They sound like a cult. I didn’t know they existed. Do you have a link for the judges. I couldn’t find a source for that.
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They sound like a cult. I didn’t know they existed. Do you have a link for the judges. I couldn’t find a source for that.
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Technically, no. A belief is just a kind of epistemic attitude or position. An argument is a line of reasoning based on certain premises and inferences that tie the premises together to produce a conclusion.
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Why should it have to be in the Bible (it in fact is, but I want to address first your misguided judging of Catholicism by Protestant principles)? The Church preexisted the Bible, as did the authority that Christ invested in his disciples.
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They do have their own Bible. They're the ones who compiled and canonized it (and arguably wrote the NT). The Bible is more theirs than it is anyone else's.
I don't get how you equate those two things. I don't think molestation is part of their teachings. Is it a problem? Yes I guess it is. Maybe they need to do some internal cleaning. They can also decide who can or can't have communion. Hope you understand the difference.
U said their church their rules. So In other words maybe the Catholic Church needs to clean house before they start looking through other people’s window .. Hope you understand the difference that political view has nothing to do with and should have no part in biblical teaching. Interpretation of scripture is different than political opinion...
For the record, the Catholic Church DID NOT write the New Testament...I will explain ..
And please explain how a sinner can determine who can or can’t receive communion
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And I hope you understand that politics didn’t apply here as well. This was between a Catholic that strayed from his religious beliefs, then broadcasted it publicly. So when he walked into a church that Priest checked him and denied him communion because he forsook his beliefs. There is a difference between “yes I’m a Catholic but I’m pro abortion” and “yes I’m a Catholic and while abortion is against my own personal religious beliefs as your government representative I do understand that not everyone shares my beliefs and that some may feel it’s necessary for them”. Biden did the first and got his ass checked if he would have done the 2nd option he would have been fine.
I have absolutely no problem with your beliefs but what I am saying is that as a sinner it’s not your or the priest place to say who should or shouldn’t receive communion. You and the priest both need to clean your house before telling someone how to clean theirs ...
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And what you don’t understand is that Priest is given the authority to do just that within the walls of his church or house as you put it. You are equating the church as a whole from Vatican on down when you say “clean house” all that is above that Priest’s paygrade so to speak. Now if that Priest’s church is in order or house as you put it that he is personally responsible for then the Catholic Church as a whole grants him the power to do just that to anyone that walks within his church. He would have done that to anyone and most likely has done it to others, but biden is a public figure so it hit the news. Has the Catholic Church had issues yes it has, but they still give Priests that authority do deny communion. It’s like saying “yes there are bad cops, but before any cop can enforce the law they have to clean their own house first” in a utopian society we could do that but this is reality. There are bad cops but cops are still charged with enforcement of laws even though there are a few bad ones. One does not negate the other.
You missed the point ...This has nothing to do with the church granting one authority to do as they will (sort of speak). The Catholic Church opinion ( or belief as you stated about abortion) is just that - an opinion. Just because my opinion is different than yours doesn’t mean I am not entitled to communion..You are basing your logic on the church’s or mans authority../ I am basing mine on higher power and how the priest is breaking his covenant. So basically this goes back to the priest “s opinion compared to biblical teaching since there is no place in the Bible that suggest he has authority to deny anyone of communion. So unless you and the priest acknowledge all of the Bible then you and the priest are trivializing (or as I say pimping) the Bible for convenience..
Nothing like a member of an organization ( the Catholic Church ) that facilitates child molestation trying to paint Joe Biden as a bad Catholic for standing up for women having control of their own bodies ... hmmmmm
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What you don’t understand is it’s a belief system. If you want to be a part of it and call yourself one then you must play by the rules. Do some break the rules and not get caught. Yes do some break the rules, get caught and no action is taken, absolutely, and do some break the rules, get caught and then get punished, yes they do. No matter which one happens the rules are still there. Take the interstate highway. It’s full of all three examples. And when that cop pulls you over for speeding amongst all the other speeders even though he speeds himself in his own car when off duty the rule still exists and you still broke it. And saying “well you can’t ticket me because you speed or because you didn’t get all the other speeders is no excesses for speeding yourself.
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Nothing like a member of the Muslim religion saying it’s ok and required to stone to death a woman because she did something the men in her family thought was wrong. And not be legally punished for it. Don’t hear you talking about that when you bring up religion and women’s rights.
Don’t Pivot .. This discussion is about a Catholic priest invoking his opinion on another and denying him communion ...If Biden decides to become a Muslim then we can address it...
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Please show us anywhere that President Biden said "yes I’m a Catholic but I’m pro abortion” We'll wait......
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He does it every time he says that he catholic and then says he’s for abortion. If he were to make the distinction between personal beliefs with what he believes is a greater good for everyone then he would have been fine. He has never made the distinction. I get were you’re coming from but he needs to make it clear. Most of the country had issues and worries with JFK becoming president because they believed the Church was going to run the country through him, so he had to make the distinction between his personal beliefs and what was best for the nation as a whole.
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I’m not pivoting on anything, you’re making it very personal because something bad happened to poor biden, going as far as to say that the Catholic Church not only condones child molestation but also encourages and makes it happen is kind of grotesque. Has it happened yes unfortunately but those were individuals and they were punished both legally and excommunicated by the church. It’s never been condoned or facilitated by the church at all. If you think the Catholic Church authorizes that then you are grossly mistaken. You however broadened the spectrum when you brought advocating for women’s rights into the mix. So I brought up the Muslim faith and how representatives of that faith say it’s ok and expected for the men of a family to stone to death a woman for something the men believe was shameful. The men have now committed an religious sanction murder and not legally punished for it. I figured that since you brought up religion impeding on women’s rights then we could talk about the Muslims as well. Or is this really because biden was personally affected and has nothing to do about women’s rights.
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