Breonna Taylor Case

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According to the Kentucky AG, the police did knock and identify themselves, confirmed by a civilian witness, and so everything after that, but for the reckless random shooting by the now fired deputy was not the fault of the police.

If you knock and announce yourself and then have the right by law to break down the door and someone inside the apartment starts shooting at you, you must return fire.

Ms. Taylor died because her then boyfriend opened fire on police, not because the police were wrong.

The AG made the right decision and his decision should be respected but rioters want to loot and burn at the drop of a hat. Disgusting.
 

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According to the Kentucky AG, the police did knock and identify themselves, confirmed by a civilian witness, and so everything after that, but for the reckless random shooting by the now fired deputy was not the fault of the police.

If you knock and announce yourself and then have the right by law to break down the door and someone inside the apartment starts shooting at you, you must return fire.

Ms. Taylor died because her then boyfriend opened fire on police, not because the police were wrong.

The AG made the right decision and his decision should be respected but rioters want to loot and burn at the drop of a hat. Disgusting.

The police had a 'no knock warrant.' They had to ask for that because they claimed a risk if the knocked. It is ridiculous to say they knocked and announced. We have already seen these same police try to fabricate a phony report to justify what they did, lie about the victim and what happened. A 'witness' is not credible here at all. Spin all you want, it comes down to this. They had no legal reason to knock and so they did not.

The boyfriend was legally defending himself from intruders, unlike say little Kyle who went hunting out of state to 'defend' himself. You're doubling down on bullshit - for no other purpose than to inflame. It continues to amaze me that when a black kid just wants to walk home from a convenience store and is killed by a racist with a cop wanna be fetish, he's the bad guy who got what he deserved - killed for being black. A black man, exercising his 2nd amendment rights defending against an unknown intruder is also the bad guy, and the dead woman, an EMT who works everyday to save lives and is killed in her sleep basically got what she deserved for the crime of sleeping while black.

Wow. That's all that is left - just wow.
 

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According to the Kentucky AG, the police did knock and identify themselves, confirmed by a civilian witness, and so everything after that, but for the reckless random shooting by the now fired deputy was not the fault of the police.

If you knock and announce yourself and then have the right by law to break down the door and someone inside the apartment starts shooting at you, you must return fire.

Ms. Taylor died because her then boyfriend opened fire on police, not because the police were wrong.

The AG made the right decision and his decision should be respected but rioters want to loot and burn at the drop of a hat. Disgusting.
Was the grand jury made aware of multiple witnesses who said the police did not announce themselves? We know they heard from the ONE who said they did, and even he had multiple versions of his account.. The AG is going to have to release the evidence presented to the Grand Jury. (The race of the AG is irrelevant.)
 

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It never ceases to amaze me the amount of mental gymnastics that some do to justify the discriminatory actions of some. The police had several errors in their reports. Nothing they say is credible. neither is the conflict testimony in which one person claims to have heard while the others didn't.
 

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Then there is this

If the police in question were "returning fire" when how come the BF is not one who IS DEAD ??

Did the Bf even get shot ??

Breonna Taylor was not armed and she ends up with not one not two but SIX bullets in her

There has also more than a little suggestion that once they realized how badly they screwed up they, the cops just said "fuck it" and "let her die"

Did not provide first aid and took their sweet time in calling for paramedic's or "call an ambulance"
 

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Was the grand jury made aware of multiple witnesses who said the police did not announce themselves? We know they heard from the ONE who said they did, and even he had multiple versions of his account.. The AG is going to have to release the evidence presented to the Grand Jury.

So you saying the black Attorney General was negligent in his investigation? That he should have tailored the case to fit the leftist narrative, rather than do his job professionally and thoroughly?
 

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So you saying the black Attorney General was negligent in his investigation? That he should have tailored the case to fit the leftist narrative, rather than do his job professionally and thoroughly?

You are fanning the flames. Revelling in the trauma of your own citizens. Laughing as Rome burns.
 

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So you saying the black Attorney General was negligent in his investigation? That he should have tailored the case to fit the leftist narrative, rather than do his job professionally and thoroughly?
We don't know if he did his job thoroughly. I agree with the Governor of Kentucky who is calling for all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury be made public.
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear Calls for State AG to Publicly Release Breonna Taylor Info
During a Wednesday news conference, Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear called on Commonwealth Attorney General Daniel Cameron to release as much information concerning the investigation into the shooting death of Breonna Taylor as possible.

Taylor was killed by police officers in March as they attempted to serve a warrant. An indictment by a grand jury handed down three felony counts of wanton endangerment against former Louisville police officer Brett Hankinson. No charges in Taylor's death were announced. Governor Beshear said he believed that the public should see the information that led to the decision in the Taylor case.

Beshear said that AG Cameron "described the investigation but he talked about information. Facts. Evidence that neither I nor the general public have seen. I believe that the public deserves this information."
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear calls for state AG to publicly release Breonna Taylor info

 

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We don't know if he did his job thoroughly. I agree with the Governor of Kentucky who is calling for all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury be made public.
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear Calls for State AG to Publicly Release Breonna Taylor Info
During a Wednesday news conference, Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear called on Commonwealth Attorney General Daniel Cameron to release as much information concerning the investigation into the shooting death of Breonna Taylor as possible.


Taylor was killed by police officers in March as they attempted to serve a warrant. An indictment by a grand jury handed down three felony counts of wanton endangerment against former Louisville police officer Brett Hankinson. No charges in Taylor's death were announced. Governor Beshear said he believed that the public should see the information that led to the decision in the Taylor case.

Beshear said that AG Cameron "described the investigation but he talked about information. Facts. Evidence that neither I nor the general public have seen. I believe that the public deserves this information."
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear calls for state AG to publicly release Breonna Taylor info

So he brushed over this investigation? Didn’t want to find the officers guilty?

The officers had a job to do, serve a warrant. They got fired upon by a guy with a gun. What would you have had them do?
 

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So he brushed over this investigation? Didn’t want to find the officers guilty?

The officers had a job to do, serve a warrant. They got fired upon by a guy with a gun. What would you have had them do?

There appears to be a consensus that at least one of the officers acted inappropriately (to put it mildly). If the difficult circumstances don't excuse his behavior, surely the actions of the other officers are at least subject to scrutiny. The question is whether the investigation and subsequent grand jury decision delved deeply enough into the facts.
 

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There appears to be a consensus that at least one of the officers acted inappropriately (to put it mildly). If the difficult circumstances don't excuse his behavior, surely the actions of the other officers are at least subject to scrutiny. The question is whether the investigation and subsequent grand jury decision delved deeply enough into the facts.

So you are saying the AG and the GJ were negligent? Or it appears that if they didn’t come up with a decision that fit a different perspective [deleted unnecessary rhetoric], they had to be negligent. [Deleted off topic content]
 
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So he brushed over this investigation? Didn’t want to find the officers guilty?

The officers had a job to do, serve a warrant. They got fired upon by a guy with a gun. What would you have had them do?


How about for starters serve it DURING THE DAY

How about they surround the building in question so no "escape" would be possible

How about KNOCK actually knock and more than once

How about when they got no answer announce WHO THEY WERE AND WHY THEY WERE THERE and that the building was surrounded and that in X minutes they would be coming in AND do that MORE THAN ONCE

AND

Have the entire thing on video

Last but not least if they ARE going to "return fire" shoot at the person with the gun who is shooting at you and don't pump 6 bullets into an UNARMED "innocent bystander"

And then come up with bullshit reasons about why "she got what she had coming to her"
 

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Served a warrant, identified themselves, the boyfriend was armed, both standing in the hall when the police entered, he fired(and admitted) first hitting an officer and they returned fire.

The charges against the one officer won’t stick. He will claim he was justified in returning fire(and be correct). If anyone should be charged in her murder it should be the boyfriend.

The sad part about all of this is we go further down the rabbit hole of no longer taking responsibility for our actions. When you play stupid games you sometimes win stupid prizes. It’s unfortunate she lost her life, but at the very least part of the blame is on both her and her boyfriend.
 
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Three questions

1. How many witnesses were present during the no-knock warrant?

2. Out of those witnesses, how many corroborated the police version that they knocked AND announced themselves

3. How did the AG present that evidence to the grand jury?
 

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If you want to find fault with this case, you can certainly argue that the police procedures are plain wrong. The city as much as admitted it by settling for $12 million. But looking for vengeance against individual officers following policy while being shot at is wrong and this was the right decision.