Bi or just drunk?

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The last night we were there, their was a lot of heavy boozing and smoking up.
A discussion about gay sex , what it is like etc etc seemed to get every one horny. In the past weve had circle jerk offs but nothing more.
Nothing more eh? I have no idea how often this might happen with guys who go away together but I doubt its normal if they are all straight.

I doubt it because of the society we live in which categorises people and frankly frowns on being gay. In different circumstances I think men might wank together perfectly happily, show interest in each others tackle, compare notes, lend a hand, all without being gay and rather wishing they had some women along instead. But in our society I dont find this happens, we have hang ups about it.

So I reckon this does only happen when there is something to push the guys over their learnt barrier, something about actively wanting to give it a try.

So something has happened before? Sounds to me as if this group is already selected for people who are up for something like this or they would not have come on the trip again. They are definitely people not afraid of associating with a gay guy. I guess the next question would be how did these trips start, how did this group get together in the first place?
 

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ok so I have to admit I'm also skeptical if this really did happen.

But if it did, your friends who claim to not remember are just lying as a way to cope. I have seen it before, it's a way to deal with what you did or the homoerotic feelings they have.

While I don't think overall it's right your wives are in the dark, I really doubt anyone will say anything. It's not something anyone in their right mind would ever bring up.
 

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I'm going to go with 'bi'. I don't think many people who aren't interested in same sex encounters are having gay orgies. Maybe I've missed something though.
 

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in my utopian version of the world, we would all feel free to chalk whatever sexual experience we're involved in to just being whatever sexual experience we're involved in. if it feels good, do it (safely). if it doesn't feel good, don't do it. if you desire something enough, (safely) act on it. the worst that can happen is you realize it's not for you - but even then, you've learned something worthwhile about yourself.

it was the fear of "being gay" that prevented me from having all kinds of pleasurable and rewarding experiences. then i realized nothing in this world is lived experientially on one extreme or the other, so why should we apply that illogical dogma to our sexuality?

fuck labels. just live. :)
 

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What do the OP's pics or his friends' body types have to do with their motivation to engage in mm sex? Am I missing something here?

Actually, it is very related. The hotter the guys are, the more likely a sexual attraction will be played out. I've heard/seen a lot of guys say "IF I was going to do something with a guy, he would have to (insert any number of physically attractive features here)"
 
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I'm going with drunk that revealed potential in the form of latent bi tendencies. Whether or not you would ever do anything sober, to me, or deliberately get drunk to engage in same sex relations, would be the determinant in the whether you are (or to what extent) you are bi.
 

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Actually, it is very related. The hotter the guys are, the more likely a sexual attraction will be played out. I've heard/seen a lot of guys say "IF I was going to do something with a guy, he would have to (insert any number of physically attractive features here)

Okay, but isn't "hotness" relative? How can anyone look at someone else's pics (particularly those that are faceless) and come to a conclusion about whether other people would be more or less inclined to find them sexually attractive? But regardless, if this is what was meant by that comment, it seems a rather superficial and insensitive remark. :rolleyes:
 

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Okay, but isn't "hotness" relative? How can anyone look at someone else's pics (particularly those that are faceless) and come to a conclusion about whether other people would be more or less inclined to find them sexually attractive? But regardless, if this is what was meant by that comment, it seems a rather superficial and insensitive remark. :rolleyes:
I agree. To be fair though, the men in question could have looked very different but were "hot" to each other, checkd the boxes. I would also suggest that if they smelled good, their voices (tone, accent, inflection) sounded appealing (and lets face it, there are some voices that just DO it for us and they are not always the same across a group of people as to what sounds sexy, though there does tend to be trends), and conversationaal skills (we ARE talking about a group of friends, so there had to be something there to begin with, no?)

If we take ALL of that into account ALONG WITH the visual stimulation (and keeping in mind that people have different things that appeal to them and differing orders to which sensory stimulus takes precedence over the others) then what CG was saying isn't really all that shallow. Just not as in depth as what I would have said (and did!, lol):biggrin1::tongue:

If there was that latent attraction (and remember,attraction is NOT always sexual, though elements of non sexual attraction can impact sexual attraction and help define it), then with a inhibition lowering element, like alcohol, along with plausible deniability ("I was soooo wasted, I don't remember a THING!" *nudge nudge, wink wink*), it is not really that surprising that something like this could occur. Again, I would not say that an incident (or a couple) in and of themselves make a person bi. The reaction to such (do they want to do it again? Are those feeling present in the un-inibrated state? DO they look forward t getting srunk in hopes it will happen again?) that would make the bi (or somewhere on the NON-100% range, which is a very large spread!)

Hope this makes as much sense as it did in my head! LOL

Of course Ideally we wouldn't stress on percentages, labels or such. Then agian, in an ideal world, we would be honest with ourselves and our loved ones without fear of repercussions to the possibility of being anything other than 100% straight (or gay or bi). We would acknowledge the validity of changes in our sexuality and accept others identities as valid and honest, without arguing ove the minutiae of details regarding what it all means, and "but you said you liked...and now you are doing..."

Well, one can dream:redface: