardly ever mentioned by blacks.He's not mentioned much by whites either. The only ones who seem to take his utterances as gospel are the usual suspects on here. Well then again he speaks out against other blacks so I guess he's a "real conservative" but heaven help him if he goes off script.

...says the clique who will vilify any minority leader who dares deviate one iota from the victimization dogma of the hard left.

 

[b.c.]

^ "victimization" - (n) dog whistle terminology attributed to those who recognize and call out discrimination, racism, and racist ideology; a term often bandied about by bigots, apologists for such, and other assorted right winged loons. (see "race card")

 

[StormfrontFL]

...says the clique who will vilify any minority leader who dares deviate one iota from the victimization dogma of the hard left.

Says the one who believes that all complaints of racial bias are imagined and a thing of the past.Bet you also thought slavery wasn't that bad because it gave work to blacks:tongue:

Noticed that you still have yet to weigh in on the Republican anti gay agenda. Hard to justify being99% gay and having to hide it. I guess that's the 1%

 

[Dynmk]

When it is gone, my bank account will rest much easier. Sorry, but the people who love an idiot like this are people who have never worked for what thay have. They expect someone like Obama to take away from me and give to them to make it "fair". My money is all off shore and I can join it in an instant if need be.

 

[deleted213967]

It is possible to criticize either man without or without racism. That said, their situations are different.

The first black president of the United States occupies an elevated, conspicuous position, and as such he has been a lightning rod for racism, apart from anything he says or does.

Dr. Carson holds no such lofty position; he becomes conspicuous and provokes reactions almost entirely by his pronouncements.

Let's see:

Since white voters represent roughly 70% of the electorate, Obama could not have possibly made it to the White House (twice) if most of them had been wicked wicked "racists".

Obama's approval rating now stands at a dismal 30% with white voters (over 60% for non-white voters).

So what changed since the halcyon days of the Greek columns and Hopey Changey?

Did Obama's racial makeup suddenly mutate?

Did white voters turn racist overnight?

Could it be that Obama's actions (or lack thereof) bred discontent?

 

[deleted15807]

What's even crazier is those who defend and dismiss bigoted anti gay GOP legislation while trying to take black people to task on prop 8.

Talk about GOT a f*king nerve.

Pathetic.

Defend and dismiss the GOP anti-gay/hate agenda while being gay. As I said before their hate exceeds their own self-esteem which clearly must be shit. With that in mind it's very very easy to become a steaming pile of shit yourself. This kind of person is beyond rehabilitation without years of work with a professional and is to be ignored and booed. Just as they would be at a GOP convention should they date acknowledge what they are.

 

[b.c.]

Let's see:

Since white voters represent roughly 70% of the electorate, Obama could not have possibly made it to the White House (twice) if most of them had been wicked wicked "racists".

Obama's approval rating now stands at a dismal 30% with white voters (over 60% for non-white voters).

So what changed since the halcyon days of the Greek columns and Hopey Changey?

Did Obama's racial makeup suddenly mutate?

Did white voters turn racist overnight?

Could it be that Obama's actions (or lack thereof) bred discontent?

MORE spin and outright fiction. First of all, Obama in 2012 only had 39% of the white vote in the FIRST place (43% in 2008 - see attached chart).

Obama WON due to overwhelming support from minorities, including black, Hispanics, and Asians, combined with that 39% white vote.

Secondly, YOU are the one making these allegations of most white voters/people being "wicked racists". WE said nothing of the sort.

What we DID say was racism is alive and well, and that it has been a factor in some of the criticism and opposition he's ALWAYS faced.


Further, In post no. 113 of this very same thread, I've posted poll data that clearly demonstrated a racial divide in the public's perception of Obama, on several issues, to which someone suggested that in doing so, I was playing the "race card".

I merely presented the poll RESULTS, like them or NOT.

So please get your facts straight before posting b.s.

 

[Klingsor]

^^^ I'd say that covers it pretty well.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Let's see:

Since white voters represent roughly 70% of the electorate, Obama could not have possibly made it to the White House (twice) if most of them had been wicked wicked "racists".

Obama's approval rating now stands at a dismal 30% with white voters (over 60% for non-white voters).

So what changed since the halcyon days of the Greek columns and Hopey Changey?

Did Obama's racial makeup suddenly mutate?

Did white voters turn racist overnight?

Could it be that Obama's actions (or lack thereof) bred discontent?

Only an idiot sees everything in absolutes. Since some white voters supported Obama there is no more racism? Hell, even one of your crew admitted that some white voters who usually supported the Dem turned away rather than vote for a black candidate.

 

[deleted213967]

Only an idiot sees everything in absolutes. Since some white voters supported Obama there is no more racism? Hell, even one of your crew admitted that some white voters who usually supported the Dem turned away rather than vote for a black candidate.

Says the shrill Obamabot functionally incapable of deviating 1 iota from the leftist PC orthodoxy...

When did anyone say that racism has been eradicated from American life?

...and incidentally, where are the threads on black-vs-brown racism? brown-vs-black? Asian-vs-Black? etc.

Anywhere?

Being an "idiot" I can't find many of them on LPSG...

 

[StormfrontFL]

Says the shrill Obamabot functionally incapable of deviating 1 iota from the leftist PC orthodoxy...

When did anyone say that racism has been eradicated from American life?

...and incidentally, where are the threads on black-vs-brown racism? brown-vs-black? Asian-vs-Black? etc.

Anywhere?

Being an "idiot" I can't find many of them on LPSG...

Nice but no cigar. Every time someone has made a claim about racism still existing here you come with "if racism still existed there is no way Obama would have gained the white vote not once but twice".So the one claiming racism is a thing of the past is you. Domisildo. He who hate himself so much he embraces anti gay policy. Whatever you call yourself these days.

Keep trying to change the subject because you have no defense and your usual tricks are played out

 

[deleted213967]

MORE spin and outright fiction. First of all, Obama in 2012 only had 39% of the white vote in the FIRST place (43% in 2008 - see attached chart).

You didn't attach any chart, but I did find the results and...

I sit corrected.

I already knew about the overwhelming support from minorities O received in both 2008 and 2012, but somehow I had a higher number in mind for white voter support.

I likely conflated local results with national results.

Those numbers seem to mesh well with some analyses at the time. They pointed out that Reagan himself would have lost the election if the racial makeup of the US population had been that of 2012 in his time...and by the same token Romney would have won the election had the racial makeup of 2012 been the same as that of 1988.