;)bisexual is better

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Dag: Being a former Bisexual, straight boy and finally at 35 I came out. OMG, guess what gang... Dag's a fag! I show no bias towards Bi's, Straight's, or Gay's... Hmmm... I might have felt jealous (when I was still dating women) about my gay friends, but that was about it.

Be yourself... be Bi, Straight or Gay. It's all good to me - dag

 

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blo1988: Dee, your perspective about gay vs bi prejudices may change with time, mine did. Particularly as I got a bit older and my concern about my own sexual identity was more settled. The college/graduate school years are still pretty chronologically close to the years in which men are sensitive about sexual stereotypes, social inclusion, etc.
As I got a little older, watched people die in hospital beds, went through a failing marriage, and fell in love with a good Catholic boy my perspective on the relative importance of many things changed.
I don't think that gays are any more uncomfortable with bisexuals than straight people are with gays ,or whatever;you pick the combination. I think that culturally we are just fucking neurotic about what we do with our dicks and how we label it.
The labels for sexuality are not really very useful. They end up being like political labels. They are shorthand. They paint with a very broad and sometimes inaccurate brush.
If I suck three dicks and eat three pussies am I a perfect bisexual??? If I have sex with ten women and fall in love with my best male friend am I straight??? If I am emotionally attracted to men but only function sexually with women am I heterosexual, or just a tortured homosexual??? If a man discovers love in middle age with another man and decides to leave his wife and children was he heterosexual who "turned" homosexual ,or bisexual, or an unaware homosexual?
Well, fuck if I know. It sounds like political labels to me. If you vote for two Republicans and four Democrats what are you? It also sounds like there are a lot of folks out there who aren't very aware of their bisexuality.
Well, who the fuck should care?
I don't know.
But I know this, life reveals itself to us all. We are all capable of things yet undiscovered. Insight comes through pain quite often.
........and what we do with our dicks is far less important than having the peace and wisdom to embrace genuine intimacy when we find it. Fucking is pretty easy....but enduring intimacy .....now that is tough.
Peace.................

By the way Dee....as an aside, I love your posts. They make me think.

 

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blo1988: Please excuse the smileys...I just noted that they can be disabled.

 

[cork8x6]

I don't mean to mess up the flow of conversation on this particular thread, but I just had to convey this thought:

I've been a member of a few other forums and I've been amazed at the exchanges on many of the threads throughout this group and this one is no exception. The discussions are mature, well presented and enlightening. I don't think many people would expect such behavior from a group of which it's moniker has to do with large penises. I say...let them think what they want, right?

Kudos to all here. I look forward to more and more intelligent conversations as we have here.

 

[jdoe86]

Hey Dag, it's great that you came out. I would go one way or another, but everytime I tend toward one sex, I miss what the other has to offer. I just can't give up dick & pussy. The best part is both sexes have ass & mouth. I have even dated TS to get the best of both worlds. I think I need a cute hermerphidite(i hope i spelled that right). LOL ;D
And by the way, this is the best forum out there. I keep coming back.

 

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Dag: [quote author=cork8x6 link=board=meetgreet;num=1056566246;start=40#43 date=07/03/03 at 05:18:32]I don't mean to mess up the flow of conversation on this particular thread, but I just had to convey this thought:

I've been a member of a few other forums and I've been  amazed at the exchanges on many of the threads throughout this group and this one is no exception.  The discussions are mature, well presented and enlightening.  I don't think many people would expect such behavior from a group of which it's moniker has to do with large penises.  I say...let them think what they want, right?

Kudos to all here.  I look forward to more and more intelligent conversations as we have here.[/quote]


You too cork8x6! as well as your website. right on, 'thumbs up!'
this being my 2nd day on LPSG, i'm feeling that this message board one of the best, most enlightening boards I have encountered.

- dag

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Geo, I have met a couple of true hermaphrodites and know something of the plumbing. If you're the least bit squeamish, that's not what you're looking for.

 

[txquis]

Yeah, welcome Dag...
I was bi too for many years...
but now i call myself gay.

i enjoyed sex with women, but
i also have an emotional
connection with a guy...along with the
physical,
so...once i realized that, i
chose to hop the fence completely.
no regrets.

i discovered my sexuality later in life
(i'm in my thirties now, too).
Better late than....

 

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AnonyMs: While I quite agree with you, believe me... we have our days! But those are generally short lived....

Welcome!

 

[jdoe86]

I have only seen hermerphidites in medical text books. If there was a way to make it fuckable, then I would be in heaven. I have never had a emotional attachement to men. I like the sex too much to get that attached. Maybe I'm a slut. More sex is better for me, doesn't matter if its male or female.

 

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TripodMillenium: Well, getting to topic - I like being bi. (especially because that is part of who I am) It really does suit me, I feel - since I am, in all respects - platonic and not, rather an omniphile... (I'm not sure if that word is in any dictionary, but I pasted together the proper root words, so everyone should get my drift ) In this world there isn't much I don't like, or much I am enthralled with - my appreciation is really spread around quite evenly... (one of the main reasons I can't pick what I will go to College for.... but that isn't pertinant <sp?> here)

There is something that bothers me about being bi.... Whether someone is gay or straight, they can count on having an ENTIRE gender of people that they are not likely to be attracted to, so in making friendships they don't have to worry about those feelings being there... But by being bi, I don't have that... Put me in either locker room and I will be fighting a hard-on.... So, that is the negative side for me, because, sometimes a person just needs to relate with people with only the head on top of his shoulders doing the talking and thinking... Sometimes you just need to not have to worry about all that with people... I don't have that.... The other person has to be QUITE unattractive for me not to, at least, be tossing around thoughts and stealing glances.... It's like playing a game, and when you ask "what are the field's boundary lines" you are told - "there are none, the Earth is the only boundary." Eventually you're going to get tired of chasing the ball all across the countryside!

I do have to add that I think at least women should appreciate us bi guys more... How often do you find a GUY into guys who isn't all the way there? (if you are wondering what I am getting at, think about what mostly ends up happening when a guy and a girl decide to make it a threesome.... usually the girl finds herself in bed with her boyfriend and another girl - because that is all her boyfriend is comfortable with.... Think of how many more happy women there would be if their boyfriends said "sure, I'll see if _so-and-so_ would like to join in, I hear he's pretty hung..." ;D )

Oh, speaking of gray areas in sexuality - as someone was earlier, I would also fit that well...
I rate as about a 4.0-4.5 on the Kinsey Scale. (depending on how I'm feeling that day ) {the Kinsey Scale can be found at: <http://www.lgbtcampus.org/resources/training/kinsey_scale.html> for those who don't know about it...}

Well, that's it for my post.....




Esse humanum est bonum, esse laeta!

 

[jdoe86]

Well according to that scale, I'm a 2.95. I just this side of hetero( I have had more female lovers than male). I take back my need for a hermephridite. I want a couple with a hung bi-male. :

 

[B_black10inches]

This how I look at "bisexuality" especially on the LPSG. I'm not physically attracted to guys. I can't see myself kissing a guy, or fucking a guy or sucking a guy. Falling in love with a guy doesn't make it for me either. But since females can do all those things, then I think that guys must be attractive to women for many reasons. It's not that simple. If a female thinks I'm attractive, can I see myself through her eyes? or is that too "gay". I try to see what my g/f finds attractive about me, including my dick. So far, I'm with her on that one. I think I've got a nice dick. So the next step is to see other guy's dicks as "nice" too. If I end up doing that, will I be bisexual, or just "dick-sexual"? I'm still working on this.

 

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H8Monga: [quote author=black10inches link=board=meetgreet;num=1056566246;start=40#52 date=07/09/03 at 19:35:56]This how I look at "bisexuality" especially on the LPSG. I'm not physically attracted to guys. I can't see myself kissing a guy, or fucking a guy or sucking a guy. Falling in love with a guy doesn't make it for me either. But since females can do all those things, then I think that guys must be attractive to women for many reasons. It's not that simple. If a female thinks I'm attractive, can I see myself through her eyes? or is that too "gay". I try to see what my g/f finds attractive about me, including my dick. So far, I'm with her on that one. I think I've got a nice dick. So the next step is to see other guy's dicks as "nice" too. If I end up doing that, will I be bisexual, or just "dick-sexual"? I'm still working on this.[/quote]

I don't think you'd be bi-sexual. You won't have any feelings for that guy especially if it was just a body part. Women admire each other's figures and guys sometimes admire the work other guys have put into their bodies... none of that makes them bi or gay. Seeing a penis and maybe making a comment on it won't make you lustful or change your orientation.

Trying to see through your girl's eyes is a wonderful concept. I wonder how many have tried that. I think many remain baffled about what their mate sees in them. Sometimes I look in the mirror and see a great-looking guy and wonder why aren't there girls trying to tear the walls away from the house to get to me. I may say, "Well hell, I'd marry you!" jokingly, but because I think I'm... *ahem* sexy... won't make me run after guys.

Although I want about an inch to an inch and a half more length to my penis, I still think I have a great aesthetic pee wee... nothing wrong with admiring your own, just don't become narcissistic about it! I look at others' online, but doing that doesn't make me want them or any other guy. Don't worry.

 

[B_black10inches]

[quote author=Chubby-Sexy link=board=meetgreet;num=1056566246;start=40#53 date=07/09/03 at 22:57:30]

I don't think you'd be bi-sexual. You won't have any feelings for that guy especially if it was just a body part. Women admire each other's figures and guys sometimes admire the work other guys have put into their bodies... none of that makes them bi or gay. Seeing a penis and maybe making a comment on it won't make you lustful or change your orientation.

Trying to see through your girl's eyes is a wonderful concept. I wonder how many have tried that. I think many remain baffled about what their mate sees in them. Sometimes I look in the mirror and see a great-looking guy and wonder why aren't there girls trying to tear the walls away from the house to get to me. I may say, "Well hell, I'd marry you!" jokingly, but because I think I'm... *ahem* sexy... won't make me run after guys.  

Although I want about an inch to an inch and a half more length to my penis, I still think I have a great aesthetic pee wee... nothing wrong with admiring your own, just don't become narcissistic about it! I look at others' online, but doing that doesn't make me want them or any other guy. Don't worry.[/quote]


I'm not bisexual. I'm just thinking about this stuff. I'm wondering if all or most guys want to look at other guy's dicks, or is this something that guys with big ones are more interested in? I mean, I've had this big thing hanging there for as long as I can remember, so it's an important part of me. I like the way it feels and looks when it's hard(& soft). I think it looks sexy, so I'm naturally interested in other big ones too. This is some kind of fascination that a lot of guys & girls have whether they admit it or not. Just my ramblings.

 

[D_Martin van Burden]

[quote author=black10inches link=board=meetgreet;num=1056566246;start=40#54 date=07/09/03 at 23:10:08]I'm wondering if all or most guys want to look at other guy's dicks, or is this something that guys with big ones are more interested in?[/quote]

Being on the LPSG for a while, I have come across quite a few guys who are -- let's say -- pretty relaxed about discussing dicks. The guys fall on all levels. Some of them are gay, are attracted to men's bodies sexually, and get a lot of pleasure from a well-endowed man. Some of them have accosted me for dick pictures and sexual innuendo once I told my size. Some feel the way I do -- straight, but definitely not narrow -- and don't mind discussing bodies, aesthetics, things like that. BB and I were discussing such phenomenon -- how, in this case, she's undressed and dressed in front of women all her life, that she's comfortable with her body, that she can affirmatively say _____ woman is really attractive, and so forth -- and have come to realize that, well, men can and do feel something similar. What I mean is, men probably appraise and check each other out as much as they do women. What are some qualities to admire? A well-built body, for one; maybe a confident swagger, a detailed interest in sports and other diversions; a connosieur of fine wines, travel, adventure; and in the locker room, we'll sneak a peek at someone who's well built above or below the belt. It's just unspoken; men don't have the expressionary privilege women do (for fear of maintaining a masculine image, a straight identity, etc.).

Don't get me wrong. I think if a big guy runs into another big guy there's going to be some sort of connection there -- even if it's a brief nod to affirm, "Man, we're packing huge ones, aren't we?" Sometimes it's a bit more direct than that.

I wouldn't get carried away so soon. There's nothing wrong with having an interest in your well-endowed brethren so long as it doesn't get you into interpersonal trouble.

 

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joe22xxx: Dee,
Great post. I think this is getting down to where the social norms for women and men are so different that most guys have a hard time expressing any appreciation for each other at all. I'm from an italian-american family & the guys all kiss each other when they say hello because it's a cultural thing. The women and men also express it if they think someone is attractive, like "bello" or "bella". Liking my own cock is part of that. I think I have a "beautiful cock", whatever the hell that means. It's big, straight and shaped in a way I can appreciate. I guess this is subjective. Other guys in my family (cousins) have said they think I've got a "nice" cock. When we guys can start liking ourselves(bodies,minds,cocks,etc) without being ego-driven in a positve or negative way, that will be a good thing for everyone. My two cents.

 

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blo1988: The beauty of this format is that it offers the opportunity to let your guard down and express feelings that you might not ordinarily have the courage or opportunity to explore. It is a little like group therapy.
A terrific deal for anyone, but especially for someone in the 15-25 year range. These are particularly dynamic and testosterone charged years in which there is a lot of sexual sorting out. There is is so much social instruction about what is "right" or "wrong" in an Anglo-Saxon-Christian culture that we actually spend time thinking about whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking at another guy's dick, or how often we jerk off, etc.
Damn.
I certainly have been there.
A digression: it sounds like a pretty good thing to come from an Italian/Greek background...at least in terms of expressing one's affection or attraction with less homophobic baggage.
Anyway, I think that it is a beautiful thing to find out, as a young man, that you can safely express things that might ordinarily make you uncomfortable.
Hurrah for LPSG and for anyone here with the courage and good sense to explore what they feel!
That said, I'll take a turn at being transparent......
Black10, it makes perfect sense that you enjoy your dick. Hell, judging from your pics it appears that you have a beautiful body, to include your dick. It would be odd if you didn't know that, compared to alot of other bodies, you are hot stuff. Trust me, everyone else in the locker room notices too. That is normal. Human beings are social; we are prone to be comparative in our assessments. We take note of remarkably beautiful, fat, short, tall, ugly, or buff people. Dicks are even more notable because they are sexually charged...but it isn't something to feel odd about.
It just is.
Images are powerful. They can be sexually charged, and they can take us to other places.
The first time that I saw Dee's picture it reminded me of the first man that I ever kissed. He was an amazing, bright, sensitive and very sexual 19 year old African-American I met in Europe. I was terrified, but the most amazing 4 days of real passion that I had ever experienced followed. Paris was forever changed in my mind's eye. It is difficult to think of that time without a chubby.
So, I , for one, am happy that the world has beauty and romance. B10, among those things are your body and your VERY nice dick....and the trips I occasional take to Paris when Dee writes something poignant.
Fuck...I am done.
Be gentle with me guys.........
Peace

 

[jdoe86]

I have had men & women tell me I have a beautiful cock. The funny thing is that some of those men are straight. And I had a lezzie tell me that too. So everyone can enjoy a beautiful body(or cock); it doesn't matter if you are gay,staight, or bi. But being bi means that I can be sexually attracted to males and not be ashamed.

 

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Rusty2kma: I'm a bi-sexual.I can't say its better being bi-sexual anymore than I can say being straight or gay is.I think its up to the individual on what they think.Different strokes for different folks I always say.

But in my opinion a bi-sexaul male is better in bed than a straight man.......If I had a choice ,I would choose sex with a bi-sexaul man over a straight man any day of the week.But then again thats just my personal prefence.