Black guys who ONLY date white guys...

[deleted15805821]

This argument is ridiculous. Nobody has the right to call me racist because of my personal preferences. If I don't wish to date white men, black men, or Asian men, this does not mean that I consider them to be inferior to me in any way, it means that I am not sexually & romantically attracted to them.

Is a white woman who will only date black men racist? What about a Japanese guy who's only interested in a r/ship with another Japanese guy? Or an African American guy who's only interested in dating other black dudes, is he a racist too?

The argument just doesn't hold water. We need to stop examining everything that happens in the world through a lens of racism, or some other oppression. That's not how relationship chemistry works. There's no explanation as to why we find certain people more attractive than others, & attempting to explain it away as being somehow down to "racism" is simply naive.

Sometimes there is a tendency to jump to the end stage racism but there is a spectrum that say starts with a bias and ends maybe in racism/hate/violence/murder. And everyone has biases whether they are conscious of it or not. All well documented and studied.

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[Peter1999]

This argument is ridiculous. Nobody has the right to call me racist because of my personal preferences. If I don't wish to date white men, black men, or Asian men, this does not mean that I consider them to be inferior to me in any way, it means that I am not sexually & romantically attracted to them.

Is a white woman who will only date black men racist? What about a Japanese guy who's only interested in a r/ship with another Japanese guy? Or an African American guy who's only interested in dating other black dudes, is he a racist too?

The argument just doesn't hold water. We need to stop examining everything that happens in the world through a lens of racism, or some other oppression. That's not how relationship chemistry works. There's no explanation as to why we find certain people more attractive than others, & attempting to explain it away as being somehow down to "racism" is simply naive.

It 100% is racism since you're using race and/or skin color to completely deny entire groups of people.

You aren't saying you dislike a certain person, you're saying you dislike an entire group of people (even ones you've never met) simply because they are a certain group.

 

[Peter1999]

This argument is ridiculous. Nobody has the right to call me racist because of my personal preferences. If I don't wish to date white men, black men, or Asian men, this does not mean that I consider them to be inferior to me in any way, it means that I am not sexually & romantically attracted to them.

Is a white woman who will only date black men racist? What about a Japanese guy who's only interested in a r/ship with another Japanese guy? Or an African American guy who's only interested in dating other black dudes, is he a racist too?

The argument just doesn't hold water. We need to stop examining everything that happens in the world through a lens of racism, or some other oppression. That's not how relationship chemistry works. There's no explanation as to why we find certain people more attractive than others, & attempting to explain it away as being somehow down to "racism" is simply naive.

I can prove to you that it's rooted in racism inside you.

Tell me which group of people you aren't attracted to you.

 

[Andrej_u]

Is a white woman who will only date black men racist?

I don’t know… has she swiped the entire world population on Tinder, and swiped no on 3 billion men in the world who are not black, not finding a single one of those attractive? Or has she only seen a small percentage of the world’s non-black men and she’s generalising?
And does she only date black men because “black men are [insert any adjective of her choice] while Asian men are not [adjective]”? Because you know… thinking that the colour of your skin determines a personality trait is the very definition of racism.

The topic is nuanced, we all have preferences but I think we should finally strive to be open minded at the idea of possibly liking someone who is not normally our type. Saying “I only like/date black/white/whatever people” is excluding an entire population of people without giving them a chance. Are you free to do that? Yes. Are you immune from criticism? No.

 

[ahaahahahaa]

^See, this is the mentality of these gays saying they aren't into certain races. They hide their racism behind veils of preferences.

You can be openly racist as much as you want as long as you claim that it's your preference. Cowards.

If someone refuses to sleep with men of color they're racist now ? So I must fuck everyone in order to not be called a racist ? Your mentality seems a bit off.

 

[ahaahahahaa]

It 100% is racism since you're using race and/or skin color to completely deny entire groups of people.

You aren't saying you dislike a certain person, you're saying you dislike an entire group of people (even ones you've never met) simply because they are a certain group.

You're weaponizing racism in order to coerce people into fucking someone they dont want to. Think about what you're doing.

 

[deleted15805821]

You're weaponizing racism in order to coerce people into fucking someone they dont want to. Think about what you're doing.

Let's unpack this. And why don't they want to? Let's do the Five Whys.

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[deleted21466931]

I can prove to you that it's rooted in racism inside you.

Tell me which group of people you aren't attracted to you.

C'mon man, this isn't getting us anywhere. I deliberately haven't disclosed my personal relationship history because it's not salient to the point at hand.

I certainly don't want to enter into a conversation about dubious notions such as "unconscious bias".

I'm sorry that guys on the app reject you because of your race, and can't see what an attractive lad you are. If you're using the same photo that you use here, those guys are obviously idiots. If I were 30 years younger & looking for a BF, you'd be right in the centre of my target zone, 100%.

There are many rejections and disappointments in life. Being rejected by men we find attractive happens, for all sorts of reasons. Just move on, and find a man who appreciates you for being who and what you are.

That's all I have to say on the matter, I'm going to unwatch this thread now.

 

[Peter1999]

If someone refuses to sleep with men of color they're racist now ? So I must fuck everyone in order to not be called a racist ? Your mentality seems a bit off.

Who said that?! You're trying to make a point by jumping to the extremes that absolutely nobody said.
Maybe just try not to judge an entire group of people first? Is that really so extreme?

 

[Peter1999]

C'mon man, this isn't getting us anywhere. I deliberately haven't disclosed my personal relationship history because it's not salient to the point at hand.

I certainly don't want to enter into a conversation about dubious notions such as "unconscious bias".

I'm sorry that guys on the app reject you because of your race, and can't see what an attractive lad you are. If you're using the same photo that you use here, those guys are obviously idiots. If I were 30 years younger & looking for a BF, you'd be right in the centre of my target zone, 100%.

There are many rejections and disappointments in life. Being rejected by men we find attractive happens, for all sorts of reasons. Just move on, and find a man who appreciates you for being who and what you are.

That's all I have to say on the matter, I'm going to unwatch this thread now.

I'm sorry, but who rejected me because of my skin color?! Lol why do y'all jump to presumptions or extremes out of thin air? So because I'm speaking of this, I'm automatically presumed to be a victim???

We're talking about a general topic. It's all generalities. Not everything pertains to us directly. Haven't you ever put yourself in someone else's shoes?

Yeah, I knew that question I stated would make you feel uncomfortable. That's the point. The second question I was going to ask would peel everything back. If you want to leave the conversation when you're asked to explain yourself, be my guest. Thank you for the compliment and a have a good one.

 

[deleted21466931]

I'm sorry, but who rejected me because of my skin color?! Lol why do y'all jump to presumptions or extremes out of thin air?

We're talking about a general topic. It's all generalities. Not everything pertains to us directly. Haven't you ever put yourself in someone else's shoes?

Yeah, I knew that question I stated would make you feel uncomfortable. That's the point. The second question I was going to ask would peel everything back. If you want to leave the conversation when you're asked to explain yourself, be my guest. Thank you for the compliment and a have a good one.

I don't feel like I have to explain myself. I have no intention of apologizing for my opinions, which, if you were to venture outside the hyper-Woke Zoomer bubble in which you clearly live, you might find are a lot more mainstream that you think.

Goodbye, and good luck.

 

[Peter1999]

I don't feel like I have to explain myself. I have no intention of apologizing for my opinions, which, if you were to venture outside the hyper-Woke Zoomer bubble in which you clearly live, you might find are a lot more mainstream that you think.

Goodbye, and good luck.

Okay Boomer. Have a good one.

 

[Peter1999]

I don’t know… has she swiped the entire world population on Tinder, and swiped no on 3 billion men in the world who are not black, not finding a single one of those attractive? Or has she only seen a small percentage of the world’s non-black men and she’s generalising?
And does she only date black men because “black men are [insert any adjective of her choice] while Asian men are not [adjective]”? Because you know… thinking that the colour of your skin determines a personality trait is the very definition of racism.

The topic is nuanced, we all have preferences but I think we should finally strive to be open minded at the idea of possibly liking someone who is not normally our type. Saying “I only like/date black/white/whatever people” is excluding an entire population of people without giving them a chance. Are you free to do that? Yes. Are you immune from criticism? No.

This is such a sane take and it speaks volumes that they refuse to even attempt this.

 

[Peter1999]

You're weaponizing racism in order to coerce people into fucking someone they dont want to. Think about what you're doing.

What group of people do you find attractive and why? Note: Don't tell "bEcAusE It'S mY prEfErenCe." Be specific.

 

[deleted21466931]

Okay Boomer. Have a good one.

Gen X, actually.

 

[ahaahahahaa]

Let's unpack this. And why don't they want to? Let's do the Five Whys.

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Their reason is irrelevant, their body their choice.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

I like everyone, I also like having the right to turn someone down for whatever reason without being labeled racist.
We should focus on someone being fired for their race or being chased by the police because of their skin color and stay out of people's bedrooms.
Conservatives are the ones who love dictating what type and with whom you're allowed to have sex. It sucks to see so many ''leftists'' adopting right wing ideas.

You know, the point I think we are all trying to make here is not that we want you to give unfettered access to your body to every non-white person in this world (I assume you are white). The point is that we need to recognize racist attitudes within each and every one of us.

The issue with your statement is that you don't say, I tend to generally prefer to date ppl of x or y race or culture. The issue is you are saying you can base your dating preferences on race and exclude an entire group of ppl based on their race.

Like, I don't get why it is ok to put "dating preference: white only" or the equivalent on a dating profile. Just let ppl message you and reject them for who they are or what they look like.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

I don't feel like I have to explain myself. I have no intention of apologizing for my opinions, which, if you were to venture outside the hyper-Woke Zoomer bubble in which you clearly live, you might find are a lot more mainstream that you think.

Goodbye, and good luck.

Wow. The man asked you a very relevant and fair question. Just answer it. Which groups of ppl you consider unattractive? It seems you belive race can be used to exclude an entire group. So, which group is it for you?

And which groups are you attracted to?

I think the best way to address this issue is to also ask you what specifically about those groups you find unattractive. Also, what do you find attractive about whatever group you are attracted to?

You said this is about personal preference. So what are your personal preferences?

 

[Hunterx89]

I like white guys...

 

[Peter1999]

Wow. The man asked you a very relevant and fair question. Just answer it. Which groups of ppl you consider unattractive? It seems you belive race can be used to exclude an entire group. So, which group is it for you?

And which groups are you attracted to?

I think the best way to address this issue is to also ask you what specifically about those groups you find unattractive. Also, what do you find attractive about whatever group you are attracted to?

You said this is about personal preference. So what are your personal preferences?

They're both afraid to answer the question if you didn't notice lol.

Both of them ignored what I'm asking, because they know damn well what their answers will lead them to. I've had this debate with friends before and I prove my point with those questions. It's always just a "preference" until you make them explain the reasoning. They know exactly why they refuse to answer truthfully. Not my first rodeo lol.