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Most likely CBS producers switch people's ideas and minds during diary room visits. It's been leaked for many years CBS and Alison Grodner (head producer) basically script the show. They might as well have called this season the Cirieverse.
 

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This whole fake flip was so dumb.

They always should have taken Reilly out. She has too many allies and that side needs to be weakened.

Hisam is the house target now and Cameron is basically a lone wolf who barely anyone trusts either. So why get out Cameron now?

I've always thought getting Reilly out was the smarter move.

What isn't smart is getting her side's hopes up with fake alliances and sh*t. That is shady and unnecessary and will come back to haunt Cirie and Izzy....

I hope someone tips off Hisam that his closest allies are out to get him as well. He should be a lone wolf too to further complicate the house division.

Imagine Hisam winning HOH again and targeting Izzy with as much voracity and venom as he had for Reilly. I'd be loving life.
 

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This whole fake flip was so dumb.

They always should have taken Reilly out. She has too many allies and that side needs to be weakened.

Hisam is the house target now and Cameron is basically a lone wolf who barely anyone trusts either. So why get out Cameron now?

I've always thought getting Reilly out was the smarter move.

What isn't smart is getting her side's hopes up with fake alliances and sh*t. That is shady and unnecessary and will come back to haunt Cirie and Izzy....

I hope someone tips off Hisam that his closest allies are out to get him as well. He should be a lone wolf too to further complicate the house division.

Imagine Hisam winning HOH again and targeting Izzy with as much voracity and venom as he had for Reilly. I'd be loving life.
Hasim shouldn’t have told members of his alliance that he’s going to start throwing comps. His main point for them to keep him when they go after him next week should be that he’s a comp beast who they can use to take out threats like Matt and Red (who is surprisingly in shape) and that he can be used as a shield.
 

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I really want Cirie to be gone! She, Hisam, & Jerod can go. She is addicted to reality tv and doesn't even give "good tv" and after the incident with Luke, Jerod can walk his ass out too. I don't think it will get good until someone exposes them.
 

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This season without Cirie would be so much better. So many fighting to be up her ass with Izzy being almost stalkerish. All we see is Cirie talking to people so when the game is fixed to help her as much as possible it will be what a legend she is. A "Legend" would have won Survivor after 4 different seasons. Did anyone else catch Izzy and all the negative "brown people" talk concerning Hisam/Jag?
 

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Hasim shouldn’t have told members of his alliance that he’s going to start throwing comps. His main point for them to keep him when they go after him next week should be that he’s a comp beast who they can use to take out threats like Matt and Red (who is surprisingly in shape) and that he can be used as a shield.
Yeah he shouldn't have said it out loud just not won many more competitions unless it really was down to him or say someone he was scared would target him (or a very close ally) such as Matt.

At the same time people shouldn't just expect him to win all the competitions for their alliance. That is shady and weak AF.
 

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This season without Cirie would be so much better. So many fighting to be up her ass with Izzy being almost stalkerish. All we see is Cirie talking to people so when the game is fixed to help her as much as possible it will be what a legend she is. A "Legend" would have won Survivor after 4 different seasons. Did anyone else catch Izzy and all the negative "brown people" talk concerning Hisam/Jag?
So you’d say Janelle isn’t a Big Brother legend?
 

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And Cirie is a legend of social strategy. Unfortunately hasn’t resulted in either of them winning in the end.
The issue with Cirie is she's already getting mean when she doesn't get her way. They want to target Hisam cause he was "arrogant" but if someone was in an alliance with me and won 3/4 comps keeping me safe they can be as arrogant as they want lol

If Hisam leaves week 3 the rest will follow. Also the house is annoyed with Izzy and Cirie right now because they keep going back and forth on the flip stuff.

And something tells me production wants an underdog in Hisam which he is becoming. I thought it was weird all last week Jared kept telling people to go and get to know Hisam better blah blah blah. I think Hisam or Matt might be the chosen winners by production this year.
 

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This whole fake flip was so dumb.

They always should have taken Reilly out. She has too many allies and that side needs to be weakened.

Hisam is the house target now and Cameron is basically a lone wolf who barely anyone trusts either. So why get out Cameron now?

I've always thought getting Reilly out was the smarter move.

What isn't smart is getting her side's hopes up with fake alliances and sh*t. That is shady and unnecessary and will come back to haunt Cirie and Izzy....

I hope someone tips off Hisam that his closest allies are out to get him as well. He should be a lone wolf too to further complicate the house division.

Imagine Hisam winning HOH again and targeting Izzy with as much voracity and venom as he had for Reilly. I'd be loving life.

Yes, I would love to see Hisam nominate and eliminate Izzy & Cirie. They are vile human beings.

The things they were doing and saying yesterday crossed the line into bullying and bigotry for me. I doubt they will show most of it on TV but I will summarize here:

They basically created a whole narrative that Hisam was going around to the young "hot" players trying to form alliances with them to get away from his "fat useless old leftover" alliance with Izzy, Cirie, Felicia, Red, etc. Like they were going in on him. They played up the gay stereotype of being vain and theatrical, saying that of course he was trying to be with the "hot" ppl the whole time and that all of his talk of inclusivity, equal rights, anti-agism, etc was fake. They said they "couldnt wait to see the pain in his eyes" when he finds out he's been betrayed. They laughed and said he would probably so "over the top dramatic and theatrical," "throw a tantrum," once it happens on live tv. They were all laughing at him. Cursing. Even Felicia. IT WAS HORRIFYING. They mocked the way he speaks and holds his hands and face. They went and told Jag and Blue that Hisam was "exploiting inclusivity" out of greed. That he was using their ethnicities against them. Blue was horrifed, saying she thought he was genuine but now she sees that he was targeting her due to her ethnicity. Jag agreed. They went to the entire house calling him "disgusting" "dispicable" "dangerous"... I mean it was BAD. Cirie kept saying she doesnt like any "g*ddamn brown (asian/arab) deals. No Queer deals." Izzy was cheering her on. Like it was really disturbing.

As the day went on, Twitter flipped from ragging on Hisam, calling him stuck up and a 'dictator' (pretty problematic term for an arab person), to having a lot of compassion for him. People started turning on Cirie in a major way. By late night, it was pretty bad for Cirie... Twitter ppl calling her an idiot, failure, fraud, loser...

By morning (with what I believe is Producer interference) the flip suddenly reversed back. I think the damage to Cirie and Izzy's game is done though. Not sure how they could ever come back from going so deep and personal against someone that did nothing but support and help them. Hisam is bound to find out as well. Meme was so pissed about all of it. They were trying to bully her to vote Reilly out. BB Twitter is kind of confused now because Cirie was so much of a fan favorite when the season started but she's the villain of the season rn and like everyone is like WTF LOL
 

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And Cirie is a legend of social strategy. Unfortunately hasn’t resulted in either of them winning in the end.
She's just a master of lying. Sandra is the legend of social strategy. She earned the respect and votes of other contestants. Cirie earned neither. Her strategy is to lie and make unneeded promises and tell people she loves them, then gest mean and really hurts people she's pledged loyalty too. So she's a legendary final loser. Her stategy always failed in Survivor because she unnecessarily hurt people. I think she enjoys it. Gets some twisted high like it makes her smarter than people that trust her.. It will be interesting to see if the BB house falls for it or all turn on her at the end when they discover she doesn't "love" anyone but herself.
 

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The issue with Cirie is she's already getting mean when she doesn't get her way. They want to target Hisam cause he was "arrogant" but if someone was in an alliance with me and won 3/4 comps keeping me safe they can be as arrogant as they want lol

If Hisam leaves week 3 the rest will follow. Also the house is annoyed with Izzy and Cirie right now because they keep going back and forth on the flip stuff.

And something tells me production wants an underdog in Hisam which he is becoming. I thought it was weird all last week Jared kept telling people to go and get to know Hisam better blah blah blah. I think Hisam or Matt might be the chosen winners by production this year.
Nope it's gonna be Cirie and Jared to the end. Izzy will make it far most likely so we can see Cirie stab her in the back while she smiles. Poor stupid Izzy.
 
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And Cirie is a legend of social strategy. Unfortunately hasn’t resulted in either of them winning in the end.
oof i dunno. "social strategy" is difficult to define. I think there's a difference between 'social game' and 'strategy/manipulation.' Janelle is also a social game legend.. she wold have won almost unanimously with any of the juries of her seasons, won america's favorite (more than once maybe?). Cirie is a master manipulator or 'puppetmaster' but has lost every time she has gone in front of a jury.