Black lives matter : in their own words(really)

[Hyperspermia327]

It’s funny seeing alll the white trash and confederates show themselves on this thread.

 

[keenobserver]

It’s funny seeing alll the white trash and confederates show themselves on this thread.

We're also seeing a guy who is off his meds.

 

[deleted15807]

We're also seeing a guy who is off his meds.

You took the words out of my mouth.

 

[Uncutsouthernboy]

No, the prejudiced, uncaring, self righteous bigots are generally the one with their fingers in their ears, pretending reality doesn't exist. Imagine leftists calling others self-righteous. The hypocrisy has now become universally transcendent.

It's not what you say it's how you say it. When that shit comes out of someone peddling nonsense like you Yankees sounds like a watered down "n" word.

You also talk a lot of shit but offer no proof other than your sincere belief you know so much about history.

Post some links from newspapers, historical periodicals or archives and you may be able to support your propaganda.

I am glad you at least acknowledge the Grand Dragon and his role

I can give the references of everything I said. And Yankee is not a pejorative term. It just denotes people of a certain area of the US. If it is offensive, then maybe the New York Yankees need to change their name.

 

[slivovic]

It’s funny seeing alll the white trash and confederates show themselves on this thread.

Racist term

We're also seeing a guy who is off his meds.

So you agree with the use of racist terms do you?

 

[slivovic]

Roomper Room style reply- I expected that

Some people, who will remain nameless, can never reply to the substance, merely they will try to take certain things (out of context) and thereby 'win' the argument. Trouble is, such a debating tactic is completely transparent, and convinces nobody except those already *convinced*

 

[Shrume]

In the Atlanta Wendy’s shooting video, where were the muzzle blasts when the gun was fired? When you shoot a handgun, a big blast of fire comes out of the muzzle. That’s a dead giveaway.

 

[Shrume]

Why did police officers pick up George Floyd from the street? Shouldn’t it have been EMTs? And it may just be me, but it appears that he has a minor hair line before he was laying in the street, and in the video of him in the street, he is completely bald. Hmmm.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Why did police officers pick up George Floyd from the street? Shouldn’t it have been EMTs? And it may just be me, but it appears that he has a minor hair line before he was laying in the street, and in the video of him in the street, he is completely bald. Hmmm.

You need help

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Some people, who will remain nameless, can never reply to the substance, merely they will try to take certain things (out of context) and thereby 'win' the argument. Trouble is, such a debating tactic is completely transparent, and convinces nobody except those already *convinced*

People stop replying when they realize they can't have a discussion with a brick wall.

 

[Call_Me_Dave]

You need help

Literally NOTHING is real. Nothing has ever happened. Ever.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Literally NOTHING is real. Nothing has ever happened. Ever.

We're in the fuckin Matrix or some shit.

 

[slivovic]

People stop replying when they realize they can't have a discussion with a brick wall.

Look, I could easily accuse you of projection on that score. Certainly there is no evidence of me not taking on board useful points of my interlocutors. Not here or in real life. Really, some people ought to look at themselves. Do you (plural) really feel that all of the reasonableness is on your side, and the unreasonableness on the side of your opponents? Look at the way modern day 'progressives' handle arguments, and their general intolerance and their need to exclude dissenting voices. Surely you can see this? If not, you live in an echo chamber bubble. I can see this clearly and sharply as I've drifted from the progressive camp. The 'you go girl' praise immediately strays into outright hostility as soon as you stray from the various buzzwords and talking points. I'm not saying the far or even median right is much better, it is just that the leftist control is much more normalized and acceptable across various social and other media.

And I don't expect anyone to really address this here, not in any way substantively, because the brick wall is far too rigid.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Look, I could easily accuse you of projection on that score. Certainly there is no evidence of me not taking on board useful points of my interlocutors. Not here or in real life. Really, some people ought to look at themselves. Do you (plural) really feel that all of the reasonableness is on your side, and the unreasonableness on the side of your opponents? Look at the way modern day 'progressives' handle arguments, and their general intolerance and their need to exclude dissenting voices. Surely you can see this? If not, you live in an echo chamber bubble. I can see this clearly and sharply as I've drifted from the progressive camp. The 'you go girl' praise immediately strays into outright hostility as soon as you stray from the various buzzwords and talking points. I'm not saying the far or even median right is much better, it is just that the leftist control is much more normalized and acceptable across various social and other media.

And I don't expect anyone to really address this here, not in any way substantively, because the brick wall is far too rigid.

You make me laugh. Stay safe.

 

[slivovic]

You make me laugh. Stay safe.

Predictably contentless and pointless reply, I guess the cognitive dissonance would be too great to actually engage intellectually.
Stay safe, from covid, and also from ideas that challenge your worldview.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1274884312484044801

 

[A_Wayward_Waffle]

No, the prejudiced, uncaring, self righteous bigots are generally the one with their fingers in their ears, pretending reality doesn't exist. Imagine leftists calling others self-righteous. The hypocrisy has now become universally transcendent.

what does politics have to do with this? why are you bringing that up. I'm talking and refering to facts. Statistically black folks in the US do not enjoy the safety and protection that white folks do.

why should members of society who aren't being given the same set of rules as everyone else play by our rules? They have been trying to get change for 100 years. but nobody has been listening. now we are talking about it right? the message is out there. that speaks for itself.

secondly: THE RIOTS ARE NOT A PART OF THE PROTESTS! THE BLM MOVEMENT HAS PUBLICLY CONDONED THE RIOTS AND BURNING AND LOOTING (which statistically have been more younger white folks...). Since you brought up politics, i would like to point out that the BLM movement has condoned the the actions of people who appear to be related to them. something trump has refused to do with white supremacists, neo-nazis and the kkk (who have openly supported them).

you act like you have the moral high ground here. except you have repeatedly avoided actually talking about the BLM movements peaceful protests (a global movement btw) and focused on unrelated individuals taking advantage of the situation for 3 (ish) days in 9 cities in the US alone.

if you want to debate something, actually talk about it. don't bring up politics, or unrelated events. get off of you high horse and learn how to converse like a actually informed person. critical thinking isn't that hard.

 

[A_Wayward_Waffle]

What was the political message behind the death of Daniel Shaver? Looting walmarts has no political message, except the perpetrators are not interested in improving things. Just acting in a lawless, destructive way will not recreate the social contract. It will lead to ever decreasing circles of unrest and violence.

Oooh thanks for bringing up a police shooting that ended up with the cop getting charged without having to have massive protests just to get justice. sure he was found not guilty by a jury. but that means it went to court. which most shootings involving the black community don.t even get that. officers aren't even charged.

like i said there is not fucking political message behind any fucking murders perpetrated by the police. the fact is that the police have ridiculous amounts of immunity in their use of force. and that force is used disproportionally on the black community.

 

[A_Wayward_Waffle]

Predictably contentless and pointless reply, I guess the cognitive dissonance would be too great to actually engage intellectually.
Stay safe, from covid, and also from ideas that challenge your worldview.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1274884312484044801

your comment is exactly the same "contentless and pointless reply.

How old are you btw? because if you are old enough to be on here, you should be old enough to actually have a civil discourse without having to result to insults. Again, it really isnt that hard to be polite. you might find that people are more receptive when you aren't taking every chance to throw a jab. and

 

[A_Wayward_Waffle]

I can't speak across the board, but I know that police have shot unarmed white people. It isn't an uncommon occurrence at all if you look at the statistics. Google Daniel Shaver. The fact is, the media tend to spin the facts in a way that suits their agenda, and their need to max controversy. Even if it can be proved that racism underpins the majority of police shootings against blacks, what is the solution? Surely invading cities and engaging in otherwise lawless ways, including through violence, is only a further escalation. Is the fact that police shootings almost invariably involve males a sign of misandry, incidentally? If we follow the 'logic' to its logical conclusion we would have to conclude so. At any rate, dialogue and democracy is a better solution than lawlessness and anarchy mixed with revolution. They always are.

first of all let me say that i appreciate the lack of muck flinging here, thank you.

I know white people are killed by the police, I've personally seen two fatal police shootings. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

There is a difference between correlation and causation, i see your point there. But that argument doesn't hold up under scrutiny. There is a disproportionate number of killings in the black community than the white community. black men are 12 times more likely to be shot than a white man. but the killings aren't necessarily the whole problem. the fact that there are killings is a problem yes. white or black, its bad. i think we both agree on that.

The treatment people of color receive from the police and judicial system is very very different than what white people receive for the same crime. blacks are much much more likely to go to jail for possession of weed, despite whites and blacks using it at the same rate. and that's just one other example. there is so much more. the fact that the black community doesn't feel safe, and have to give their children "the tall" is indicative of a problem.

if you havent already seen it, watch John Oliver's Last Week Tonight policing episodes (there are several). he presents a lot of very good points with a lot of facts to back them up. (and its not just a race thing) the police are way to militant, that is a part of the message of BLM. Things need to change.

 

[A_Wayward_Waffle]

So, you care nothing of History nor the truth. Sorry, that Ignorance is what has caused so many problems in our society.

Yankee IS the term most common for people in the Northern States. The definition is: 1. An American 2. Some one from the New England and non-Southern States. You being from Texas should know that. I have been to Texas many times and I heard the term quite often.

Technically, Robert E.Lee did not own any Slaves. He did inherit some but immediately freed them several years before the War.

Nathan Bedford Forrest was an awful man. They ignore that he did a complete turn about in his thinking. He resigned the KKK.
After the lynch mob murder of four blacks who had been arrested for defending themselves in a brawl at a barbecue, Forrest wrote to Tennessee Governor John C. Brown in August 1874 and "volunteered to help 'exterminate' those men responsible for the continued violence against the blacks", offering "to exterminate the white marauders who disgrace their race by this cowardly murder of Negroes".[122]

On July 5, 1875, Forrest gave a speech before the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association, a post-war organization of black Southerners advocating to improve the economic condition of blacks and to gain equal rights for all citizens. At this, his last public appearance, he made what The New York Times described as a "friendly speech"[170][171] during which, when offered a bouquet of flowers by a young black woman, he accepted them,[172] thanked her and kissed her on the cheek. Forrest spoke in encouragement of black advancement and of endeavoring to be a proponent for espousing peace and harmony between black and white Americans.[173]
He was making amends for his past actions and life. Something to be honored for. BTW, the speech he made to the Pole-Bearers Association is online for your perusal.

As for Gen. Grant. He even bought


What does the US Constitution say about the right to secede?
The Declaration of Independence explicitly says that the right to secede is a fundamental, natural human right. " When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another , and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them.

the declaration of independence isn't the legal document of this country. furthermore I believe the supreme court during that time already made a ruling on the legality of the matter. and it doesnt say anything about succession. it talks about overthrowing tyrannical and unjust government who seek to oppress their citizens.... which freeing slaves isn't unjust or tyrannical...