Black privilege

[Klingsor]

Are you judging someone based on their appearance? Why that's rather bigoted of you.

You know nothing of this man. He could have grown up in extreme poverty, been sexually abused, raised by a crack whore, forced to eat the dead body of his sister.

All lives matter!

You may be right. It's just hard to get past all the smarm.

Call me superficial.

 

[TexanStar]

Were you always so pompous and condescending or did you learn all that at some waste of your parent's money liberal college?

Just doing some drive by trolling then, gotcha.

 

[Mercurygirl]

Just doing some drive by trolling then, gotcha.

Meh, too urban. More like dropping lit matches in the intellectually dry forest of liberalism.

 

[TexanStar]

Meh, too urban. More like dropping lit matches in the intellectually dry forest of liberalism.

 

[deleted15807]

But then it could have been another of your pothead fantasies...go ahead and have another toke, Spider Woman.

And I thought I was the only one linking pot to the cognitive issues clearly present from the YouTube shopper.

 

[Mercurygirl]

You may be right. It's just hard to get past all the smarm.

Call me superficial.

Have to admit with the right coaching he'd probably be a solid understudy for the role of Freddie Miles in an off-Broadway show.

But it is after all his message that matters most in this context.

 

[Bncv1987]

Maybe the colleges want to provide services that are separate but equal. There is a track record of using that method. Maybe it'll work this time.

Anyone who's ever studied constitutional law knows that segregation is inherently not equal

 

[328982]

Are you judging someone based on their appearance? Why that's rather bigoted of you.

You know nothing of this man. He could have grown up in extreme poverty, been sexually abused, raised by a crack whore, forced to eat the dead body of his sister.

All lives matter!

None of that excuses the ghastly blow-dry

 

[Mercurygirl]

None of that excuses the ghastly blow-dry

Touché.

 

[Mercurygirl]

Smokey is definitely a conservative.

 

[Chrysippus]

Meh, too urban. More like dropping lit matches in the intellectually dry forest of liberalism.

Enough boo and she waxes poetic--I mean pathetic...

 

[twoton]

Anyone who's ever studied constitutional law knows that segregation is inherently not equal

I was being sarcastic. As per usual, I should've used the (un)official sarcasm font: green italics

 

[malakos]

Thanks for sharing the thoughts of that clearly underprivileged youth.

I still don't understand this frequently implied (though much less frequently made explicit) theory that people perceived as "privileged" are incapable of forming sound and incisive opinions on social phenomena that involve "oppressed" people(s). Or at least that they're incapable if their view diverges from the current Progressive narrative. I'm inclined to think that most humans are rational and of sufficient intellect to form decent insights on social phenomena if they really apply themselves and have good critical thinking tools. Is that not something you agree with?

 

[malakos]

That's a pretty racist video.

If you're interested in actually discussing why, I can go through it with you one issue at a time, but it seems more of your usual hit & run throwing racist shit out there so you can make a snide remark and wander off to find other threads to do the same.

I'm curious. However, I suspect that my perplexity at your calling this racist is probably a difference of definition. So what do you mean by calling this racist? Do you actually mean that you see him demonstrating antagonistic prejudice?

 

[TexanStar]

Do you actually mean that you see him demonstrating antagonistic prejudice?

Yes, though that is itself a definition of racism in the Oxford English dictionary (Merriam Webster limits it to the aspect of racial superiority, but there are other respected dictionaries around that define the term more broadly).

 

[malakos]

Yes, though that is itself a definition of racism in the Oxford English dictionary (Merriam Webster limits it to the aspect of racial superiority, but there are other respected dictionaries around that define the term more broadly).

So how do you think that young man in that video demonstrated antagonistic racial prejudice?

 

[Klingsor]

I still don't understand this frequently implied (though much less frequently made explicit) theory that people perceived as "privileged" are incapable of forming sound and incisive opinions on social phenomena that involve "oppressed" people(s). Or at least that they're incapable if their view diverges from the current Progressive narrative. I'm inclined to think that most humans are rational and of sufficient intellect to form decent insights on social phenomena if they really apply themselves and have good critical thinking tools. Is that not something you agree with?

I think the capability is there, but I also believe that *all* humans are situated within the horizons of their own particular backgrounds and experiences, and that more often than not these factors significantly influence their ostensibly rational insights, particularly on as loaded a topic as social phenomena. Is that not something you agree with?

 

[Chrysippus]

but there are other respected dictionaries around that define the term more broadly)

Why should that matter to Malakos, who picks the one definition with which he can proceed? It's intellectually dishonest, but that doesn't matter to him.

 

[Chrysippus]

I'm inclined to think that most humans are rational and of sufficient intellect to form decent insights on social phenomena 1) if they really apply themselves and 2.) have good critical thinking tools. Is that not something you agree with?

Two unwarranted assumptions. And no, I can't agree.

 

[TexanStar]

So how do you think that young man in that video demonstrated antagonistic racial prejudice?

Some of his statements are only wrong, but I'll skip those to address the ones that are more prejudiced.

"Black privilege is when people assume that you are poor because of racism and not because you are lazy and unmotivated".

This isn't a privilege that black people enjoy. The assumption that they're hit is that they're lazy and unmotivated. You give voice to this view yourself in this thread here where you directly imply that if black people only applied themselves and used critical thinking skills they would be on par with whites: https://www.lpsg.com/threads/black-privilege.453852/page-9#post-6544039

When we talk about privilege, we're talking about social frameworks that are in place, not arguments people might make at you. There's not a social structure in place that applies this in a way that could be taken as a privilege. The closest you could get to that is affirmative action policies in education, though those are intended to address issues with access and students still have to apply themselves and use critical thinking as you suggest.

"Black privilege is being wealthy without people assuming that your wealth was handed to you or that you exploited others".

Wealthy? Really? In a country where a disproportionately smaller number of African Americans (and especially hispanics) are wealthy, this is such a flatly bizarre topic to raise. If black people were becoming millionaires at the same rate as white people, then this might be something worth getting into. But the "face" of wealth and power in this country is white.

There are classist views that some people hold about the wealthy just as there are some wealthy individuals (like our president) who entered an unlevel playing field with inherited wealth, but talking about this as a privilege when it stems from the fact that it's harder for black people to become wealthy is absurd. It becomes analagous to having a whites only golf club and then saying how good blacks have it because they don't have to pay dues

"Black privilege is being able to commit violent crime against another race without people assuming that you're racist"

This plays off the stereotypes of black men as violent (again, which I just pointed out coming out of your mouth in another thread), and in particular, that their violence is directed at whites (which is also a stereotype).

It's notoriously hard to prove a hate crime. Neither whites nor blacks nor anyone is in a position where crimes of violence committed upon a person of another race are routinely prosecuted as hate crimes. The offender pretty much has to be screaming epithets while doing it in order for it to be a hate crime, and even that isn't a guarantee, because as West Virginia just showed, being gay isn't always considered a protected class and people can be screaming epithets at you while murdering you and it still doesn't matter.

"Affirmative Action bla bla"

In the case of a competition between two individuals, affirmative action that favors the minority is a privilege that minorities enjoy. In the case of societal impact as a whole, affirmative action is meant to address disparities in access to higher education. When minority classes have disproportionately low access to these institutions, that's the opposite of a privilege and AA is one of the tools that's intended to try and correct that.

I don't agree with Affirmative Action as a policy, but to call it "black privilege" is akin to complaining that people with disabilities get to park in designated spots closer to the store. Paraplegic privilege!

"Blacks overrepresented in Television"

Wut? This guy's starting to go completely off the rails now. Whites are over-represented. The percentage of white faces on TV and in film exceeds their proportion in society. Blacks are represented at the same rate as they are in society. Asians and Hispanics (especially Hispanics) are underrepresented. We (this forum, not you specifically) were just talking about this in another thread,

I don't have time to keep going through these, but yes, this guy is propagating known racial stereotypes and disseminating misinformation. People don't need buzzcuts and swastika tattoos to be saying racist things.