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What are you trying to point out? The video she linked was made 7 days ago. At that time there were no actions being taken against Dr. Williams. Now, as of only two days ago, there are stories that show us that he's been put on leave. It still holds that he wasn't fired, and being put on leave isn't necessarily a disciplinary action, it can just be a precautionary move. Really all that can be said about the video is that it's now outdated. That doesn't make it fake news. And I don't think it would be in the spirit of charity to assume that MG was aware of the update.
 

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Wait, isn't this what you do to me in almost every conversation we have in this sub-forum? So, it's cool for you to fling your shit at everyone, but when you catch a whiff of what you think is someone else's you wanna act high-n-mighty?

Bullshit.

I don't see harassment. I see someone getting called out on their nonsense. I sure like the fuck outta that
when I first saw the title of this I thought "this has to be satire"

then I remembered which country I'm living in

Exactly. There really isn't much of a mystery as to the MENTALITY and MINDSET of someone who creates a thread titled "Black Privilege"... IS there??

Title alone says it ALL, methinks.
 

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Privilege?????

Report: Black girls thought to need less protection
WASHINGTON (AP) — Adults think that black girls are less innocent, less in need of protection and nurturing, and seem older than similarly aged white girls, which could lead to stiffer punishments in school, a new report said Tuesday.



The report also said American adults think black girls know more about adult topics and about sex than white girls of the same age. And those perceptions are greater when it comes to younger black girls ages 5-9 and 10-14. The discrepancy continues to a lesser degree with girls ages 15-19.
https://apnews.com/af10f7d11f9a4239...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

Similar studies have shown this disparity applies to black boys as well. Which is why cops can roll up on a 12 year old black kid at a park, shoot him dead in two seconds, and get off scot free.

No doubt another example of that much ballyhooed "black privilege" we here speak of.
 
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Similar studies have shown this disparity applies to black boys as well. Which is why cops can roll up on a 12 year old black kid at a park, shoot him dead in two seconds, and get off scot free.

No doubt another example of that much ballyhooed "black privilege" we here speak of.

A great book "Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind" describes the "privilege".


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Note the nice "feedback loop" like this thread incredibly. The Nazi's knew America had something worth studying when they thought about their "Jewish problem".

Why the Nazis studied American race laws for inspiration
 
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Exactly. There really isn't much of a mystery as to the MENTALITY and MINDSET of someone who creates a thread titled "Black Privilege"... IS there??

Title alone says it ALL, methinks.

How about those who create the bullshit racist propaganda lie of white privilege? How's their "mindset"?

You'll cry about how white people can walk into a convenient store in some neighborhoods without being watched by the store owner while at the same store blacks are more closely scrutinized. That's not "white privilege" or racial profiling, it's, if anything, habitual profiling. When your store has been repeatedly shoplifted by young blacks any intelligent person will begin to distrust that particular demographic.

Whites aren't getting any special treatment, privilege, what they receive is a normal behavioral response because they aren't seen as a threat. And sure white people steal too but when the thieves are most always blacks of a particular age group you'd be an idiot not to eye them more closely. Blacks will point to this as white privilege when there isn't an increased level privilege at all it's just that blacks in that particular neighborhood have had their privilege reduced or revoked because they've displayed a pattern of bad behavior. An owner who may have started out with good and fair intentions in mind when they opened their store learned through past experiences they can't trust a certain demographic with the normal level trust.

Instead of demonizing white people, slapping this ridiculous racist label of privilege on them, perhaps you should blame the long line of black criminals who degraded the normal level of trust for you in that particular store?

Sure, the majority of black people aren't thieves, are decent people, but if you're a shop owner and black teenagers are consistently ripping you off you're going to distrust that demographic. Fuck, even black shop owners will display the same level of specific scrutiny. It's not white privilege or racist it's just common sense.
 
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Whites aren't getting any special treatment, privilege,

For once you're right it's others that have that honor:

Crimes against whites equals small percentage of hate crimes, FBI statistics show

priv·i·lege
ˈpriv(ə)lij/
noun

1. a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.

The "advantage" of not being in any of those other groups equals less hate crime as well as laws not being targeted at you like North Carolina's infamous monster law. Like your posts that the mods delete as being "hate". Ohh and congrats on having them deleted. You must be proud of your handiwork. Most people know how to not run afoul of the TOS here. But if it's one person that doesn't know how it's you.
 
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How about those who create the bullshit racist propaganda lie of white privilege? How's their "mindset"?

You'll cry about how white people can walk into a convenient store in some neighborhoods without being watched by the store owner while at the same store blacks are more closely scrutinized. That's not "white privilege" or racial profiling, it's, if anything, habitual profiling. When your store has been repeatedly shoplifted by young blacks any intelligent person will begin to distrust that particular demographic.

Whites aren't getting any special treatment, privilege, what they receive is a normal behavioral response because they aren't seen as a threat. And sure white people steal too but when the thieves are most always blacks of a particular age group you'd be an idiot not to eye them more closely. Blacks will point to this as white privilege when there isn't an increased level privilege at all it's just that blacks in that particular neighborhood have had their privilege reduced or revoked because they've displayed a pattern of bad behavior. An owner who may have started out with good and fair intentions in mind when they opened their store learned through past experiences they can't trust a certain demographic with the normal level trust.

Instead of demonizing white people, slapping this ridiculous racist label of privilege on them, perhaps you should blame the long line of black criminals who degraded the normal level of trust for you in that particular store?

Sure, the majority of black people aren't thieves, are decent people, but if you're a shop owner and black teenagers are consistently ripping you off you're going to distrust that demographic. Fuck, even black shop owners will display the same level of specific scrutiny. It's not white privilege or racist it's just common sense.

Step 1: Define white privilege as only a small set of trivial circumstances, such as being watched by a retail clerk.
Step 2: Make argument based on that limited scope.

When people talk about white privilege, it covers things like:
Please enlighten us about how these aren't issues of racism and how whites aren't given preferential treatment as compared to blacks.
 

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Step 1: Define white privilege as only a small set of trivial circumstances, such as being watched by a retail clerk.
Step 2: Make argument based on that limited scope.

When people talk about white privilege, it covers things like:
Please enlighten us about how these aren't issues of racism and how whites aren't given preferential treatment as compared to blacks.

Thanks for saving me the bother of having to respond to such nonsense. A shopkeeper having greater suspicion of certain individuals based upon past experiences is HARDLY a defense for the myriad of ways in which white and black people are treated with disparity.

Her argument is basically a defense of racial profiling and stop and frisk policies that target minorities in particular. I think we'd sound equally foolish if we suggested white males should be held in suspicion because serial killers are of that particular demographic.


I guess that shopkeeper rationale of hers is also SUPPOSED to explain why black people are treated with disparity by the medical profession, why black people a still being paid less for doing the same jobs as their white counterparts, why Republicans are hard at work creating voter SUPPRESSION laws targeting minorities and gerrymandering districts to dilute the minority vote, and why black people are stopped, arrested, and receive way longer sentences for possession of illegal drugs even though STATISTICS have shown whites use them at an even HIGHER rate.
 
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Thanks for saving me the bother of having to respond to such nonsense. A shopkeeper having greater suspicion of certain individuals based upon past experiences is HARDLY a defense for the myriad of ways in which white and black people are treated with disparity.

Her argument is basically a defense of racial profiling and stop and frisk policies that target minorities in particular. I think we'd sound equally foolish if we suggested white males should be held in suspicion because serial killers are of that particular demographic.


I guess that shopkeeper rationale of hers is also SUPPOSED to explain why black people are treated with disparity by the medical profession, why black people a still being paid less for doing the same jobs as their white counterparts, why Republicans are hard at work creating voter SUPPRESSION laws targeting minorities and gerrymandering districts to dilute the minority vote, and why black people are stopped, arrested, and receive way longer sentences for possession of illegal drugs even though STATISTICS have shown whites use them at an even HIGHER rate.

If you don't have a YouTube clip of it does it really exist?? ;)
 
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Thanks for saving me the bother of having to respond to such nonsense.

Oh, It's beyond nonsense. You and I both know damn well what it is.

As an example: http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2005/08...-readily-identified-by-behavior-not-race.html

"Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise."

Let's not let facts get in the way when we can just vomit up our racist preconceptions about the world at large and use that as some kind of justification for systemic racism! Who needs truly blind sociological studies when we can just blindly trust that police treat everyone fairy and thus consider arrest statistics as a true representation of propensity to commit crime by a given race.

Certainly there's no way that blacks getting arrested more often for shoplifting has nothing to do with the fact that they're scrutinized more closely by said merchants.

I took umbrage at her stupid shoplifting example because she says that's what black people are "crying about". It's trivial because at the end of the day, if I'm not shoplifting, who gives a fuck what the merchant is doing (I mostly shop on Amazon anyways), but even her trivial example is flawed as fuck because of the particular set of lenses she uses to view the world.
 
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Oh, It's beyond nonsense. You and I both know damn well what it is.

As an example: http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2005/08...-readily-identified-by-behavior-not-race.html

"Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise."

Let's not let facts get in the way when we can just vomit up our racist preconceptions about the world at large and use that as some kind of justification for systemic racism! Who needs truly blind sociological studies when we can just blindly trust that police treat everyone fairy and thus consider arrest statistics as a true representation of propensity to commit crime by a given race.

Certainly there's no way that blacks getting arrested more often for shoplifting has nothing to do with the fact that they're scrutinized more closely by said merchants.

I took umbrage at her stupid shoplifting example because she says that's what black people are "crying about". It's trivial because at the end of the day, if I'm not shoplifting, who gives a fuck what the merchant is doing (I mostly shop on Amazon anyways), but even her trivial example is flawed as fuck because of the particular set of lenses she uses to view the world.

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Black privilege here hard at work....

^ and when this happens it feeds right into the narrative of prisons are full of black people because of some genetic flaw that predisposes them to criminality. Next come the draconian drugs laws, destroyed families, destroyed lives, destroyed communities. Then MG and her many fans here pull these cherry-picked stats out and purposely ignore the full story.
 

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Black privilege here hard at work....

^ and when this happens it feeds right into the narrative of prisons are full of black people because of some genetic flaw that predisposes them to criminality. Next come the draconian drugs laws, destroyed families, destroyed lives, destroyed communities. Then MG and her many fans here pull these cherry-picked stats out and purposely ignore the full story.

Right, and I know the temptation is to be like "We're talking criminal behavior so who cares, just keep your nose clean", but there's two problems.

1) Differences in treatment of criminal offenses aren't the only places where systemic racism crops up. Job applications like I mentioned are another one. You can keep your nose clean as a whistle (are whistles actually clean? People get spit inside them. I digress) and this stuff still bites you in the ass and as soon as someone finds out you're black, or even suspects you're black, and opportunities to advance yourself and live the american dream get slammed in your face.

2) This differences in treatment of criminal offenses is one of the ways the system uses to break up black families. So many jokes about black fathers not being around and it's the same people making the jokes that are throwing them into jail for petty shit (failure to pay court costs, smoking a joint, etc). Even bail gets set at values that are impossible for poor people to pay so even if you're innocent your homelife still goes to absolute shit once you get caught under the LBS boot. Obama was trying to address this (I won't even say "trying". Obama was addressing this), but Jeff Sessions has turned that dial completely back because if there's one thing a white southern gentleman cannot abide it's uppity negroes having an actual opportunity to compete in America.
 

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I'm not sure why the notion of white privilege is so disputed. As a white male, it doesn't take much looking at the world for me to realize there's just a whole lot of shit I don't have to deal with.

I don't want to feel either guilty or smug about it. It's just a matter of acknowledging the reality, and trying not to contribute to it.
 

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I'm not sure why the notion of white privilege is so disputed. As a white male, it doesn't take much looking at the world for me to realize there's just a whole lot of shit I don't have to deal with.

I don't want to feel either guilty or smug about it. It's just a matter of acknowledging the reality, and trying not to contribute to it.

Because when you put your racist cap on, the white experience is the status quo, and everything else is something others have done to themselves.

Blacks get arrested for smoking pot at a higher rate? Don't smoke pot!
Blacks get arrested for shoplifting at a higher rate? Don't shoplift.
Blacks don't get job interviews if people find out they're black? Dress and talk like a white person and change your name if you need to.
Blacks get shot by police more often? Stop being threatening to police.
Blacks don't receive the same quality of education? Go study more.

With your racist cap on, every inequity under which black Americans suffer is something they brought on themselves. Even if someone provides them with actual statistics, why look at that when it's easier to assume that blacks are criminals and thugs and its their inherent criminality driving all the arrests rather than the other way around.

There's a lot of lily white fog coming out of the vents in this subforum lately. I don't think it's at all coincidental that this change in tone aligns so closely with the ascendancy of Donald Trump. You don't need to look to news articles to dig up examples of people feeling more free to fly their racist flag around town, it's been happening in here as well.
 

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There's a lot of lily white fog coming out of the vents in this subforum lately. I don't think it's at all coincidental that this change in tone aligns so closely with the ascendancy of Donald Trump. You don't need to look to news articles to dig up examples of people feeling more free to fly their racist flag around town, it's been happening in here as well.

I've noticed it in this subforum, and I've noticed it here where I live. You know, being that I'm not white and happen to live in a border state, it's not like you have to think hard about the kind of shit I've heard people say.
 
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Black privilege?? This the funniest shit I seen on here definitely lmao. As a 21 year old black man who lives in a city where 6 cops killed an unarmed black man in handcuffs, who's been pulled over about 30 times since 2015, and who's family has also been terrorized by police, Mercury is speaking straight bs lol. The definition of privilege is having an advantage in some way, shape, or form and I promise you black people have none in this society. So relax mercury and hold your L of a thread.