Beto - win or lose tonight, has he changed the face of u.s. politics?

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BETO O'ROURKE: Galvanizing young, female and minority voters to defeat Trump Republican Ted Cruz
He's a political star in his own right - and campaigning to defeat (now) Trump loyalist and far right-winger Ted Cruz in Texas - a Ruby Red Republican state. And he's hoping to do it by upending the usual political textbook response: turn Right in a heavily Republican state to pick off a few conservative Republicans by minimizing difference. Beto O'Rourke has felt from the start that the usual strategy belongs in the garbage. Instead, he's campaigning on the moderate-progressive center-left, reaching out and galvanizing huge numbers of young, female and minority voters to come out en masse to try to defeat the Republicans - and he's turned down corporate funding, in favor of thousands of small contributions from the public.

Over the final week, my bros and I have traveled across the US to volunteer in local campaigns, and we're with Beto's campaign here in Texas on his last day today. Tomorrow, we fly back to California. Just as Beto hoped, the lines of young & minority voters here have been enormous - despite the odds against a Democrat winning this state. The latest opinion polls are neck-and-neck: it just feels unreal! Win or lose, Beto's candidacy has changed Texas political campaigning forever. :)

And win or lose, do you think Beto has also changed the face of US politics?
 

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It's complicated. I'm still glued to the TV so I can't write much now (go Beto!), but there are ways in which Beto is creating change but also ways in which he's reflecting change.

Anyways, I'll write more once this gets called in. Still too much of a nailbiter.

Bummer he didn't make it across the finish line, but still ran a really good race. For comparison, John Cornyn won his senate seat in the 2014 midterms 62 to 35. Cruz won his during the 2012 presidential 57 to 41. Cruz only beat Beto by 3 points (a win's a win, but that was very close, especially for this state).

As far as what Beto changed, he's laid the groundwork for the Democratic support structure for future races in this state. Texas is one of the fastest growing states and has been for years and the cities are growing faster than the rural areas. When I talk about Beto being a reflection, it's of the fact that whether the GOP likes it or not, the state is slowly becoming more purple over time. Pete Sessions just lost the house seat he's held for the last 15 years (and lost it by 8 points).

If I had to peg one impact of Beto on the national stage, it's that being authentic and earnest can carry you a lot further than watering down your views to appeal to the opposition. That doesn't mean everyone run as a progressive, it just means that people appreciate candidates who have the courage of their own convictions regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.

If he'd won senate I think he'd be positioned well for a presidential run in 2024. He still could, but it depends a lot what he gets up to over the next 4 years (and whether Trump wins or loses in 2020).
 

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Did he change US politics? No. Not by himself.

I was rooting for him, hard... But I'm not surprised that he didn't win.

It's disgusting that this guy who is so obviously disliked by so many people still managed to win. It's because of the overall corrupt system we have in this "free" country.

Thanks for your reply. Fell asleep, exhausted but so happy! After we finished campaigning for him yesterday, we felt so relieved that we, and all the local campaigners we worked with, had pulled out all the stops to maximize his vote. I don't think the fact that we didn't win is due to an "overall corrupt system": in truth, this was a "Ruby Red" Republican state, where right wing Republicans, including Ted Cruz, constantly win by landslides. I'm from California, where Dems win by similar margins.

So we didn't think we would win - tbh, in a place like Texas, we didn't think a few weeks ago that any Democrat could even come close. Yet here we were, within a whisker of taking the state. So we're not at all disheartened that Beto/we narrowly lost - just amazed that he/we came so far! I'm going back to sleep soon - we're in a big tent for party volunteers, surrounded by a ton of guys our age - and my bros & bf are in the beds right around me. All of us are very tired, with sore feet - but very, very proud of Beto, of the Democratic "get out the vote" volunteers, of Texas voters and the wonderful, amazing people we met in several local campaigns across different states. What an experience.... :)
 

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Actually, that's usually the case. But this time, it wasn't just a vote against Sen. Ted Cruz - or even by proxy against Donald Trump. For many here, It was actually a positive vote for Beto. Because unlike most politicians, he doesn't endlessly sling mud at his opponents - he has an upbeat and optimistic message, a really good political program and a genuinely good character to match. It's as much about wanting him, and his policy program, than a vote against Cruz/Trump/Republicans....

All qualities that don't MATTER at all to the GOP and Trump's band of sycophants. In fact they ridicule such qualities. Congratulations to you and your candidate for running a campaign on dignity, poise and the REAL issues at hand.
 

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All qualities that don't MATTER at all to the GOP and Trump's band of sycophants. In fact they ridicule such qualities. Congratulations to you and your candidate for running a campaign on dignity, poise and the REAL issues at hand.

Thank you so much. He really did run on the real issue, and almost won. Just a month ago, ppl would laugh if you or I suggested he could have gotten anywhere close to Cruz. I would've been mighty skeptical at that time, too. Managed to meet and shake hands with him - he was in the middle of a live interview, but he didn't mind and nor did the TV crew - tbh, he's even more impressive "in the flesh" than on TV!

Before Beto, for me the only really great politician I saw was when I was a small kid: we flew out to Chicago and went to Grant Park on Election Night in 2008 for President-Elect Obama's wonderful, mesmerizing speech. It made a lifelong impression on me. I loved his presidency, and still strongly support him. And before my time, Al Gore is someone I deeply admire, too. I'm relieved I was way too young to experience the shock of Bush 2 taking the Presidency, and Gore's graceful concession that I first watched many years later (2009).

You're right: Beto's qualities don't matter to the GOP or Trump's numerous sycophants. But what we noticed in Texas was that while many Republican voters still support Cruz, many are not at all keen on Trump or his acolytes. In some ways that's hardly surprising, given the depth of hostility between Cruz and Trump in 2016. As a result, many Texas Republicans can't stand Trump - specially the way he trashed Cruz and Cruz's dad that year.

But the issue for many Cruz supporters now is that the "new Cruz" is now very much pro-Trump - and many can't simply stomach it. Many Republicans we spoke to were genuinely seething about that, are more than happy to speak out - we were amazed at their openness toward us, as we're obviously Ddemocrat volunteers - and told us their former hero has "sold out" to Trump. They didn't vote Beto, and they were honest to tell us (very) bluntly they wouldn't be supporting him either - and quite a few gritted their teeth to vote Cruz to keep Beto out! But many simply can't support Cruz in his reincarnation as a Trump sycophant. Instead, they registered their own type of protest by refusing to turn up to vote at all.

When we first turned up outside people's front doors to ask them if they'd consider voting Beto, it's like they discussed this with neighbors and friends beforehand, cos the reaction and wording of their response was much the same: Cruz has "betrayed our trust, so if we vote him at all", it would only be to keep out "your candidate", Beto, who they feel is "way too extreme/socialistic for Texas". And many warned that even if Cruz held on this time, he's very likely to lose next time - even if "extreme" Beto is our candidate - and they specially won't be casting their vote for Trump in the 2020 Presidentials, either.... :)
 

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Man, to all the armchair quarterbacks adding their two cents on what Beto should've done differently...


Beto ran as pefect of a campaign as I think is humanly possible. This has been, and still is, a state who's political affiliations heavily favor a Republican candidate. That is changing over time and we're not yet at the point where a Democratic candidate could clear that wall, but I'm so proud of Beto for the earnest effort he put in to trying.

Nothing changes without those efforts being made. The talking heads saying he should've posted more attack ads or abandoned his principles to try and appeal to more moderates don't know wtf they're talking about and can sod off.
 

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Email I received yesterday from Beto (went out to all his supporters)

Amy is watching Last of the Mohicans in the other room with the kids. We started it last night after Ulysses’ basketball game. Pizza, carrots, Mohicans and then early to bed.

This morning, before everyone got up, I went on a run with Artemis and then made breakfast. Scones, German pancakes, bacon, eggs, and some bread that Jim and Christine brought by last night with butter and jam on it. Some coffee from beans that a friend in Austin sent to us last week. It’s not Whataburger, but...

After breakfast, we went on a hike in the Franklins with friends and dogs. Glorious morning in El Paso, crisp and clear, you can see for miles at the top of Crazy Cat.

Listening to the war cries and shots firing from the TV speaker in the other room, I’m smiling because we are all together again. Doing something -- just hanging out, just being around, just being -- that I haven’t done in almost two years.

Been to all the kids’ games over the last few days, made dinners at home, seen some friends and got to be outside, on the mountain and down at the river with Artemis.

I can hear Amy yelling in the other room “Don’t watch this part! Don’t watch it!”

And Henry saying “I’m watching it!” and laughing.

Already miss the road. Miss our team and the volunteers we’d see in every city, every town. Miss the energy and smiles and joy that I found all over Texas. Miss the purpose, the goal. Miss being part of something so much bigger than me or my life. Organized for a common cause and end. We were all together, really together. Never felt anything like that.

While there is loss, I also feel intense gratitude, waves of it every day. How was I so lucky to be part of something so amazing?

I can close my eyes and see so many faces and smiles. Hear the laughing and the cheering. I can see us hopeful and connecting as we shook one another’s hand, looking at each other and nodding, knowing. All the stories that have been shared with me, all part of me. Every gift and kindness, every word of encouragement. Every bit of faith in what we had set ourselves to.

We were doing this for one another, doing this the right way, doing this for our country at what we all know to be a defining moment of truth.

The loss is bitter, and I don’t know that I’ve been able to fully understand it. I try not to ask what I could have done differently because I don’t know that there is an end to those questions or thoughts. There are a million different decisions I could have made, paths I could have taken, things I could have said or not said, said better or differently. I did my best, everyone did. For our democracy to work, for us to be able to continue to work together, it’s important to be at peace with the outcome.

But what remains is this: I’m the luckiest guy in the world to have had the chance to do this with you. To bring power and joy to politics. People instead of PACs. Communities instead of corporations. Polls and consultants left to the wind and hopefully to the past. To have the confidence to move with the courage of our convictions. To open our hearts to one another. To not allow our differences (of party, of geography, of race or anything else) to divide us. To not know how it would end but to know that we had to give it everything.

I don’t know how to fully make sense of what remains or to measure the impact we’ve had.

Certainly, we changed something in Texas and in our politics. At the very least our campaign reflected a change already underway in Texas that hadn’t yet been seen in statewide campaigns.

Future campaigns will be won, influenced by the one we built. Candidates will run who otherwise wouldn’t have. Some will take heart in knowing that you don’t have to accept PAC money, you don’t have to hire a pollster to know how you think or what you want to say. They will have seen in our campaign that there is real joy and power in being with people, all people. Republicans, Democrats, Independents. People who’ve never voted and never will. People who will vote for you, people who won’t. People who live in the forgotten neighborhoods of the biggest cities. People who live in small towns that no Senate candidate has been to in 70 years.

I am grateful that you gave me a chance to be part of this. I feel responsible to you, to our country, to my kids and to my conscience to make sure that we continue to find a way to respond to the urgency that we still feel. It didn’t go away Tuesday night. Our ability to convert hope and inspiration into action and change must not be wasted or kept to a candidate or campaign lest it dissipate and be rendered unusable at the most challenging time in our country’s history.

Just know that I want to be part of the best way forward for this country -- whatever way I can help in whatever form that takes. Know that I am honored to have run this campaign with you and that I want to continue to honor and be honest to what was powerful about it.

For the time being, I am going to focus on being a better dad to our kids who have not had much of one for the last 22 months.

Movie is over. Now going to Molly’s basketball game and then we’ll see what’s next.

Grateful to you for being a part of this, for giving me a chance to be a part of this.

See you down the road,

Beto
 

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BETO O'ROURKE: Galvanizing young, female and minority voters to defeat Trump Republican Ted Cruz
He's a political star in his own right - and campaigning to defeat (now) Trump loyalist and far right-winger Ted Cruz in Texas - a Ruby Red Republican state. And he's hoping to do it by upending the usual political textbook response: turn Right in a heavily Republican state to pick off a few conservative Republicans by minimizing difference. Beto O'Rourke has felt from the start that the usual strategy belongs in the garbage. Instead, he's campaigning on the moderate-progressive center-left, reaching out and galvanizing huge numbers of young, female and minority voters to come out en masse to try to defeat the Republicans - and he's turned down corporate funding, in favor of thousands of small contributions from the public.

Over the final week, my bros and I have traveled across the US to volunteer in local campaigns, and we're with Beto's campaign here in Texas on his last day today. Tomorrow, we fly back to California. Just as Beto hoped, the lines of young & minority voters here have been enormous - despite the odds against a Democrat winning this state. The latest opinion polls are neck-and-neck: it just feels unreal! Win or lose, Beto's candidacy has changed Texas political campaigning forever. :)

And win or lose, do you think Beto has also changed the face of US politics?

It's complicated. I'm still glued to the TV so I can't write much now (go Beto!), but there are ways in which Beto is creating change but also ways in which he's reflecting change.

Anyways, I'll write more once this gets called in. Still too much of a nailbiter.
 

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Did he change US politics? No. Not by himself.

I was rooting for him, hard... But I'm not surprised that he didn't win.

It's disgusting that this guy who is so obviously disliked by so many people still managed to win. It's because of the overall corrupt system we have in this "free" country.
 

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I'll note also that Beto flipped the last urban center in TX lastnight.

Prior to this election, Fort Worth was voting reliably red in every election. Last night it did go blue for Beto (50% to 49%). So Beto won the eight largest cities in the state, but Cruz won largely on the strength of the rural vote.

Texas Election Results 2018: Live Midterm Map by County & Analysis

As Texas grows, and grows more urban, the statewide races are going to continue to grow more competitive like this: New Census Data Show Texas Cities Are Growing Faster Than All Other States

Dems do need to work on Plano & Frisco especially though. They're often considered suburbs of Dallas, but both cities are growing large enough that they're transitioning into more of their own urban center (They'll have to start calling it Dallas-Fort Worth-Plano/Frisco). I just mention it because Beto did lose those two counties (Collin & Denton). I wasn't sure which way they were going to go (there's a ton of tech & health care jobs up there), but that's definitely an opportunity to do better.

Ended up being a 2.6% difference. Close, but not close enough (but close! :)). Things are definitely changing.

 

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I join you in no longer believing humanity has a future.

Ted Cruz, a "man" who kissed up to someone who called his father a murderer and his wife ugly, won reelection.

Texas has been and still is a majority Republican state. I don't think there was ever a question that they would abandon Cruz (who represents lower taxes, school vouchers, gun rights, and immigration crackdown) to support a liberal.

It was really about which candidate could energize enough voters to win. Cruz had the easier job here, and he managed to secure his re-election, but for Beto to come as close as he did reflects both changing voter demographics and the state and also a straight up kick-ass campaigning job.

Basically, Beto ran the better campaign, but Cruz leveraged his advantage.
 

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Cruz's victory will hopefully be a lesson to those on the left who refuse to vote for a candidate unless he or she is their choice. A lot of people who voted for Cruz did so "holding their nose" because they didn't like the man but couldn't let the other side win. Imagine what it might have been like in 2016 if those who voted for Stein or refused to vote because it wasn't Sanders did the same?

I don't think anyone "likes" Ted Cruz. As a person and human being he's really gross. But he's a reliable conservative vote in congress. Most Republican voters aren't going to throw away a vote just because the douche casting the vote is a douche.

But look at it this way. Beto O'Rourke, in a midterm no less, secured more total votes for Senator than Hillary Clinton did for president in 2016 in the same state.

Hillary Clinton 2016 vote total: 3,877,868
Beto O'Rourke 2018 vote total: 4,015,082

More democratic voters came out in a midterm than came out in the presidential election. That's phenomenal.

Ted Cruz received less votes than Donald Trump (4,228,832 -vs- 4,685,047).

Don't get me wrong, Ted still won, but this state is pushing its way purple and the failure of the Texas GOP to adopt a more moderate conservative platform increases the likelihood that there will be a transition of power in the future (it wasn't this election, but it inches closer to happening with the continued population explosion in Texas cities).

Republicans are still winning, but any trend of their election performance shows them very obviously hemorraging independents in particular. Any presidential run where Texas votes Democrat is completely lost to the GOP. There's no math that will save them if/when that happens and growth rate is enough that it could happen as soon as 2024.
 

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Man, to all the armchair quarterbacks adding their two cents on what Beto should've done differently...


Beto ran as pefect of a campaign as I think is humanly possible. This has been, and still is, a state who's political affiliations heavily favor a Republican candidate. That is changing over time and we're not yet at the point where a Democratic candidate could clear that wall, but I'm so proud of Beto for the earnest effort he put in to trying.

Nothing changes without those efforts being made. The talking heads saying he should've posted more attack ads or abandoned his principles to try and appeal to more moderates don't know wtf they're talking about and can sod off.
I totally agree. he was within 3%. His turnout was massive for a midterm. And everyone knew how hard it was to win as a Dem here and it was a longshot. They begged him to have a pollster etc, he wanted to run it his way connect with voters show people there are voters in Texas and you don't HAVE to run to the center and be a republican lite here like whats usually done.

In any other more Democratic friendly state Beto could run for and win anything he wants. He is able to actually connect and listen to people. You see evidence of it on every stop he made in every county.

he answered hard questions, he didn't just run on "attacking Trump" like GOP claimed is all Dems do.

The real effect he did of getting vote out actually helped other candidates on the ballots too. Voting straight ticket wiped out a lot of old comfortable GOP judges, helped get 2 Latinas to the House for the first time here. He did well and should be very proud. just as Cruz should be embarrassed how close this was
 
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In what world is 28 seats and counting not "winning" ???

Talk to me about how Dean Heller won.

AZ and FL are not yet decided

MS is headed to run off the R in ruby red MS BARELY came in 1rst.

Talk to me about how Kris Kobach won.

Talk to me about how Scott Walker won.
 
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Promise not to kill anyone? After losing election, TX judge wholesale releases juvenile defendants

After losing his bench in a Democratic sweep, Harris County Juvenile Court Judge Glenn Devlin released nearly all of the youthful defendants that appeared in front him on Wednesday morning, simply asking the kids whether they planned to kill anyone before letting them go.

"He was releasing everybody," said public defender Steven Halpert, who watched the string of surprising releases. "Apparently he was saying that's what the voters wanted."

Promise not to kill anyone? After losing election, TX judge wholesale releases juvenile defendants


So Petty. Glad the Beto effect wiped all these old comfortable judges in Texas out
 
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I totally agree. he was within 3%. His turnout was massive for a midterm. And everyone knew how hard it was to win as a Dem here and it was a longshot. They begged him to have a pollster etc, he wanted to run it his way connect with voters show people there are voters in Texas and you don't HAVE to run to the center and be a republican lite here like whats usually done.

In any other more Democratic friendly state Beto could run for and win anything he wants. He is able to actually connect and listen to people. You see evidence of it on every stop he made in every county.

he answered hard questions, he didn't just run on "attacking Trump" like GOP claimed is all Dems do.

The real effect he did of getting vote out actually helped other candidates on the ballots too. Voting straight ticket wiped out a lot of old comfortable GOP judges, helped get 2 Latinas to the House for the first time here. He did well and should be very proud. just as Cruz should be embarrassed how close this was

Strongly agree with all of the above. We were volunteers (bros, bf and me) on Beto's campaign, together with a ton of other people. From the inside of the campaign, we saw Beto enacting his principles. He treats both his campaign staff and volunteers very well. That included making sure we were rested, had proper breaks in our delivery schedules and had plenty to eat/drink. Difficult with the sheer numbers of volunteers involved. As I mentioned earlier, I met and shook hands with him right in front of a live TV crew, in mid-interview: neither minded in the least, and instead of being awkward, he turned it into a fun moment. It may sound trivial, but that moment alone is something I'm sure I'm gonna remember for the rest of my life.

Can I say something about Beto that I hope nobody thinks is just "bigging him up"? And that is, he's genuinely more impressive in real life than he is on TV. As you say, he does listen to and connect with people. He doesn't spend all his energies on attacking Trump or Cruz - he does answer hard questions and also explains some of the complexity of issues which mean that it isn't possible to "instantly" solve them when winning office - that some stuff takes months or years to even begin to resolve. The truth is, in real life he's even more engaged with you, answering questions fully. He's not at all glib - and when he doesn't know the answer, he says so. In that last part, Typically Texan! Close up, he has a real intensity of focus that's totally compelling.

Again as I mentioned earlier, nearly every election, our party's candidates tag to the Right in Republican states, sacrifice their principles to try to get elected, soon get into all kinds of contorted arguments, then finally go on to lose - often quite badly. And then they get tagged with taking "funny money", cos it's so difficult to gain big funding from legitimate sources in a no-hope state. Beto has proved, from this point forward, that it doesn't have to be done that way, or end up with those inevitably big defeats. The truth is, there are plenty of people in every state who support liberal and forward-leaning policies, to combat inequality, low wages, discrimination in the workplace, voter suppression and human-made climate change. And there are way better methods of funding, through small, direct contributions - as Howard Dean, Obama and Beto himself have discovered. Doing everything possible to get out the vote really does make the difference - and making inroads into your opponent's vote by narrowing the gap - whether in a GOP state like Texas, or a toss-up state like Florida, have a long-term payoff.

As you say, "he did well and should be very proud", and Cruz should be embarrassed by the final result. In even the most unlikely-seeming places, big inroads can be made from which later victories become a realist prospect. I'm nearly 20 now, and it's a lesson I'm gonna reflect upon - and do all I can to apply - from this point on.
 

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Bummer he didn't make it across the finish line, but still ran a really good race. For comparison, John Cornyn won his senate seat in the 2014 midterms 62 to 35. Cruz won his during the 2012 presidential 57 to 41. Cruz only beat Beto by 3 points (a win's a win, but that was very close, especially for this state).

As far as what Beto changed, he's laid the groundwork for the Democratic support structure for future races in this state. Texas is one of the fastest growing states and has been for years and the cities are growing faster than the rural areas. When I talk about Beto being a reflection, it's of the fact that whether the GOP likes it or not, the state is slowly becoming more purple over time. Pete Sessions just lost the house seat he's held for the last 15 years (and lost it by 8 points).

If I had to peg one impact of Beto on the national stage, it's that being authentic and earnest can carry you a lot further than watering down your views to appeal to the opposition. That doesn't mean everyone run as a progressive, it just means that people appreciate candidates who have the courage of their own convictions regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.

If he'd won senate I think he'd be positioned well for a presidential run in 2024. He still could, but it depends a lot what he gets up to over the next 4 years (and whether Trump wins or loses in 2020).

Oh yes - absolutely. And you really got to the crux of it in the part I just highlighted. Authenticity is key. Campaigning hard for Beto on our last day of crossing the US, that was one of the key reasons people gave us in voting for him. And as I mentioned in my reply to b.c. above, many voted for him and not just against Cruz/Trump/Republicans. Too often, Dems in Ruby Red states pretend that they're Republican in everything but name, and end up in crazily contorted positions, endorsing Trump or Trump nominees like Kavanaugh. Republicans in Deep Blue states do the same, pretending that they're virtually identical to Democrats, and that Nancy Pelosi is their personal pin-up.

It's so much easier to lazily attract a handful of voters in landslide states to switch party, and end with a deeply compromised candidate who then goes on to lose, even if the incumbent's landslide is reduced a little in the process. Voters can spot the inauthentic a mile away, and they rightly punish them. That happened to a Democrat challenger last night in the House race for West Virginia, Richard Ojeda. He pledged loyalty to Trump on most issues and strongly praised his nomination of Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court - but was rightly swept away by voters who preferred the real thing in incumbent Carol Miller, who went whole hog in defense of Trump. Meanwhile, corporate supporters don't wanna support no-hopers, leading some candidates to then get into shady deals to raise the funds need to run.

By contrast, Beto ran on his own program, didn't try over-compromising (or making much compromise at all) with Republican positions or even try courting Rep voters - and instead concentrated on large numbers who support the Dems but often don't turn out to vote. And to avoid accusations of selling out to corporate interests or making those shady finance deals, he didn't take money from either: instead, he took small donations from thousands of ordinary people. He actually raised over $37 million in that way - considerably more than Ted Cruz gained from all of his corporate money.

So you're absolutely right to say, "people appreciate candidates who have the courage of their own convictions". Let's hope that for both sides, instead of being a rare and notable exception, this actually starts to become the norm....
 
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