It was only after my recent infection of the latest in bogus malware that I became aware of the fact that there need be a good (and reliable) listing of sites to avoid. As discussed in the thread Trojan Dropper, many site operators may not even be aware that their sites are overrun with malware: viruses, trojans, hijackers, fraudware, and other such potentially harmful programming. In my case, the other night I happened to click on a viddy thumbnail at TubeKitty.com. Well, first of all, I need to kick my own ass for being there, because on past occasions malware attempted to load up on my pc from this SAME site. Guess I was just confident that I could squelch it. The first thumb I clicked on something (called Search hijacker proxy) tried to load up, and one of my security programs stopped it. But there was a lot more to this "package". Next thing I knew, bullshit critical disk/no disk error messages popped up and my computer shut down. Upon rebooting, it soon became apparent that some dickless designer of the current scum-ware added a new twist to this one: Booting up brought up only a blank screen (no icons) with a (phony) dialog box saying something about bad sectors/clusters "do you want to download (the bogus shit) to scan your hard drive?" The infection blocked starting up of task manager, start menus, and after I managed to bring up my scanner programs it blocked my using them too. ("You're not authorized..." it said). In moments after a few more phony critical error alerts it shut down my pc again (part of the "infection" which prevents your having time to figure a way around it.) Hmmm...clever... almost. Well, since I wasn't "authorized" to run my scanning shit, I rebooted in safe mode with a C prompt. Then on the windows startup screen I logged in as another user (of course, you should ALWAYS have several user profiles). At the C prompt I typed explorer ("YAWN") which brought up my file lists, then I found and started up my scan app (which of course now worked because I was a "different user"). :tongue: Part way through the scan another bogus critical error message came up. I knew it was about to shut down (so not to give the scan long enough to run). But by that time the software had already found Fraud.HDDDefragmenter, Fraud.DefenseCenter, Fraud.FastDisk, so I paused the scan and killed these three bozos immediately, which stopped the bogus shit in its tracks. Now able to run scans with all software I found these gems: Windows Scan Rogue System Policies.Disable Task Mgr (a hijacker) Microsoft.Windows.Active.Desktop Gen Malware Detection.VV Fraud.Sys Guard Fake Antivirus.C Ridding myself of them all (as well as the usual Right Media, DoubleClick, and Vundo.au) all was back to normal. But hey, take my word for it and stay away from TubeKitty.litter. Maybe we can start our own list of sites to avoid.