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I dont understand how people are upset by this. A 7 person alliance isnt going to last when theres 10 people left in the game. Someone has to make a move to take people out. I am mildly mad how the chips fell and that its probably joseph that got screwed over, but it was found out last year though that no matter if youre 1st jury or 3rd place you still get the same weekly ($1/wk) participation pay so theres no pay risk to not make big moves. Thinking like yours where everyone in an alliance is happy and following the alliance leader(s) is why weve had 17 seasons of BB that were absolute blowouts and only have had 6 seasons where the finale was close. Say Kyle did use the veto last week and Alyssa went up, hes costing himself the one guaranteed vote he already had at the end if he made its just not logical.
The whole point was missed....my point is that it shud be no surprise that Kyle chose Alyssa. And we all know that showmances are gonna stick together, which was perfect reason to break it up.

And yes I get the point about not expecting alliances to last...
 

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Oh spare me the racial bias nonsense. I bet youre one of the people who speak 1 word about the cookout when they did the same damn thing Kyle suggested. Its no difference. So once again just proves my point youre ragging on Kyle cause you dont like him as a person. not that hes trying to make moves.
What Kyle has suggested isn't the same as the cookout. That's a false equivalency that simple minded people make, no offense. I liked Kyle, and had him picked as one them to probably win the season until he started the nonsense. There's a selfless aspect among other nuances that's missing when you try to frame it as the same.

Joseph watched last season & thought I need to get a group together, trust them regardless of what & get us all to the end, then battle it out. While Kyle looked at last season & thought I can't let these POC take control of the majority.

That aside, it would be smart of Kyle to take out Joseph, and Michael to take out Monte this week. But you have to go about the right way. The way Kyle attempted is how we end up with KKKyle.
 

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I can't stand Kyle and think he's hideous in all aspects. He's even physically unattractive. The whole essence of him -- a 30-year-old, racist, trumper who is unemployed & still lives at home with his mother -- gross.
Fr I never got the hype about Kyle's looks
 

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What Kyle has suggested isn't the same as the cookout. That's a false equivalency that simple minded people make, no offense. I liked Kyle, and had him picked as one them to probably win the season until he started the nonsense. There's a selfless aspect among other nuances that's missing when you try to frame it as the same.

Joseph watched last season & thought I need to get a group together, trust them regardless of what & get us all to the end, then battle it out. While Kyle looked at last season & thought I can't let these POC take control of the majority.

That aside, it would be smart of Kyle to take out Joseph, and Michael to take out Monte this week. But you have to go about the right way. The way Kyle attempted is how we end up with KKKyle.
it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
 

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it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
Exactly!
 
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it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
Oppressed, minority groups sticking together to overcome the oppressor is not the same as white people being programmed to categorically oppress (or in this case, evcict) minority groups as they've been taught that they're the superior race by western culture for centuries.Look at what's going on in the world, you absolute ass.
 

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Oppressed, minority groups sticking together to overcome the oppressor is not the same as white people being programmed to categorically oppress (or in this case, evcict) minority groups as they've been taught that they're the superior race by western culture for centuries.Look at what's going on in the world, you absolute ass.
ITS A GAME HOLY SHIT, nobody is being oppressed. Ive made this comparison before. If you watch survivor every time a group of women go off theres always talk about watching out for an all female alliance, yet nobody get irrate at it. The fact of the matter is that line of thinking was never a thing until the first successful all female alliance happened and its been common since. Now this same thing is happening on BB. Now that there was a successful alliance like the CO you cant blame someone for being on the look out for that. Its part of the game, which is why Julie basically defended Kyle cause its part of the game. If youre not looking at all possibilities then its your ass thats probably the next one out. Quit trying to use actual terrible life events to justify being mad at a game.
 

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ITS A GAME HOLY SHIT, nobody is being oppressed. Ive made this comparison before. If you watch survivor every time a group of women go off theres always talk about watching out for an all female alliance, yet nobody get irrate at it. The fact of the matter is that line of thinking was never a thing until the first successful all female alliance happened and its been common since. Now this same thing is happening on BB. Now that there was a successful alliance like the CO you cant blame someone for being on the look out for that. Its part of the game, which is why Julie basically defended Kyle cause its part of the game. If youre not looking at all possibilities then its your ass thats probably the next one out. Quit trying to use actual terrible life events to justify being mad at a game.
It is a game but social and racial biases aren't checked at the door. I'm not mad at a game. I understand societal challenges for minority groups, and you're behaving like an insane person.
 

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The difference is, the first 2 noms were poc, the second week, 1poc, 3rd week 2 poc, 4th week, 2 poc. So the optics were already back to normal BB, so what Kyle was thinking l, should have been out of place... and also why Michael and Brittany did not agree with his point of view.
 

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It is a game but social and racial biases aren't checked at the door. I'm not mad at a game. I understand societal challenges for minority groups, and you're behaving like an insane person.
You are mad at a game. If Kyle had said he didnt trust black people on his twitter or social media, i would 100% be on your side of the issue but youre mad at a game where unfortunately due to the cookout you do need to have that in your mind about an all black/minority alliance because if it happened once it could happen again.
 

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The difference is, the first 2 noms were poc, the second week, 1poc, 3rd week 2 poc, 4th week, 2 poc. So the optics were already back to normal BB, so what Kyle was thinking l, should have been out of place... and also why Michael and Brittany did not agree with his point of view.
But who went home. It doesnt matter who went up on the block it mattered who was left in the house when Kyle made his statement. Now if there had been 2-3 POC left and Kyle made that statement then hes just a jackasss but because there was literally enough to shift control I see it as a valid concern anyone who is strategizing should be concerned about. Also not much probably concerns Michael at this point, its been his game to lose since week 3.
 

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Now if there had been 2-3 POC left and Kyle made that statement then hes just a jackasss but because there was literally enough to shift control I see it as a valid concern anyone who is strategizing should be concerned about. Also not much probably concerns Michael at this point, its been his game to lose since week 3.
So we agree, Kyle's a jackass because your if statement happened. Ameerah was gone & Nicole, Pooch was the only white guy that had left. Faced with going on the block as a pawn to take it Daniel, with the numbers on his side, Kyle made that statement. Keep in mind as Kyle likes to remind everyone the leftovers was his plan.....
 

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it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
Nope. The cookout goal was to ensure a black winner for the first time. Kyle's goal was to better his chances to win by starting a race war in the house, Brittany, Michael & Turner clocked that & didn't want it to turn into that. The cookout weren't really playing individually games at that point. They didn't "other" people, are use coded language to get people to buy into what they were doing, like Kyle calling them "loud" & saying they will bully the whites. The cookout didn't even all get along, and fought for their non-cookout partners to stay as long as possible. Ultimately they were an alliance that formed early on & stuck together no matter what, they just happened to be all black. That has never been done, an alliance that size sticking together until the end. But that gets lost because all people see is race.
 

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it 100% is the damn same. The cookout actually is worse cause they went through and evicted everyone who is not black while Kyle suggested something. So come down off the high horse cause the hypocrisy is astounding come on down off your moral high horse. jesus. The fact of the matter is because of what the cookout did its always going to be in the back of people's minds now they were the ones who drew the line in the sand to say that it was an acceptable tactic to win the game.
Exactly! As a black person I agree!