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I did not have time to comment on this post earlier. But I think Bernie is the only one able to answer questions with truth.

I mentioned it here in a thread by another some time ago, I caught a question being asked of him in the tail end of a live interview a few months ago. He was asked if he was a socialist, he answered straight back "do you ask republican candidates whether they are capitalists or fascists"....the interviewer had no comeback, silence ensued for a few moments before he quickly ended the interview.

My respect for the man went up a notch. Plus, anyone that can keep a family secret of those 11 herbs and spices is a person you must be able to trust :)

He pays his own way. With Trump, you guys must have worked out by now how many favours he is going to owe those unseen people, that's how it works in big business. You either scratch backs, or stand on them.

Hopefully you do anyway.
 
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Then again, it would probably go well for Bernie. Because the press these days seem to back one candidate right up to the last moment....then do an about face and back the peoples preference at the last moment just so they do not come across as biased.

The Press, they became so depressing. Then it was changed to Media. Mediation :) :)
 
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The question was fair game as we all agree for a presidential candidate. As for his retort, he should learn from Chris Christe those bites don't play well with the media or the public. Whatever you think, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against the Clinton machine.
 
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The question was fair game as we all agree for a presidential candidate. As for his retort, he should learn from Chris Christe those bites don't play well with the media or the public. Whatever you think, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against the Clinton machine.
Obviously, as most of the world has become aware, it's become more of a succession over there. Obama seems to have been the only interruption, because he was a spell from the previous Bush administration, succession, procession to the presidential throne.

Wow, the US a Republic? Yup, right, ok. Trump will not win. He will not even come close.

Your next Pres will be a Democrat.

The Clinton machine is that. Hillary just wants to get back at Bill by not having sexual elations with that man. Ooops, forgot the 'r' :), yup, she probably smoked as well, but did not exhale :)
 
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Just over five years ago, 12/10/2010, Bernie Sanders talked for 510 minutes straight! He gave an 8.5 hour Speech on the Senate Floor against the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, the proposed extension of the Bush-era tax rates that eventually became law, Essentially, Bernie was saying "Enough is enough! ... How many homes can you own?" The speech is also in book form and can be read in a few hours. After I read it, I signed the online petition encouraging him to run for President.

Regardless of Jjz1109's wishful thinking and opinion of what the media and public like and dislike, if you don't like the answer, then don't ask the question; otherwise, it'll turn into another scripted Press Conference where the guy knows who is going to ask what question, before its asked; making it look like it's spontaneous when it's not.
Besides, "a snowball's chance in hell" is just a flippant cliché believers in that sort of stuff say when ever they really don't know.
One reason for an abundance of "alternative" news sources and a massively successful blogosphere is because of Main Stream Media Credibility increasing incredulity.

The Oligarchy is scared! Bernie is in their face! Look at his website..at the bottom...
PAID FOR BY BERNIE 2016

(not the billionaires)
 
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Why do you think some people hear Bernie identify as a democratic socialist and have such a negative reaction? I like having a 5 day work week. I like social security. Universal health care and the ability to go to college tuition free sound like some seriously bad-ass ideas to me.

Socialism
is a political ideology and movement that seeks to improve society and social conditions. Central to socialist theory is the view that modern social problems, such as poverty and unemployment, result from economic relationships under capitalism, and that action in some form of control or ownership by society should be taken to address them. Both the means and degree of action required however vary considerably, ranging from minor reforms to abandonment of capitalism altogether.[1]

While some writers have claimed socialism had earlier precedents, it is generally thought to have arisen in the early 19th century with the development of industrialization. Utopian socialists, such as Robert Owen in the United Kingdom and Charles Fourier in the United States established cooperative communities. By mid-century, other forms had emerged, such as Karl Marx's revolutionary socialism in Europe and and the cautiously reformist Fabian socialism in the United Kingdom.[2]

The creation of the First International 1864 brought together socialist parties from throughout the developed world and was followed by the growth of trade unions and socialist party memberships and voters.[3] Socialism would later split into several distinct forms, including syndicalism, communism and democratic socialism (or social democracy or simply socialism). Syndicalists saw trade unions as the instruments for achieving change, while communists advocated revolution and democratic socialists advocated limited reforms. Communists achieved power in The Soviet Union in 1917, and subsequently other countries in Eastern Europe and the developing world. Socialists would achieve their greatest success after the Second World War and would form governments, or become major political forces, in most developing nations.[4]
 

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Fox News calls my home country socialist, i do however live in a big house, run a business, drive a new model Merc and i own a general aviation aircraft. Everyone here has affordable quality healthcare, a roof over their heads and the government takes care of everyone in need. If you earn not that much, we've got supplements to pay for rent, care and the needs of your children. Bernie visited our country a few times, and he has taken notes.

Yes I pay a lot of taxes, but my kids get free education, government services are free or cheap and i don't see any homeless people outside of the big cities. Most of them however choose to be on the streets or are live in a squat, most of them are here by train from eastern Europe. If you apply for benefits and need housing, the council wil help. Paying a lot of tax for good social care is better then getting tax cuts you don't need and seeing less fortunate people work 3 jobs to make a home.

Every time i watch Fox News i just don't get how people see it as a source of news. It's the christian right wing nut-case version of the North Korean state broadcast.
 

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I would say that the Nordic Model of social democracy has worked out pretty well in Scandinavia. I sure as hell wouldn't have gotten a master's degree if my parents had to pay tuition. I have no problem with the fact that I will receive medical attention for free should I be in need. And I am thankful that I will get help should I be stricken with an chain of bad luck that would otherwise leave the streets as my only option.

I will gladly pay a very sizable chunk of my paycheck to secure that others have the same opportunities. And I'd gladly pay more than I do right now.
 

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Richard D. Wolff is a good source of info, and he's easy to understand. Subscribe to his YouTube group..in this video, he defines what socialism is at 1:37:51. Preceding this, he describes Gentrification , the "business model" behind the conflict in the Middle East, etc. I haven't watched the December update yet.
 
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I would say that the Nordic Model of social democracy has worked out pretty well in Scandinavia. I sure as hell wouldn't have gotten a master's degree if my parents had to pay tuition. I have no problem with the fact that I will receive medical attention for free should I be in need. And I am thankful that I will get help should I be stricken with an chain of bad luck that would otherwise leave the streets as my only option.

I will gladly pay a very sizable chunk of my paycheck to secure that others have the same opportunities. And I'd gladly pay more than I do right now.

It's nice to have the 'like' button... but we need a 'Love' button for posts like this one.

You kick all the ass Brisler.
 

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The question was fair game as we all agree for a presidential candidate. As for his retort, he should learn from Chris Christe those bites don't play well with the media or the public. Whatever you think, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against the Clinton machine.

Yeah, just ask Obama about that.
 
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You really think all things being equal, obama vs. Bernie?
I believe the sentence in question was, "He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell against.." Back in the day, folks were saying the same about Barak..This isn't about Barak vs. Bernie..Hillary lost to Obama and Hillary will lose to Bernie. Part of Barak's Magic was his brand, his label, He is Black..Most people who voted for him, the first time jumped on the band wagon believing a real change was coming.
Bernie is Bernie!
 
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I believe the sentence in question was, "He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell against.." Back in the day, folks were saying the same about Barak..This isn't about Barak vs. Bernie..Hillary lost to Obama and Hillary will lose to Bernie. Part of Barak's Magic was his brand, his label, He is Black..Most people who voted for him, the first time jumped on the band wagon believing a real change was coming.
Bernie is Bernie!

As my grandmother used to say, "from your mouth to God's ear." Was simply drawing a comparison of the competition. Guess you missed that. But kudos to you admitting that most voted for him believing a real change was coming. The real change will be on January 21, 2017 when he leaves office.
 

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You really think all things being equal, obama vs. Bernie?

In fairness, no. I like Bernie for a lot of reasons, but I worry that if he is the nominee he will look bad next to Rubio physically. In addition his speaking style is not his strong suit when he is on tv. His age would be an issue, like McCain's was. All of that is unfair because I would vote for him with no hesitation. Obama was young at a time when we were looking for fresh leadership and he showed a lot of savvy out maneuvering Hillary. In fairness Hillary has many of the same negatives, regardless of who the Dems put up it will be a hard campaign. The best hope for the Dems is Trump or possibly Cruise, but given the rightward tilt the GOP has made all of the candidates there have weak points than can be beaten.
 

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In fairness, no. I like Bernie for a lot of reasons, but I worry that if he is the nominee he will look bad next to Rubio physically. In addition his speaking style is not his strong suit when he is on tv. His age would be an issue, like McCain's was. All of that is unfair because I would vote for him with no hesitation. Obama was young at a time when we were looking for fresh leadership and he showed a lot of savvy out maneuvering Hillary. In fairness Hillary has many of the same negatives, regardless of who the Dems put up it will be a hard campaign. The best hope for the Dems is Trump or possibly Cruise, but given the rightward tilt the GOP has made all of the candidates there have weak points than can be beaten.

The points you raise are concerning. You highlight the candidates' persona, their physical appearance, and are correct. This is what too many people look at. We see it with Trudeau in Canada now as well. Obama came across as young, fresh, energetic with absolutley no credentials or resume behind him. And we have paid the price.

Bernie is too radical, even left of obama and Hillary, if possible. The masses won't supprt him. And many who support him could NEVER even entertain that anything the conservatives have to say makes sense, and consequently just tear the candidates into pieces like birds of prey. Rubio and Christie have some very reasonable and sound views, but will be attacked vehemently here given the overal liberal till, to borrow your word.
 

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The points you raise are concerning. You highlight the candidates' persona, their physical appearance, and are correct. This is what too many people look at. We see it with Trudeau in Canada now as well. Obama came across as young, fresh, energetic with absolutley no credentials or resume behind him. And we have paid the price.

Bernie is too radical, even left of obama and Hillary, if possible. The masses won't supprt him. And many who support him could NEVER even entertain that anything the conservatives have to say makes sense, and consequently just tear the candidates into pieces like birds of prey. Rubio and Christie have some very reasonable and sound views, but will be attacked vehemently here given the overal liberal till, to borrow your word.
Take this as an attack(because I'm sure that you will) but I would like to know what price have we paid? He may not be everything you desire but many of his practices have been far more to the right than most liberals or Democrats prefer. When gas prices were high he was blamed by the right but when gas prices came down credit was given elsewhere. He favored practices that the Republican Party, if the President were Republican, would be overjoyed with for example the ACA. It made people be responsible for their own health care instead of relying on others to foot the bill. I used to think the GOP was in favor of personal responsibility. It sure seemed like it when Romney and the Heritage Foundation had that idea.

Don't say division because the issue of race never came up as much before because the President couldn't speak about to be a different race and silence on Trump shows that racial division isn't really a major concern.

I would really like to know what your problems with this President is because judging from what he has mostly done if he were a Republican you would speak as highly of him as you have of Ben Carson.