In another thread that I started, Italian made a comment about how he was surprised about my involvement a function that might seem to be exclusively gay. As I've said before, my best buddies and I are closeted and prefer to remain that way because of jobs and wifes. BTW, I'm not married. That doesn't mean, however, that if we're out of town together we necessarily keep things under wraps. If we go to Miami, the Keys, or NOLA, we generally hit most of the gay dance clubs, gay-friendly food places, etc. A couple of years ago, four of us even went on a gay cruise. Booking it out of Miami we felt rather safe. I often wonder how many other bi's are closeted as opposed to those that are out. At this point, especially since I hope that I'm never outed, what does one achieve from being out/open?