bone pressed - 7.25 non bone pressed - 5.5 I have 1.75" of fat. If I lose it I should look 9.5" length . Maybe slightly bigger because for example 20% bigger may look 22% bigger because of the proportions. Also it might look bigger because it will look longer compared to how thick it is. Perhaps that will add another 5%. I also plan on adding at least 7% in a year. Add that up -- bone pressed gain - 32% actual gain - 7% length/thickness appearance gain - 5% proportion to body gain - 2% total gain by appearance - 51% actual gain - 41% Initial look - 7.25" Final look - 11" womens' estimate increase - 10% her guess - at least 12" Let me know what you think. In my opinion we need much more emphasis on losing weight to increase our non-bone pressed.