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wow...and those are your comebacks? Really? I'm gonna do you a solid and end this convo cause you have no idea. I suggest you find an older gay man. There are many on this site i think but i'm not sure. Then ask them what they've had to go through so you can act like you are right now. I think the best thing i can do for you right now is stop talking. Cause we all know you'll reply and yeah its already been bad enough. Good luck though.


This is for the best, Puckit....and I do believe that you've tumbled upon Z's true intent on this thread.

You see he sees himself as some sort of master debater and thusly steps down into a thread, posts an extremely provocative reply and then hysterically defends that position at all costs..all in an effort to prove that he is the better.

The strident little runt has earned himself a spot on my ignore list which in it's self heralds a banning in his near future.
Trust me when the ban is dropped on this one I'll be there cheering and I'll take great delight in pissing on his grave.
 

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This is for the best, Puckit....and I do believe that you've tumbled upon Z's true intent on this thread.

You see he sees himself as some sort of master debater and thusly steps down into a thread, posts an extremely provocative reply and then hysterically defends that position at all costs..all in an effort to prove that he is the better.

The strident little runt has earned himself a spot on my ignore list which in it's self heralds a banning in his near future.
Trust me when the ban is dropped on this one I'll be there cheering and I'll take great delight in pissing on his grave.

I agree, it tis for the best.
 

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Another reason o the Gay bias against bisexuality is this:
A majority of gay men, today, due to social pressures, tried to live straight lives and deny their deeper feelings, only to pass thru a period where they increasingly experimented with homosexual activities before committing themselves fully to a gay identity and gay lifestyle.

As a result, they tend to view all other men engaging occasionally in homosexuality as being like them, and being simply on the arc to fully realizing their gay preferences.


One of the hardest things for people, in general, to do is to understand that other people do not see or respond to the world the same way they do, for the same reasons.


In any event... the evidence has already been collected, from both history, surveys, and modern scientific experiments that do not rely on reportage but use a device for measuring actual arousal when exposed to different kinds of porn...

Sorry all you folks who think otherwise... but proof is proof and unsupported opinion is just belief.

In fact... all evidence shows that human males run a spectrum from fully homosexual, thru bisexuality of different degrees, all the way to fully heterosexual.
Approximately 8% of males are totally homosexual, approximately 12 percent of males are totally heterosexual, with the other 80% distributed on a curve that is biased toward the more heterosexual side.

the majority of human males Prefer relationship and sex with females... but are more than capable of enjoying sex with males as an occasional diversion, or when females are not available.

But all real evidence agrees...
Human males are predominantly hetero-preferring bisexual.

It is real... and it Seldom results in a man continuing on toward being fully gay.

It does not matter what people claim. The first thing you learn in anthropology is that people lie both to and about themselves...and about their cultures, too.

What matters is what they DO.

Anonymous polls get more truth than attributed ones... and a plesmograph will tell you for certain whether a man finds homosexual imagery arousing.

Bisexuality in human males is real.

Boy, did you ever make some good points here!!!!

Yes, most men are indeed hetero-leaning bisexuals, no matter what our culture or society says. It is just a fact regarding male sexuality, I'm afraid. Men who are extremely gay and extremely straight are not very common.

And by the way, there are also homo-leaning bisexuals, but not sure where they come in at.
 
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This is for the best, Puckit....and I do believe that you've tumbled upon Z's true intent on this thread.

You see he sees himself as some sort of master debater

Well, I don't know if I'd say "master" but I can follow along with a thread, quote things, and defend what I think if that's what you mean.

and thusly steps down into a thread, posts an extremely provocative reply

What about "I respect and am even slightly envious of bisexuals" strikes you as "extremely provocative" in a thread titled Bi ain't a lie? Was it the part where I said I don't think it's illegitimate? I'm just curious for the sake of being curious I suppose. Did I accidentally include a paragraph that said they should all be sent to a colony on the moon or something?

and then hysterically defends that position at all costs..all in an effort to prove that he is the better.

I think you've confused the word hysterically with the word adamantly. But "prove that he is better?" Better than what? Better than whom? I flat said I was slightly envious of bisexuals and described the orientation in language so sugary Martha Stewart would have gotten a headache form it.

The strident little runt has earned himself a spot on my ignore list which in it's self heralds a banning in his near future.
Trust me when the ban is dropped on this one I'll be there cheering and I'll take great delight in pissing on his grave.

Well, that seems a little over the top... if we're going to use the word "hysterical" that might be a more apt place for it. Considering the entire post was an attack and not topical (both of which are against the SOP) I'd say if either of us were in danger of a ban it wouldn't be me.

To conclude my thoughts on this; I'm not the bigot you're after. I "support" bisexual people as much as I possibly can. I don't think the orientation is illegitimate. For further elaboration see the very first post I made in this thread that has since been devoured and regurgitated as something it was never intended to be.



JSZ
 

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ooohHHHH ooohhhhOoohhhhhh ooohhhhOOHHHHHH ooohhh

everybody was kungfu fighting..


Arguing with someone who has this large a need for attention that it almost rates as a form of pathology isn't very responsible.

It's like offering a bottle of single malt to an alcoholic.
 

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Boy, did you ever make some good points here!!!!

Yes, most men are indeed hetero-leaning bisexuals, no matter what our culture or society says. It is just a fact regarding male sexuality, I'm afraid. Men who are extremely gay and extremely straight are not very common.

And by the way, there are also homo-leaning bisexuals, but not sure where they come in at.
I really feel I'm a homo leaning bisexual. I have a savage deep attraction to men usually medium masculine and I have a long term relationship with a woman who while she's not my "girlfriend" we have a close deep connection. I have always had the problem of "well he fucks guys that must mean he's gay" or the reverse of that statement in regards to women I've had relationships with. So I really am happy to read that article because some not all people have the idea that if science says so it is true and maybe this will open some minds to the fact that Bisexuals like me exist and our sexuality is valid.
 
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i'm queer. a nice mix of ever-horny, slippery gender, few hard limits and a fairly fuck-it-all attitude when it comes to seeking other peoples' approval.

randomly: factious is only cute for so long as ya rambleriot is born out of idealism. being a snit, a smug snit, grows old fast.

now we dance
 

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Hmmm... I'm not sure, Puckit, why you're challenging my state of employment. Perhaps you thought I was poking fun at you? I was not.

I am genuinely interested in the thread's subject matter AND genuinely amused and pleased by the banter between you and The Dragon. That's all.

I did not mean to step on your virtual dick, and I apologize if that's what I did. Of course, on a site that is all about larger than average penises, it's difficult not to at least stumble over one or two on occasion.
 

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Why are people so reluctant to believe that men can be bisexual?

As people have said already, because we as a culture don't have our collective heads around human sexuality enough to admit that there's much, much, much more than the gay/straight binary that was invented in the 1800s.

Seriously, hetero- and homosexuality are relics of the Victorian age, and (in my opinion) like most of Victorian-era sexuality they deserve to be turfed as soon as we can get our asses in gear to do it.
 

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My personal "axe to grind" with bisexuality is not the fact that people are, but most of the people who are, are and LIE about it.I realize not everyone does, but, the one's I've met. My personal experience with a couple "bi" friends are that as long as my cock was inside one of them, they were cool with it, and when it wasn't, they tended to have no respect for me or the gay community in general. Both are married with children and total bottoms.....my take on it is that its called " having your cake and eating it too"....let the flaming wars begin:wink:
 

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Hmmm... I'm not sure, Puckit, why you're challenging my state of employment. Perhaps you thought I was poking fun at you? I was not.

I am genuinely interested in the thread's subject matter AND genuinely amused and pleased by the banter between you and The Dragon. That's all.

I did not mean to step on your virtual dick, and I apologize if that's what I did. Of course, on a site that is all about larger than average penises, it's difficult not to at least stumble over one or two on occasion.

See had you said "i didn't mean to virtual cock block" it would have fit the mold a bit better but ah well.
 

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My personal "axe to grind" with bisexuality is not the fact that people are, but most of the people who are, are and LIE about it.I realize not everyone does, but, the one's I've met. My personal experience with a couple "bi" friends are that as long as my cock was inside one of them, they were cool with it, and when it wasn't, they tended to have no respect for me or the gay community in general. Both are married with children and total bottoms.....my take on it is that its called " having your cake and eating it too"....let the flaming wars begin:wink:

Not criticizing at all, just wanting to clairfy. In those cases did their spouses know about their orientation and extramarital activities? I would think if they were keeping their bisexuality a secret from their spouse and having sex with other men outside the marriage that this more an issue of fidelity than with bisexuality. Plus I would think that the crappy disrespect they showed for you and the gay community in general would be an issue of denial and subsequent closeted homophobia in their situations. Either way I agree with you that their behavior was shitty.
 

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Your "axe to grind" should be with the insensitive people you associate with rather than a sexual preference. I have bi friends who would not treat others with disrespect.


My personal "axe to grind" with bisexuality is not the fact that people are, but most of the people who are, are and LIE about it.I realize not everyone does, but, the one's I've met. My personal experience with a couple "bi" friends are that as long as my cock was inside one of them, they were cool with it, and when it wasn't, they tended to have no respect for me or the gay community in general. Both are married with children and total bottoms.....my take on it is that its called " having your cake and eating it too"....let the flaming wars begin:wink:
 

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See had you said "i didn't mean to virtual cock block" it would have fit the mold a bit better but ah well.

Actually, between your post and a private message I just received I have only just heard of cock blocking. I have a good deal to learn here I see.

Truly I meant no offense. I'm about as uncompetitive as you can get. Not conflict averse, Or afraid to stand up for what I believe, just polite.