The bath house I went to,
the River Street Club, was very clean. I was actually impressed with how clean it was. The was staff constantly going about cleaning. It's actually a nice place.
Originally Posted by [B said:
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]What you don't seem to understand is that there are more straight people in this world than gay people. In order for gays to get more rights and more respect, it's up to them to step up to the plate and show the world that they're more than just sex acts. Being closeted is no reason to be promiscuous.
Oh I get it. It's up to gays to make themselves into the people you think they ought to be. We should strive to emulate conservative Wonderbread American families because that's what the majority is. We should be ashamed of ourselves otherwise. We should fear that shame because shame is what makes for conformist society. I have to agree with DC_Deep. You're woefully ignorant of not just gay society but your very own. The true American respects the individual rights of others, respects divergent views of behavior and decorum, protects the rights of free speech and free association. We tolerate that which is different from ourselves. We don't shame others into behaving as we think they should just to validate our own values.
If when you look at gay people and all you see are sex acts then you're objectifying people. Once again you worry and ponder, imagine and obsess over what other people are doing in their bedrooms. If all you see when you look at a da Vinci, listen to kd Lang, read Willa Cather, see a Tennessee Williams play, is what the creator of work does (or did) in the bedroom then you're a sorry excuse for a man. It's always been a mystery to me why some people should hate other people simply for their sexual behavior. Now I know why.
A person secure in themselves and their beliefs doesn't go around telling other people to be as they are. The truth is you're dreadfully insecure about your sexuality, your moral choices, and your life. You just can't handle the fact that other adults may make different choices than you do. You need to be validated. I've said before and I'll say it again:
Gays don't give a damn what you think or say about them. You constantly think that gays care what you think. They do not unless you try to interfere with their right to free speech and association. You don't have to love gays, be gay, or have anything to do with them, but the law states you must respect their rights as free adult citizens. So take your shame, you judgment, your holier-than-thou attitude, and tanks of hatred and wallow in them yourself because your right to dictate what anybody does ends at your doorstep.