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I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't find this to be terribly offensive. It addresses heterosexual "offenses" (cohabitation, premarital sex, porn) the same way it does homosexual ones so it's not bigoted. I'd feel they're big fat hypocrites if they allowed premarital sex and such but dropped the hammer on gay stuff only.

I don't see why this is a big deal. This is a private, Christian school where there's a choice to go there or not.
 

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Premarital sex, porn, and cohabitation are all choices. One does not choose their sexuality. It's simply who they are.

No, the school doesn't require staff to sign an affidavit to swear off premarital sex. The school specifically is prejudice against homosexual people.

As far as I know, no student has been expelled from having heterosexual premarital sex. Only gay or trans students are banned.
 

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#abolishprivateschools.

Fuck private education.

Ok, not literally... But I don't support privatized education.

@lurker23 ... The KIDS don't get to decide which school they attend. It's their parents who force their ideology onto their kids.
 
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Karen Pence is a bigot, plain and simple. She is a bad person, a bad woman, and a shitty example for young people to follow. And she's the 2nd lady of the United States. I am ashamed of my country right now.

Schools which don't allow non-heterosexual students to attend should themselves not be allowed to exist. Segregation is still happening in the modern world and it's disgusting.
 

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#abolishprivateschools.

Fuck private education.

Ok, not literally... But I don't support privatized education.

@lurker23 ... The KIDS don't get to decide which school they attend. It's their parents who force their ideology onto their kids.
So? Do you think those parents would choose to teach those students differently? All children are indoctrinated, one way or another. Someone has to teach them. Whosever teaches them will impart biases, and parental guidance can only be directed by the principles of the parent.

I do support the existence of private education. I do not believe in permitting the government to have total say in the education of those in a position to provide an alternative. Moreover, as security becomes an increasingly serious concern from elementary through higher education, I see it as a glaring infringement on a parent's right to choose for their own family to abolish any educational alternatives. I went to public schools and got a decent, if incomplete education. My friends who went to religious parochial schools are less well-read, less well-traveled, less well-rounded but better connected. There's always a trade-off. I wouldn't, if I had become a mother, and if I could make it work, choose to send my family to either type of facility. I would prefer greater control.

There are still schools just for boys, or just for girls. I wouldn't choose to expose my family to that kind of segregation either, but I don't oppose it. It takes all kinds to make the world spin. Let those people isolate themselves. Good for them. Good for us. Frankly, I wouldn't feel like my relatives would be safe in a school like the one employing Karen Pence. I like when the assholes band together and stay where I can see them.
 

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So? Do you think those parents would choose to teach those students differently? All children are indoctrinated, one way or another. Someone has to teach them. Whosever teaches them will impart biases, and parental guidance can only be directed by the principles of the parent.

I do support the existence of private education. I do not believe in permitting the government to have total say in the education of those in a position to provide an alternative. Moreover, as security becomes an increasingly serious concern from elementary through higher education, I see it as a glaring infringement on a parent's right to choose for their own family to abolish any educational alternatives. I went to public schools and got a decent, if incomplete education. My friends who went to religious parochial schools are less well-read, less well-traveled, less well-rounded but better connected. There's always a trade-off. I wouldn't, if I had become a mother, and if I could make it work, choose to send my family to either type of facility. I would prefer greater control.

There are still schools just for boys, or just for girls. I wouldn't choose to expose my family to that kind of segregation either, but I don't oppose it. It takes all kinds to make the world spin. Let those people isolate themselves. Good for them. Good for us. Frankly, I wouldn't feel like my relatives would be safe in a school like the one employing Karen Pence. I like when the assholes band together and stay where I can see them.

That's why I put the "not literally" part in there.

I would never EVER send my kid to private school no matter how much money I had. Just speaking for myself.
 
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I'm good with private schools as a general concept. My mini me attends one. They are on the spectrum and go somewhere that they are knowledgeable/trained to help with that.

Hateful bullshit can happen anywhere. Even with homeschooling.
 
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I'm good with private schools as a general concept. My mini me attends one. They are on the spectrum and go somewhere that they are knowledgeable/trained to help with that.

Hateful bullshit can happen anywhere. Even with homeschooling.

Of course.

I hope the "not literally" part wasn't completely lost.. I strongly don't want My kids in privatized schooling, for reasons other than what I've stated here... But I don't want to actually abolish them.

Just for clarification.
 

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This is the terrifying part if all this :scream:
Parental indoctrination is nearly unavoidable. I'm not worried about how hateful people are raising their families. I can only be the best influence I'm able, set the best example I can for the younger people I know. I'd like to think if I had become a mother, they could do a lot worse than an education controlled and directed by me. I wanted to be home schooled. I found public school overwhelming, as the social aspects go, and retrospectively realize the focus was a bit misguided, and not ideal for my learning style. I graduated valedictorian from an alternative school (still a public high school) after struggling in a more traditional setting specifically for nerds. I outscored thousands of other intelligent students on competitive exams to get I to that nerd school in the first place, but it turned out what I needed to thrive was more freedom. Just some guidelines and a weekly check-in, and the creative license to design my own education based upon the stated goals of the board of education. I went from the bottom half of my class to number one. The crazy thing is my grades were so low at the first school primarily because I wasn't attending classes or doing the assigned work. I was teaching myself every subject through books, experiments, and field trips. When I'd go to class they'd be many chapters behind me, and clueless. Meanwhile, wrinkles and gray hair were common there. It was a very challenging, demanding atmosphere (Bronx High School of Science). I didn't belong there, academically. I'm too autodidactic.

My mother had neither the means nor the desire to home school me. She lied my way into the best district for primary, and then my own talent got me through high school, and into a decent college. There were not as many resources for home schooling anyway. But my experiences opened my mind to it, and the state of the nation cemented my preference.
 

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Parental indoctrination is nearly unavoidable. I'm not worried about how hateful people are raising their families. I can only be the best influence I'm able, set the best example I can for the younger people I know. I'd like to think if I had become a mother, they could do a lot worse than an education controlled and directed by me. I wanted to be home schooled. I found public school overwhelming, as the social aspects go, and retrospectively realize the focus was a bit misguided, and not ideal for my learning style. I graduated valedictorian from an alternative school (still a public high school) after struggling in a more traditional setting specifically for nerds. I outscored thousands of other intelligent students on competitive exams to get I to that nerd school in the first place, but it turned out what I needed to thrive was more freedom. Just some guidelines and a weekly check-in, and the creative license to design my own education based upon the stated goals of the board of education. I went from the bottom half of my class to number one. The crazy thing is my grades were so low at the first school primarily because I wasn't attending classes or doing the assigned work. I was teaching myself every subject through books, experiments, and field trips. When I'd go to class they'd be many chapters behind me, and clueless. Meanwhile, wrinkles and gray hair were common there. It was a very challenging, demanding atmosphere (Bronx High School of Science). I didn't belong there, academically. I'm too autodidactic.

My mother had neither the means nor the desire to home school me. She lied my way into the best district for primary, and then my own talent got me through high school, and into a decent college. There were not as many resources for home schooling anyway. But my experiences opened my mind to it, and the state of the nation cemented my preference.

The reason I worry about other people's kids: mine would have to interact with them.

I don't try to raise everyone's kids or tell people how they should raise them, but I do concern myself with how the next generation is being brought up.

I don't know what's best for everyone, but I do want the best for everyone.

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Semi-related ML mini-rant.

Teaching children religious intolerance *of all faiths* or to be radically bigotted should fall under the header of child-abuse.

Those parents, through actions and examples, are interfering with the child's ability to grow up as a human being that will be able to function in the world at large. From holding down a job to having relationships to not being a danger to other human beings. That type of hindering and misguidance should be criminal. :mad:

Also... too many fucking people have too many damn kids. One more Duggers spin-off and I start spiking the water supply with salt peter.
 

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The reason I worry about other people's kids: mine would have to interact with them.

I don't try to raise everyone's kids or tell people how they should raise them, but I do concern myself with how the next generation is being brought up.

I don't know what's best for everyone, but I do want the best for everyone.

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I feel the same way. I just figure we grew up with their asshole parents, and the world still spins. It'll be okay. You impart your good principles and wisdom, you share your traditions, and it'll be fine.
 

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it'll be fine.

I thought that until Trump got elected. Now, when I see MAGA teens harassing First Nation Elders. Then bolding trying to pass their actions off as self-defense?

I say Maynard J. Keenan is right and it's time to flush it all away.
 
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This behavior isn't new.

Not new by a long shot. But freshly normalized. Before Trump mid-range racists had enough sense to be shamed into behind-closed door antics. The current political climate is rewarding the worst of human nature with acceptance and notoriety.

I wanna feed Tommi Lahren and Alex Jones bleach rocks.