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Originally posted by jonb@Mar 29 2005, 07:40 PM
Yeah, well, I used an example from a real article. I don't think any Indians are 9 feet tall, even though plains tribes tend to be pretty tall. Not all of us are muscle-bound, either.

LOL @ So Pathetic. I hated that show too, almost as much as I hated Cats and Rent. (You can tell my experience with musicals has been sub-par. Music and theater are like chocolate and steak: They're fine as long as you don't try to combine the two.)
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Yeah, I can tell that you haven't had good musical theatre experiences. Well, if ya ever get up to Manhattan let me know and I'll make sure you see them in a whole new light! B)

I think few people are 9 feet tall and/or muscle bound. Ignorance annoys me to no ends.
 

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Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick+Mar 29 2005, 08:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr. Dilznick &#064; Mar 29 2005, 08:51 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>"there&#39;s no evidence that it&#39;s true"



Not sure if this qualifies as evidence, but...
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According to the "The male Latex Condom" (Document JC0003) published by the World Health Organization (WHO), the average size of the Asian penis may be a bit smaller.  To facilitate writing condom procurement specifications, the document tabulates statistics for several ethnic groups in appendix III.  A brief summary shows the average sizes (found by computing a weighted average of the WHO size ranges) to be about (length, girth in inches):

Caucasian USA: 6.2" long, 4.82" girth

Black USA: 6.8" long, 4.91" girth

Australia: 6.3" long, 5.26" girth

Thailand:  5.3" long, 4.42" girth

This data does show the Asian penis, on average, to be a bit smaller, and elsewhere in the document it is explained that Asian populations may prefer condoms a bit smaller than usual, to prevent slippage.

However, it is important to note that these are just averages&#33;  Individual men may lie far from the average, and the Asian data actually shows more variability than the other groups.  In fact, I have met Asian men that were extremely well endowed.

Something interesting from this data-- percent of men over a certain size by group:  (That is, how many are hung)

Over 8" long:
Caucasian USA: 2%
Black USA: 5%
Australia: 1%

Over 6" in girth:
Caucasian USA: 5%
Black USA: 9%
Australia: 14%

It looks like there be some thick dicks down under&#33;
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All that tells me is that Ozzies are the biggest liars&#33;
 

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Originally posted by Dude&#33;+Mar 29 2005, 08:27 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dude&#33; &#064; Mar 29 2005, 08:27 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>:9
Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick@Mar 29 2005, 08:51 PM
"there&#39;s no evidence that it&#39;s true"



Not sure if this qualifies as evidence, but...
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@Jun 23 2003, 01:51 PM
According to the "The male Latex Condom" (Document JC0003) published by the World Health Organization (WHO), the average size of the Asian penis may be a bit smaller. To facilitate writing condom procurement specifications, the document tabulates statistics for several ethnic groups in appendix III. A brief summary shows the average sizes (found by computing a weighted average of the WHO size ranges) to be about (length, girth in inches):

Caucasian USA: 6.2" long, 4.82" girth

Black USA: 6.8" long, 4.91" girth

Australia: 6.3" long, 5.26" girth

Thailand: 5.3" long, 4.42" girth

This data does show the Asian penis, on average, to be a bit smaller, and elsewhere in the document it is explained that Asian populations may prefer condoms a bit smaller than usual, to prevent slippage.

However, it is important to note that these are just averages&#33; Individual men may lie far from the average, and the Asian data actually shows more variability than the other groups. In fact, I have met Asian men that were extremely well endowed.

Something interesting from this data-- percent of men over a certain size by group: (That is, how many are hung)

Over 8" long:
Caucasian USA: 2%
Black USA: 5%
Australia: 1%

Over 6" in girth:
Caucasian USA: 5%
Black USA: 9%
Australia: 14%

It looks like there be some thick dicks down under&#33;
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http://www.lpsg.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4421
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All that tells me is that Ozzies are the biggest liars&#33;
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I don&#39;t think you could really call that scientific evidence, those are the same people who promote the idea of measuring infant penises to determine normalcy&#33; Most well-informed people know that penis size is far from fully developed at birth, so I have a tough time calling these people credible. Also, this is the highest racial variance I&#39;ve ever read, and I&#39;ve seen too many personally to believe this kind of nonsense. It sounds like a lot of non-black people imagining what it&#39;s like to be a hung black superstud. Prejudice, nomatter how you slice it.
 

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Originally posted by jeepwranglerboi@Mar 29 2005, 07:30 PM
Agreed jonb. It&#39;s also like saying that all Italians are short and hairy and all Jews are cheap. I am both ethnically (as well as Spanish) but I am neither of the above mentioned. You are not born racist you are taught to be.




When did I ever say that all blacks have bigger dicks? I said most. Just like most asians are shorter. Just because you got Yao Ming out there at 7&#39;4 doesn&#39;t mean that that is no longer true.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Mar 29 2005, 05:10 PM
I don&#39;t think you could really call that scientific evidence, those are the same people who promote the idea of measuring infant penises to determine normalcy&#33; Most well-informed people know that penis size is far from fully developed at birth, so I have a tough time calling these people credible. Also, this is the highest racial variance I&#39;ve ever read, and I&#39;ve seen too many personally to believe this kind of nonsense. It sounds like a lot of non-black people imagining what it&#39;s like to be a hung black superstud. Prejudice, nomatter how you slice it.
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The World Health Organization is a credible source. I&#39;m not saying the information should be accepted as factual, but to dismiss it as the imagination of some... er. Nevermind.

Anyway, a little more than ½ an inch doesn&#39;t seem that much of a difference. And I wouldn&#39;t call 6.8" "hung". I&#39;ve spent countless hours in locker rooms, and the difference in flaccid length between blacks and whites seems to be much larger than what the Kinsey report states (0.3" IIRC). On average, of course.
 
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WellHungWill: As a white guy, I have no problem admitting that black guys on average have a much bigger size than white guys. I have noticed this in the locker room, and anyone that watches both black and white porn will quickly realize the reality of the situation-black guys are on average quite a bit bigger. I go to a predominately black school, and when we shower after practice the truth is pretty apparent. Me and about 3 other guys on the football team can break above average among the black guys, but on average they are bigger than white guys. You just dont see many white people(Although they do exist) that are hung like mandingo or lexington steele. This is not to say that there are not exceptions to this rule, there are always exceptions. Guys, dont be in denial, because the fact of the matter is if some black guy has a dick that is 4 inches bigger than yours, its not the end of the world.
 

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Well, Jana, when they mean normalcy wrt infant penises, it&#39;s in cases to determine whether the boy should be raised as male or female. I personally wonder about the ethics of doing so, though; let&#39;s not forget the Reimer case.
 

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Originally posted by scotter@Mar 30 2005, 04:54 AM
When did I ever say that all blacks have bigger dicks? I said most. Just like most asians are shorter. Just because you got Yao Ming out there at 7&#39;4 doesn&#39;t mean that that is no longer true.
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And? Unless something&#39;s done to socialize American medicine, the Japanese will soon be taller than Americans.
 
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jibstar: People should chill out. Its just a fantasy it should&#39;nt be taken seriously. Madame Zara is right it does put pressure on black people who don&#39;t measure to it.
 

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Originally posted by jonb@Mar 30 2005, 11:48 PM
Well, Jana, when they mean normalcy wrt infant penises, it&#39;s in cases to determine whether the boy should be raised as male or female. I personally wonder about the ethics of doing so, though; let&#39;s not forget the Reimer case.
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Yeah, I poked fun at them a bit, but I find it supremely insensitive to decide whether to remove a penis based on size at birth. Now, I can understand if it is not formed properly or is damaged in some way, but these procedures have been done in the past without even consulting the parents, which I find abhorent.

I don&#39;t remember the Reimer case you referenced, care to expound?
 

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I think these particular doctors are asserting that if the penis doesn&#39;t meet their suggested "norm", that the child should be raised as a girl, which is why I take offense.
Yeah, that made it pretty easy to dismiss their penis size results. They have the vairation between blacks and asians to be 1.5&#39;&#39;, and that&#39;s about the biggest variance I&#39;ve seen yet.

Dr. Dilznik, I don&#39;t know about the rest of the site, it did look well put together, but that doesn&#39;t make their research or results any less suspicious.
 

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well, personally I am white and very large and thick in size and I have noticed that black men are generally bigger, but that&#39;s just what i&#39;ve seen first hand. i&#39;ve seen roughly 40 different black men naked, most of them in the showers and changing room, and almost all of them were extremely well hung. once they&#39;re naked in the locker room, anyone who&#39;s small immediately has a shamed look on his face because he knows the guy is really large. the ones at my gym really like to show it off, so most of the time they&#39;re in the changing room or shower, and if you look down you&#39;ll notice a very large penis on almost all of them. in an earlier post I mentioned this one black guy that works out at my gym who is literally hung about 11" soft , he&#39;s tall, built, extremely hung and uncut. it looks like they amputated a horse and put it on him, it&#39;s honestly that big. one of my good friends is black and I was working out with him, his older brother, his older cousin and his dad, afterwards we hit the showers together and I immediately noticed their sizes. hahaha, let me tell you, it runs in the family, my friends dad and his cousins had very very large penises, i&#39;m gonna guess his dad was around my length soft so like 9", his cousins looked about 8" soft and very thick, and my friend is about 8" soft as well, I wasn&#39;t really surprised but it was hard to keep from staring at them. I remember this one guy walked in to shower and he looked at all of us and turned his back. it was as if all the rhino&#39;s escaped the zoo and went to that shower.

It may be a stereotype to say black men have large penises but from what i&#39;ve seen they were all hung big. even in high school, the few black guys we had at that school we&#39;re very large and thick and very popular with the girls.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora+Mar 30 2005, 06:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Mar 30 2005, 06:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think these particular doctors are asserting that if the penis doesn&#39;t meet their suggested "norm", that the child should be raised as a girl, which is why I take offense.
Yeah, that made it pretty easy to dismiss their penis size results.
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I understand why someone would take offense to that, but I don&#39;t see why one would have to dismiss their penis size results, which you would think would be a LOT more "objective".



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They have the vairation between blacks and asians to be 1.5&#39;&#39;, and that&#39;s about the biggest variance I&#39;ve seen yet.

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Some internet sources list the average for East Asians as somewhere between 4" - 5.5" IIRC. Like I said, I&#39;ve spent countless hours in locker rooms, and yes, Asians are indeed tiny. Or at least they appear to be... What other studies are you referring to? I&#39;d like to read them.
 

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It&#39;s been brought to my attention that my posts in this thread may have been offensive to certain members. If that was indeed the case, I apologize.
 

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Duh, you mean spouting racial stereotypes is offensive? Really?

Read The Kinsey Report. It&#39;s self measured like all the rest and it has it&#39;s biases too, but it appears to be more gneuine in it&#39;s results than most. I think part of the problem with any current study is that the intention for the results is set before the study ever takes place. Kinsey was out to discover the facts, not create them, or at least it seems that way to me- I never met the man&#33; I think the other reason I like that report is that it was done before the huge puffing up of egos that took place in out country in the 80&#39;s. I can&#39;t imagine doing anything but laughing at any self-measured penis size study being conducted now&#33; Also, remember the pressure on black men to "measure up", I would think the tendancy to exaggerate their size would be strong.

Again, stereotypes cause us to think that "all people in that category are like THIS", when that is dismissive to the individuality of every human being. Some people may seem to fit into a supposed stereotype, but it would be a grave mistake to assume the next person you meet from that group will be the same. You wouldn&#39;t want people to assume that you&#39;re fat, arrogant, rude and a bad tipper just because you&#39;re white, now would you? You might be the nicest guy walking down the pike and give a dollar to every homeless person you see, but I&#39;d have to give you a chance to get to know you or I&#39;d never discover that about you. If you look at black people as good athletes with big dicks, you will certainly miss out on some potentially meaningful friendships with people who&#39;s emotional and intellectual capacity may be very much like your own.
 
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RLS: As a black male who is of average length (6.75x5.5), I can say that at times I feel inadequate because I think people are expecting me to have a 10 inch dong or something. But, it will never die so I guess my complaining is futile. I might be something of a hypocrite though because I can&#39;t get enough of hung black guys. :D
 

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Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick+Mar 30 2005, 10:50 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr. Dilznick &#064; Mar 30 2005, 10:50 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by madame_zora@Mar 30 2005, 06:20 PM
I think these particular doctors are asserting that if the penis doesn&#39;t meet their suggested "norm", that the child should be raised as a girl, which is why I take offense.
Yeah, that made it pretty easy to dismiss their penis size results.
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I understand why someone would take offense to that, but I don&#39;t see why one would have to dismiss their penis size results, which you would think would be a LOT more "objective".



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They have the vairation between blacks and asians to be 1.5&#39;&#39;, and that&#39;s about the biggest variance I&#39;ve seen yet.

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Some internet sources list the average for East Asians as somewhere between 4" - 5.5" IIRC. Like I said, I&#39;ve spent countless hours in locker rooms, and yes, Asians are indeed tiny. Or at least they appear to be... What other studies are you referring to? I&#39;d like to read them.
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And what do we mean by Asians anyway? Awfully big and ethnically diverse land to generalize about it seems to me. Maybe East Asian is the best way to describe certain peoples, namely the Japanese and Chinese

I have a close Thai friend who sports a 7" un-cut beauty with about 5-5.5" girth. Not big around here, sure, but on a 5&#39;8" muscled frame it makes an impressive sight&#33; But we would call him Asian though there&#39;s very little ethnic Chinese in him.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Mar 30 2005, 04:06 PM
I don&#39;t remember the Reimer case you referenced, care to expound?
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A boy whose penis was ablated during circumcision. John Money decided to do an experiment to see whether or not gender identity was innate by having the parents raise him as a girl. During this time, Brenda didn&#39;t feel like a girl, despite estrogen therapy and frilly dresses. In 1997, he underwent female-to-male sex change and married a woman. The story garnered international attention; Reimer committed suicide in 2004.
 

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Originally posted by ChimeraTX@Mar 30 2005, 04:14 PM
Tallness seems to have been sexually selected for in men, but the opposite is true for women. Whether or not there will be a net increase is arguable, but I think that humans probably will never reach a world average of 6&#39; 6".
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I didn&#39;t say it would. I just pointed out that the Japanese are getting taller, and Americans are getting shorter.