I agree with what you wrote about sexuality and influences and orientation.
Okay.
Do you identify as being sexual, bisexual, or gay?
None of them. If someone
else needs to place me neatly into a pigeonhole to accomodate their limitied ability at the diverse nature of humankind I'd reluctantly write "homosexual". But I'm really none of the above.
Do politics have anything to do with it?
Not one blessed thing. How would politics influence one's sexual orientation? I'm curious.
I'm not sure why you think that two men having a MFM 3 way with no homosexual sex or contact is somehow "rape" or gross?
A ménage à trois is just that; three people. All should involve themselves if I'm to participate. Otherwise I'd want no part and like anyone else I tend to look at that sort of an arrangement as a very subjective thing if I'm one of the players.
As stated in my previous I (
I) perceive it as domination and subjugation more than I do sex. From pornography I've seen where this has been the situation the woman invariably does not appear to be enjoying it and invariably get jizzed on her face by both mean. There's a demeaning piece in it to me. The men call her "slut" and she looks up at one man as she gives him head with a smile aching for approval (and while he often tries to choke her with his thrust) while the other dude rams his dong up her asshole. That's why I said gross.
And don't get me started on "double dipping".
What's in that for her? Nada.
If (as I perceive it) the woman is not enjoying it (in spite of her scripted ooooooooos and ahhhhhhhhhhs mostly sounding like pain) I say it's only another example of heterosexual male dominance and has little to do with sex. If a guy gets his rocks off imposing himself sexually on a woman I don't think of it as pleasurable for the woman. The way I (again IMO here) perceive sex it's a completely mutually beneficial experience.
Would you say the same about a FMF 3 way where two women have sex with a man but no homosexual sex or contact goes on?
Never seen one. And I submit should they exist they're rare.
I'm sure there are men and women here who fantasize about the above happening and they do not see it as rape or gross.
Are you sure? Find me one and we'll talk.
I see nothing wrong with someone not wanting to do something sexually that they are not into like having gay/bisexual sex if they are not bisexual.
Okay. But what's that got to do with anything I wrote? I can tell you from personal hands-on experience I've never once had sex when I haven't wanted to. I simply won't rise to the occasion. I like that my dick has that reaction. No one's forcing anyone to do anything here. That's my point in writing you this lengthy response. I think anything
forced is not sex. Again though - my opinion.
I'm all for people doing what they want sexually with other consenting adults as long as it's safe, sane, and consensual. This includes consensual "rape" scenes too.
Now we're getting into iffy territory.
In my view the word consensual is key here. Consensual and rape are mutually exclusive in my opinion... as is the notion of the "good kind of threeway MFF" and the so-called "bad kind of threeway" according to heterosexual men the MMF variety where the guys have interaction.
It's very telling to me that many hetero men have said "oh women are more prone to bisexuality where men aren't".
They didn't invent the term "circle jerk" because there were women on site....
As much as I realize that society dictates that hetero men
say that lest something think them homosexual - it's utter unadulterated bullshit in my view.
I know that people do have opinions of biphobia but they're just ignorant and hypocritical and need to get out more.
never heard of it
** aside: lol @ "by golly!" :biggrin1:
