Bisexuality Confession

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For a long time I conflicted with myself and my sexuality, growing up I was straight, and as soon as I got older, I lost who I was because I was different. And the world didn't mind telling me I was. I never felt I was different, I always felt "normal." But, we are all different. And What I have finally concluded about myself, and a principal of the world is that we are all bisexual to a degree. Weather we accept it now or later. The same way we can love the sex we are mostly attracted to, is the same way qualities in a person of the same sex can attract us. That's why we have friends, and best friends and so on. To deny is just to lie, because that's what I did for many years now I have allowed myself to not be defined by anything except how I feel in the moment. One minute I may have sex with a guy and the next a girl. Sex is sex, nothing more nothing less, when we allow ourselves to live our desires we won't feel so confined to have to believe this or that and truly will be free like we were meant to be.
 
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well daid, bigbc. you have expressed my views exactly. Its interesting because the theory that we are all bisexual was promoted by Sigmund Freud but I think it is getting more followers nowadays
 

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That's amazing, Petrolhead I never read into Freuds studies in relation to sexuality I mostly focused on his Self-actualization studies, but wow. Makes me want to dive more into his work. Its also like Plato in the symposium, from what a friend told me it mentions similar undertones. I just think we spend so much time labeling, that we don't ever removed all the labels we place on ourselves. I just like people, guess that just makes me peoplesexual lol.
 

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It's called pansexual bigbc but I can not agree with you I have best friends that are men and women but that does not mean I'm sexually attracted to men I'm pretty sure many gay guys have close female friends that they may be very cloe with but have no sexual feelings towards. You can't judge everyone off of your own experiences. Freud said may things in his day most of which are not thought of as credible it is studied but does not mean it is believed he also said that we all want, as males, to get rig of our fatheres and have sex with our mothers and the inverse for women wichita I doubt any of us want to do. Lables are not anything to hold something in place they are there to describe what is already present like what you described as you attraction to people regardless of any type of gender, man woman or anything inbetween is called pansexual.
 

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And don't you think you are doing the same thing by your generalization? I said to a degree if you look at my wording Hatt, I didn't say that you are completely bisexual. I noticed that men and women alike have interesting tendencies. What do you base your thesis on? I would love to know exactly what made you say your 100 percent straight. I bet if you had no Idea what straight or gay was, with no grey area in between you wouldn't label yourself as this are that. We are created as blank slates...neutral in everything. therefore unbiased in everything. From what I have learned from analyzing not just myself but those around me, if you understand statistics you can generate a probability, I find the human condition to be quiet funny, especially how people build their perceptions. Our society builds on labels, on defining this or that being accepted as a part of the whole. What I am merely saying is being bisexual is a possibility more than saying your gay or straight. There is no possibility in being too far "right" straight and too far left "gay" without having something to base it on. I'm saying that there is a grey area that isn't spoken. It's the same grey area that is missing when people talk race, politics, and all that other stuff. If you were completely straight. And hear me out. You wouldn't find any qualities in your male friends that make you friends with them...because when you constitute friendship, what do you base it on, the same exact things you base it on when you look for a spouse. What attracts friends, It's not a sexual explanation as much as it is psychological. If you were completely straight than you would, and correct me if I am wrong, hang out with all women with the potential of sexual encounters.
 

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And don't you think you are doing the same thing by your generalization? I said to a degree if you look at my wording Hatt, I didn't say that you are completely bisexual. I noticed that men and women alike have interesting tendencies. What do you base your thesis on? I would love to know exactly what made you say your 100 percent straight. I bet if you had no Idea what straight or gay was, with no grey area in between you wouldn't label yourself as this are that. We are created as blank slates...neutral in everything. therefore unbiased in everything. From what I have learned from analyzing not just myself but those around me, if you understand statistics you can generate a probability, I find the human condition to be quiet funny, especially how people build their perceptions. Our society builds on labels, on defining this or that being accepted as a part of the whole. What I am merely saying is being bisexual is a possibility more than saying your gay or straight. There is no possibility in being too far "right" straight and too far left "gay" without having something to base it on. I'm saying that there is a grey area that isn't spoken. It's the same grey area that is missing when people talk race, politics, and all that other stuff. If you were completely straight. And hear me out. You wouldn't find any qualities in your male friends that make you friends with them...because when you constitute friendship, what do you base it on, the same exact things you base it on when you look for a spouse. What attracts friends, It's not a sexual explanation as much as it is psychological. If you were completely straight than you would, and correct me if I am wrong, hang out with all women with the potential of sexual encounters.

100% straight men = mainly transsexual lesbians :biggrin1::eek:
 

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I never said there wasn't a grey area I believe there is but you are saying that there are no completely straight people and I don't believe that is true. And the qualities I look for in a friend are nothing like the the qualities I look for in a woman. I say I'm straight because I have no physical attraction to men at all I have no desire be with one. And for friends it is usually based off of being similar or like the same things. But is not equal to attraction. With women physical attraction plays a big role in why I like her given its not every thing but it is alot. Saying someone is bi because they have male friends is like saying someone is insestual just because they love their family

I understand you saying that someone isn't completely bi but to say that they were bi in the slightest suggest that that person has some, how ever small, sexual attraction to men and I don't which is why I dont agree with what you said. Not saying people like that don't exist but I would not say they are the majority
 

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Hatt I will agree to disagree. But what you base your definition of Bisexuality of seems to be skewed within your definition of being physically attracted or desiring to be with a man. None of that is the context for bisexuality, once again it's a label. But, yeah I don't want to continue to have this back and forth I will just agree to disagree simply because, it really isn't a big issue. I will still hold my own belief, based on my own definition that humans are to some degree bisexual.
 
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thats what i said in the first place i know you believe it and i disagree not trying to change your mind. but being bi is not just a label it is something that describes an persons behavior and me personally i will never do anything thing with a man nor am i attracted to men sexually or emotionally b/c i am straight despite you believing that it doesn't exist because i know i do. friends are not emotional attachment or physical ones they are bonds over similar activities and interests. and by having male friends in no way makes any straight guy bi. by that logic gay gay who have mainly female friends arnt full gay or they are bi and i know that a lot of them would say that they are 100% gay.

now im not speaking for gay people i am only repeating something i saw many gay men write when asked a question in ask a gay guy section. you as a bisexual guy cannot speak for straight men because you are not straight.

People seem to think labels hold negative meaning but all they do is describe what is already there like labeling on food or sizes on shoes.
 

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well daid, bigbc. you have expressed my views exactly. Its interesting because the theory that we are all bisexual was promoted by Sigmund Freud but I think it is getting more followers nowadays

Yup, good old Freud. Yeah, a word of advice. You guys might not want to follow his beliefs too closely. Just sayin' :wink:
 

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@ Hatt lol Nothing's that serious especially your response to a "Bisexuality confession," it's just that my brotha... a confession. Like I said I have my beliefs and you yours. Ignorance is not knowing, doesn't define a state of intellectual level. I once too did not know, my journey was a series of unfortunate events to attain an education in school. I would walk 30 miles just to be in class. Straight as can be until life challenged my beliefs. What I say is based on experience not thought. But, like I said you are what you are. I can't tell you nothing because you are who you are. I can only state my belief and it is what I state and nothing can change my belief. Not even disapproval or another's opinion. Thank you for responding, I appreciate hearing all voices.
 

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well daid, bigbc. you have expressed my views exactly. Its interesting because the theory that we are all bisexual was promoted by Sigmund Freud but I think it is getting more followers nowadays

Dont forget that Freud said a lot of crazy shit. For example, he believed that paranoia came from homosexuality and incestuous fantasies. He believed that women have issues because they don't have a penis. He believed that children have sexual fantasies, and about their mother. He believed that we go through stages of fixation as we grow up, and lots of other stuff. Oh yea, he also heavily abused cocaine.

Freud had some interesting ideas and paved the way for things, but I don't think you should necessarily quote him as gospel.

Also, I disagree about OP saying we are all bisexual. Things are obviously more complex than 3 simple labels can provide, but not everybody is bisexual and not everybody is attracted to everybody.
 
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Listen, I'm usually the first person to dump on Freudian mumbo jumbo, but before he started going back on his own theories with all that crazy Oedipal psychosexual business, he did help found the ideas of subconscious psychological processes, stages of psychological development, and psychological trauma. These are pretty major concepts. And even Darwin didn't get evolution 100% accurately.

So well you may not agree with the idea that humans aren't born hetero or homosexual, don't dump on it because Freud. The limited empirical research out there on human sexuality that attempts to go beyond participants self-reporting sexual orientations is astonishingly complex stuff. We, frankly, know know much less than we think we do, and the more research comes in, the more wildly incapable of describing human sexuality modern English vocabulary becomes.
 

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I have a theory, that sometimes we are attracted to ourselves, which means that when you recignize yourself in another person you may be attracted to him. Havent you ever noticed that gay couples alot of times look exactly alike. I think theres something to it.
 
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I have a theory, that sometimes we are attracted to ourselves, which means that when you recignize yourself in another person you may be attracted to him. Havent you ever noticed that gay couples alot of times look exactly alike. I think theres something to it.

Absolutely!

A lot of heterosexual man get jealously crushes on porn studs, etc, even if many refuse to admit it. My old man used to say that in the 70's, men were dying to John Holmes' penis.
 

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I have a theory, that sometimes we are attracted to ourselves, which means that when you recignize yourself in another person you may be attracted to him. Havent you ever noticed that gay couples alot of times look exactly alike. I think theres something to it.


I like your concept brotha, very interesting. I have never thought about it as an attraction within myself, but more so the attraction of the soul. I think of the human soul as a blank canvas, and whatever we perceive as truth is what we allow ourselves to think is true and ultimately become. Having a mindset to say nothing is absolute grants me the ability to say that there may be a percentage that someone may not be fully one thing or another thus some may act upon it or some may have a desire not to act upon it or be it but it's still a possibility. I think until faith allows us to meet a new situation what we may have once thought as truth appears to be something that isn't...which happens quite often. At the end of the day, I feel if labels were completely removed from our society, the world would then see how similar everyone is in normal human functions, but truly different in our ability to create.
 

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you said exactly what i said i im what i am and what i am is straight i know this. i am 24 years old i may not be as old as you guys but i think by this age a person knows whether or not they are bi gay straight. saying that people need to confess isnt an opinion it forcing your beliefs on them. you act as if ive never met a gay person if i was attracted to men i would know. you may have found out late in life that you are bi but that is you and everyone is not like you so you cannot apply the same rules.
@ Hatt lol Nothing's that serious especially your response to a "Bisexuality confession," it's just that my brotha... a confession. Like I said I have my beliefs and you yours. Ignorance is not knowing, doesn't define a state of intellectual level. I once too did not know, my journey was a series of unfortunate events to attain an education in school. I would walk 30 miles just to be in class. Straight as can be until life challenged my beliefs. What I say is based on experience not thought. But, like I said you are what you are. I can't tell you nothing because you are who you are. I can only state my belief and it is what I state and nothing can change my belief. Not even disapproval or another's opinion. Thank you for responding, I appreciate hearing all voices.