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I viewed srk515 as one of the members who helped create the atmosphere I so wanted to work against from the thread this was posted in reaction to. That was the only reason I tried telling him off, which was fairly foolish of me considering his sexist attitude. The going off-topic thing, especially in a thread I created specifically for a specific atmosphere is quite on my mind.
Thank you for bringing it back on topic Zephyr
Gay men do not necessarily have an easier time being respectful of women. The thing is, gay men have a completely different perspective than straight men, which many women find as a breath of fresh air. I believe a lot of gay men can be disrespectful of women in different ways. That different perspective though I do think is easier to work with BECAUSE most gay men don't sleep with women. It is an interesting topic, isn't?
I like being able to identify and acknowledge sexist statements and attitudes. Being aware of what it means to be sexist and the impact it has on the people around you I think is huge.
I missed out on the "fun" in the other thread you mentioned, not that I am too concerned about that. Maybe one way to look at starting a thread on here is that you are giving a gift, but you can't control what happens to the gift after it is given. Sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and keep from saying, "you did WHAT with that cool shirt I bought you?" :wink:
As for my question about whether or not gay guys have it easier when it comes to being respectful of women, you are right that some guys are just jerks, regardless of sexual orientation. The difference is if some guy is a jerk to everyone, kind of an equal opportunity offender, I personally don't think those types of guys are worth trying to convince of your ideas. (In fact, for some reason I started thinking about hickboy when I re-read what I just typed, awww I kind of miss him popping up in a thread just for the hell of it to scream the word "CUNT!" at someone.) A guy who is the super coolest buddy to almost every other guy he meets but constantly talks shit about women, yeah there are issues there that could be psychoanalyzed and called out, because otherwise it's even harder to change. It makes me feel good about myself that I am a lot more tolerant of others than my parent's generation, whether it's gays, women, Asians, black people, Hispanics, people with disabilities, you name it. I think you're right, also, when you said "Being aware of what it means to be sexist and the impact it has on the people around you I think is huge", if more people stopped to think about what they are saying before they say it, it would eliminate a lot of the problems in the world. And, one more thought, there is no gender restriction on being sexist, obviously it occurs more often where women are the ones being insulted or worse, but there are reversals of that too. If you're looking at the big picture, it does matter what we all say and do.