Benghazi-gate About To Explode

[StormfrontFL]

What I don't get...
What is the difference between the elephant and the donkey?
Both puppets to wall street.
flag waving bullshit.

Yes, both parties cater to Wall Street interests but one party at least puts in some effort to not screw over the poor and middle class.

 

[deleted136887]

'Scuze me....
I was under the impression that american society was classless.
Also I get the impression that the middle class, if they existed ever, had virtually disapeared.
Anyway, my contribution to this thread is peripheral and not really serious.
Now, on to the pussy threads...

 

[balsary]

He doesn't represent all but he does seem to represent all the worst in them. There was a time when conservatives actually seemed to care about what was really happening and were rational but now it seems that the rational ones sit silently at home while the lunatic fringe is out shouting lies and insanity to the rafters. The rational ones wanted facts before forming an opinion but the worst of the bunch could care less about anything that doesn't support their beliefs.

It can also be said that h0ney isn't alone in his beliefs in this forum. How many posts from conservatives or right wingers have already judged Bergdahl and found him guilty before an investigation is even under way?

I agree, the majority of conservative posters in this particular forum display the behavior you describe. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the more reasonable/rational conservatives stay away because of always being stereotyped? There are many conservatives that frequent this site that are capable of intelligent discourse, just as there are many idiot liberals. It would be nice if we could just focus on the content of each other's posts, rather than turning each and every thread into libs vs. cons.

 

[fluoro]

I find it interesting that Ahmed Abu Khattala, one of the instigators of the Benghazi attack who is now in US custody, did an interview with The New York Times in October 2012 in which he claimed the events began with a protest over the video.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...ghazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all

 

[StormfrontFL]

I agree, the majority of conservative posters in this particular forum display the behavior you describe. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the more reasonable/rational conservatives stay away because of always being stereotyped? There are many conservatives that frequent this site that are capable of intelligent discourse, just as there are many idiot liberals. It would be nice if we could just focus on the content of each other's posts, rather than turning each and every thread into libs vs. cons.

The few rational ones that used to post here also had their moments of insanity. A number of them were banned. A few pop in occasionally to add their thoughts while a few others seem to pop in to egg on the loons. I would be shocked to see a rational conservative chime in to call out a fellow conservative when they post something completely inappropriate. They either ignore it or jump in to defend the viewpoint. For example, when a post is made about a GOP official making a completely racist remark the usual response from the right has been that the comment was taken out of context, or that the speaker was stupid to say what he did where he did, or that political correctness is at fault. It would be nice to see one of them actually condemn the remarks. I doubt it'll ever happen because of how the parties are so entrenched.
As for the post which began this tangent, it is clearly the right wing which has already formed it's opinion as to Bergdahl. The left has clearly stated that it's too soon to say definitively what happened and that we should wait until the investigation is complete whereas the right has already declared him guilty of desertion and treason and have called for his death or life imprisonment.

 

[balsary]

I doubt it'll ever happen because of how the parties are so entrenched.

The parties are so entrenched because of statements like the one you made. You've insulted every neocon with one sentence. How on earth does that serve to narrow the gap between the two parties? You say you want to see rational conservatives participate. How about giving them a rational liberal perspective to consider without insulting them?

 

[matt19]

My last post was aimed to counter that someone said obama sent the CIA to the compound. He did not. The CIA went on their own.

Had Obama sent the military and we had lost more lives, my anger would not have been that he sent them in. It would be at our unpreparedness. Don't project your values or opinions on me as though they are my own, please.

Obama made a bad call. Period. then he and his admin have been trying to cover it up ever since. Hillary was negligent on security. Plenty of mistakes to go around.

 

[StormfrontFL]

The parties are so entrenched because of statements like the one you made. You've insulted every neocon with one sentence. How on earth does that serve to narrow the gap between the two parties? You say you want to see rational conservatives participate. How about giving them a rational liberal perspective to consider without insulting them?

Funny coming from you considering your history of lumping anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% into the "enemy" camp. I disagreed with you about one issue in the gun control thread and out came your accusations of me being all for total confiscation of handguns.

For someone whom I consider intelligent you come across as rather stupid to take a statement made to one individual as a condemnation of all. Does one need to always use the word some in order for you to not assume a statement applies to all? If so then please use your oh so righteous ire to tell the conservatives to do the same.

Oh and how many times does one need to see that no matter what erroneous statement is made by a conservative/neocon/TeaPartier another one can usually be counted on to jump in high fiving them for making that statement? The usual argument is that they are just playing devil's advocate but they always tend to defend their "teammate". If the rational conservatives don't like being thought of as just another lunatic then why do they remain silent and allow the fringe to represent them?

Balsary if you want to keep tracking every post by Eric to call him out on his errors then maybe you should do the same with your own posts.

Oh, and why not ask why a lot of liberal people stopped posting here. Could it be that they got fed up with constantly seeing posts full of lies or errors that have already been proven false? Maybe they could no longer stomach trying to present facts to those who have no desire to see anything that contradicts their beliefs?

 

[StormfrontFL]

My last post was aimed to counter that someone said obama sent the CIA to the compound. He did not. The CIA went on their own.

Had Obama sent the military and we had lost more lives, my anger would not have been that he sent them in. It would be at our unpreparedness. Don't project your values or opinions on me as though they are my own, please.

Obama made a bad call. Period. then he and his admin have been trying to cover it up ever since. Hillary was negligent on security. Plenty of mistakes to go around.

So you admit you would have been pissed if we went in unprepared and uninformed but you are now pissed because we didn't go in because we would have been unprepared and uninformed? It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News
Pentagon releases Benghazi timeline, defends response - Chicago Tribune


You want to talk about negligence on security then be honest and stop trying to pin all the blame on Hilary. Saying that plenty of mistakes to go around doesn't cut it when all your anger is directed at the Democrats while the GOP is excused.
GOP cuts to embassy security draw scrutiny, jabs from Democrats | TheHill
Republicans slashed diplomatic security budget, still trying to cut more

 

[Calboner]

From Fox News, where the fringe is the mainstream:

Fox News analyst: Benghazi arrest a conspiracy to help Hillary survive tonight’s Fox interview

“What a great thing to announce on an interview tonight at Fox News, that the perpetrators have been brought to justice,” Hegseth remarked. “It’s all too neat, and it’s too cute. And I want to be grateful, I want to give the benefit of the doubt to our authorities, but in this case it feels too neat on the timeline.”​

Just as Hillary engineered Chelsea's pregnancy to promote her presidential campaign, don't you know?

 

[h0neymustard]

From Fox News, where the fringe is the mainstream:

Fox News analyst: Benghazi arrest a conspiracy to help Hillary survive tonight’s Fox interview

“What a great thing to announce on an interview tonight at Fox News, that the perpetrators have been brought to justice,” Hegseth remarked. “It’s all too neat, and it’s too cute. And I want to be grateful, I want to give the benefit of the doubt to our authorities, but in this case it feels too neat on the timeline.”​

Just as Hillary engineered Chelsea's pregnancy to promote her presidential campaign, don't you know?

When I read that, I was hoping they had arrested Hillary.

 

[Bardox]

When I read that, I was hoping they had arrested Hillary.

Don't give up HM. Keep the faith (insane as it maybe) and continue calling for the arrest of the worlds most famous real-estate lady. DOWN WITH HRC!:rant:

 

[slurper_la]

What will Roger and other conservatives say now that their BS is proven wrong?

Benghazi Suspect Said He Was Moved To Take Revenge For American-Made Video
Benghazi Suspect Said He Was Moved To Take Revenge For American-Made Video

 

[deleted15807]

^ Once again Obama gets his man is the big news. This is terrible news for the #benghazi movement. While they tried so hard to fluff this up, Obama was methodically pursuing justice.

 

[h0neymustard]

You really believe it was the video that set it off.

 

[b.c.]

What will Roger and other conservatives say now that their BS is proven wrong?

Benghazi Suspect Said He Was Moved To Take Revenge For American-Made Video
Benghazi Suspect Said He Was Moved To Take Revenge For American-Made Video

I fear their heads just might implode.

 

[matt19]

yeah, outrage from a you-tube video with less than 100 hits. mmm hmm. That is what inspired an organized attack on a consulate. pffft.

This guy was in plain sight for 2 years. Now he's "apprehended". I swear you couldn't make this stuff up!

 

[Klingsor]

]This guy was in plain sight for 2 years. Now he's "apprehended". I swear you couldn't make this stuff up!

I suspect you just did, but will await a response from those more informed on the topic.

 

[Fuzzy_]

You really believe it was the video that set it off.

At the time of the Benghazi Embassy incident, there were protests throughout the Middle East concerning that inflammatory video. Why would Libya have been an exception?

yeah, outrage from a you-tube video with less than 100 hits. mmm hmm. That is what inspired an organized attack on a consulate. pffft.

That video upset millions of people.

This guy was in plain sight for 2 years. Now he's "apprehended". I swear you couldn't make this stuff up!

Because it wasn't made up.

 

[matt19]

its one thing to try to cast reasonable doubt in order to get off the hook. But if you actually BELIEVE the you-tube video, with less than 100 hits at the time, had anything to do with it then you are beyond reason.