Hapi Papi: True, it doesn't matter what race, there are many variations within all the races. However, I only hear there are 5-6" black guys out there but I guess they don't admit it. And I also guess the women must be blind or have no nerves to feel anything. I am sorry. You all can say it over and over again it's not true, but the evidence is NOT there, only statistics and those can be way off. Again, I've met men AND women who say average for black guys is 8" and that's all they've seen and known. How can this NOT be true? Everyone can't be lying. Everyone can't be bad at guestimating. Everyone can't be inept at using a ruler. While I am not saying blacks are going to be 10"+ each, there are sure more than enough of those above 7" to make people unfortunate enough to be born with less face ridicule and rejection. They have to prove themselves worthy and good at sex if given a chance at all. Well that's how the two of us feel.... I've given up. It is not worth the risk. I am still proud to be a virgin and if I ever find a woman who likes me enough to progress that far to get married and get involved, I pity her, no matter how big my heart is, no matter what personality I have, no matter what anything else is positive about me. It is still a bonus to be big as I have read many times here and heard many times elsewhere. And I am Hapi Lite, without the bonus. I am still consumed and it will never change. Most blacks are large, not huge.