Bill Maher on Obama [accurate, concise]

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  1. B_starinvestor

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    It is imperative that anyone interested in politics view episode 154 (if you have On Demand) ...in which Maher accurately gauges Obama's performance and foolish publicity stunts.

    He's [Maher] a smug prick, but still very intelligent.

    Here are a few excerpts:

    "Obama's credit card bill is bullshit. They still allow 30% interest rates. What have they really accomplished? There is a provision in the bill that allows people to carry a gun in a state park. So when you are buried in debt, you can now have a scenic place to kill yourself."

    "sorry to offend the liberals...but we gotta worship principles, not people"

    "Obama is not redesigning the system, he is still giving money away to the corrupt, Wall Street criminals he went to Harvard with."

    "The credit card bill doesn't even address the problem. 30%? One-eyed Tony in Little Italy didn't even charge that."

    "What is Obama's answer to healthcare? Electronic billing records. Yeah. That's the root of the problem."

    "What happened to Mr. Change we can believe in?"

    "Obama says, there are some people we can't really try, because their cases are tainted. Why can't you try tainted cases? Aren't all cases tainted? You try the case you have, not the case you want."

    "Obama isn't religious. He said he was to get elected." No shit.:rolleyes:

    "How does Obama punish a bank robber? He writes them a check."

    This episode pretty much sums it all up; and this is from a liberal television host.

    It is evident that, perhaps, 5% of the population, the minority that is intelligent, can see through the facade that has been created by Obama.

    The other 95% will continue to be hoodwinked and brazen with adulation with his silver tongue.

    If some people could set aside their partisan stubborness, they could see what is going on.
     
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    I love Bill (Maher and Clinton). Obama is a politician not a savior, and he is good at his job of being a politician. Maher is a comedian with a political audience and he is very good at his job. Anytime I force myself to talk politics I have to mention Clinton, he was so damn good at doing his job he got in trouble for having sex, talk about nit picking.
     
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    well, Clinton made his own bed on that one.

    He was an excellent president, but you cannot really consider it "nit picking" that folks got so pissed off about the fact that he was getting blown by a 20 year old in the Oval Office.

    If you *NEED* to have sex, and you *NEED* to cheat on your wife, and you absolutely *MUST* do it, and you *ARE* the President of the United States, for god sake, do it at a hotel or at Camp David or *ANYWHERE* other than the Oval Office.

    Seriously, how stupid can someone as intelligent as Clinton be?

    you have a ton of opposition people who you know would use anything to get you and take a shot at you, from a metaphorical standpoint... as is the case in all politics, and you hand them the gun and load the bullets into the chamber.

    He got himself into that mess, regardless of the fact that he was a good president.

    frankly, I miss those days when he was president...he was the last moderate we have had, and likely will have for a very long time.
     
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    well, even though Obama still does the same shit that other politicians do, that doesn't hurt his t-shirt and poster sales none.

    i find that really amusing.
     
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    We dems should be critcal of Obama. Obama is still finding his stride, learning how to grease the wheels of Congress and compromise. For all you tired conservatives with your talk of "Barack the Magic Negro", he is, in fact, not a magic negro. He is just a man.


    BUT. He has good old-fashioned plain common sense. He's pragmatic and down-to-earth. He listens. Seeks advice. He has a social and environmental conscience. He is not a blustering, fumbling bully. He's direct; doesn't treat the american people like they're goony 10-year-old kids and talk down to them (like that endless "happy talk" George W. Bush constantly delivered.... "Progress is bein' made! Al Qaeda is on the run!... he he he... we got 'em runnin'!.... gonna smoke him out of his cave.... We've made a lot of progress, and I am pleased with the progress we've made, but fully recognize we've got a lot more work to do... the people who knocked these buildings down will be taken to task!")


    Bill Maher criticizes Obama, yet still is an avid Obama supporter.

    Pick any 2012 match up.

    Obama v. Sarah Palin

    Obama v. Newt Gingrich

    Obama v. Dick Cheney

    The truly decent conservatives like Colin Powell are being forced out of the party.



    Bill Maher detests the religious wing of the republican party as much as Christopher Hitchens. And the religious social cons are practically all that's left of the conservative movement.

    The modern conservative movement is more preoccupied with abortion and gay rights than economics. I'm talking about the grassroots level, the folks who craft the agendas. Yes, fiscal conservatives may wave around tea bags in protest, yet they're too afraid to cut that cancerous social con wing out of the party. They're over a third of the votes. The cancer cells take over the host.



    Here's a fine commentary on christians in general and social conservatives in particular, ending the New Rules segment a couple weeks back:

    YouTube - Bill Maher NEW RULES May 1, 2009 10 52 PM
     
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    There's a difference between being critical, like in the case of Bill Maher, and being rabidly focused on his failure, such as the OP.
     
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    True. I find Mem's Rat far more interesting than anything the OP has to say.
     
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    i don't watch much television, but i seriously hope bill maher is spending an equal (or greater) amount of time kicking dick cheney's ass, and kicking the media (including CNN) that continues to cover cheney as anything more than just another private citizen with an opinion. first things first.
     
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    Maher is smug, but funny. Love the quotes, and agree with them. What I don't agree with is your conclusion. As you'll recall Obama was the only alternative to McCain, who was unapologetically Bush3. Rightfully after 8 years, the country wanted no more of that. Barack will continue to stumble, perhaps, unlike Bush, he will learn from his mistakes. I hope he is ultimately as smart as his rhetoric. Only time will tell.
     
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    thanks for the feedback.

    obviously, Maher nailed it.

    Obama is a sham.
     
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    FESTOR........showing his patriotism on memorial day. A TRUE American!:unitedstates: To show you what a pal i am.....i will forward your Patriotic sentiment on to the White House.....once again. You know, you could just send your bull-shit messages of hate to our President your-self. But you know it......and we know it.....you are way too much of a coward to do that.
    Your Pal,
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    Maher is not a liberal in the political sense. It's a mistake to think he is. Maher is a (small 'L') libertarian and freely admits it. There's a big difference. He is cynical about everybody who runs for office in the good tradition of Will Rogers and a host of other political humorists.
     
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    Jas...c'mon.

    You know he's a liberal.

    He says it on every single show.

    Luv ya, dude. But c'mon.
     
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    No, I know of no such thing. Generally espousing a political ideology does not make one a slave to it. Believing abortion should be illegal is not necessary to be a Republican no matter how much the Christian right wing demands it.

    More and more I find ideologues claiming that political affiliation should be an all-or-nothing affair even for members of their own party with whom they disagree, much like Cheney is trying to do to Colin Powell. This seems more a problem of late within the GOP but I've seen it in the Dems too with the gay marriage issue.

    Ideologues are scary people because they do not tolerate dissent from their views. I think it's a naive and impractical political position to take no matter what side of the aisle you sit. While this is all well and fine for the average person, when one is elected or appointed to office, the first oath one takes is to serve the people and the Constitution, not an ideology.

    Be a person, not a walking label.
     
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    Actually, Bill Maher is more of an independent that leans to the left. If you want to be technical. He spoke very highly of Ron Paul at one time, referring to himself as his "new hero". YouTube - Ron Paul is Bill Maher's New Hero

    And he's also been pretty critical on Democrats. YouTube - Bill Maher On Pussy Democrats, Conniving Republican Manipulators

    Here's part of a transcript from another show where he criticized Democrats as well. Although the person posting the story is trying to twist the dialogue into some kind of victory for Faux, completely misinterpreting the message. :rolleyes:
    Dan Rather and Bill Maher Rip Democrats Over Fox News Debate Fiasco | NewsBusters.org

    And he has been critical on Obama. But unlike many of the anti-Obama supporters on this board, he's actually approaching his policies with logic and common sense, and isn't predicting doom and despair because he's doing something you don't agree with. Even if he's a comedian, he's one of the more intelligent people on the subject of politics and doesn't have a problem calling bullshit whenever he finds it necessary to make it an issue. Think about this next time you want to make a sweeping generalization about "liberals".
     
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    I doubt anyone gave a shit about him getting blown...it was his ridiculously squirrely equivocation and outright perjury over the blowjobs that really got him into trouble.

    Roger that.
     
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    For the record, I don't 'hate' Obama.

    I just know he is a liar, a cheater, a hoax, and he is extremely intelligent and thinks he can hoodwink 95% of Americans - which he is succeeding in doing.

    Mindless drones will continue to salivate to his every word.

    Get a napkin, PYM.
     
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    Silly Dick-Head.....your own words always say so much differently. The White House IS aware of you. :wink:
     
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    congratulations on being the unheralded champion of ignorance and stupidity out of thousands of people I have known in my life.

    What a raging fool you are.
     
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    I'm here for you FESTOR.
     
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