Bringing up the lady-bits

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But this thing, where most people just pour on the sickly sweet compliments, doesn't help anyone. It's predictable and boring.
This "Every woman is beautiful!! All men are handsome!!" shit is no different than telling a suicidal person "Everyone is happy and so are you!!"
Acknowledge the ugliness, the depression, the unfairness of it all, then figure out a way forward.... Or whatever and what not.

I appreciate that. Kind of a lot.

I myself prefer to say that no matter how insecure a person may be, there are certainly people who appreciate the particular features some may be insecure about. Ya know, that whole 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' shit.

Good post sir. Good indeed.
 

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I appreciate that. Kind of a lot.

I myself prefer to say that no matter how insecure a person may be, there are certainly people who appreciate the particular features some may be insecure about. Ya know, that whole 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' shit.

Good post sir. Good indeed.

This post has so few words with so much meaning. It makes sense and puts things in perspective.
 

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Well I think a man's opinion will vary greatly on this subject. Personally I have seen my fair share of lady parts and I am probably if anything more attracted to those which women may consider unattractive: i.e with larger outer lips.

Im attracted to opposite sex on the basis of prettiness or distinctiveness of face and a combination of body and personality. The last thing I would be thinking about when a lady is undressing is the shape and appearance of her downstairs bits. I am sure many women would say the same thing about a man's penis but I am not sure this is a reasonable parallel given what it's used for.

I would reassure any sexual partner and find it hard to take seriously a suggestion I wouldn't like their bits if I had hitherto been keen on them. But that's just me I guess...
 
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Care to elaborate on that a bit?

Well what I mean is that the penis is a symbol of virility and manliness for men (and some though by no means all women). As such a misshapen or small penis may well have a bearing on either or both partners' enjoyment of sex.

On this issue I can say if I was small, for all the reassurance a lady could give me my lack of size would have an effect on my performance. Again this may be fucking dumb and I know not all guys would feel the same, much less the lady who may be quite happy if he is a considerate and sensitive lover but we can only ever speak for ourselves right?

FWIW I know full well men fixate far more on size than women do but this can still impact on sex.

Hope you get me and I don't come across an arsehole on this. Just giving my honest take.
 

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Well what I mean is that the penis is a symbol of virility and manliness for men (and some though by no means all women). As such a misshapen or small penis may well have a bearing on either or both partners' enjoyment of sex.

On this issue I can say if I was small, for all the reassurance a lady could give me my lack of size would have an effect on my performance. Again this may be fucking dumb and I know not all guys would feel the same, much less the lady who may be quite happy if he is a considerate and sensitive lover but we can only ever speak for ourselves right?

FWIW I know full well men fixate far more on size than women do but this can still impact on sex.

Hope you get me and I don't come across an arsehole on this. Just giving my honest take.

Keep in mind, women can share similar thoughts/feelings to what I emboldened. I know this from experience.

I get you, and you're not an asshole. Thank you for your honesty, I appreciate the conversation.
 

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Keep in mind, women can share similar thoughts/feelings to what I emboldened. I know this from experience.

I get you, and you're not an asshole. Thank you for your honesty, I appreciate the conversation.

I suppose that's totally right and as someone who has seen himself somewhat different to how others see him (at various points I've found myself ugly, pale, skinny and average downstairs) I should have known better than to put it like that. These are probably all deep as shit reasons I'm on this site as I love the endorsement and affirmation of it all especially from women.

I grossly oversimplified the situation but I do think it's far easier for a women sensitive about the appearance to be reassured by a sensitive lover not least because appearance is less intrinsically linked to functionality and I would argue femininity.

Sorry rather long winded partial backtrack there :)
 
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honestly, i would be thinking 'aw yeah, lets do this'. stopping to talk about anything would weaken the mood. i would greatly prefer that a woman forget about any disclaimer, besides, thats ridiculous.

if someone is worried, turn the lights down.
 
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There have been a few questions that get frequently asked to both the men and women here on our delightful penis forum... but one I feel hasn't really been asked of the men that us ladies have gotten more than a couple times.

Men with insecurities about their 'lack' of length have asked if there's a good way/time to bring it up to a woman before she sees it. I'd like to know from the gentlemen here, if a woman is insecure about the look/size of her vagina, should she put some kind of 'disclaimer' on it before she allows you to lay your eyes on her delightful bits?

I think it comes down to context and how you "disclaim."

If the subject (aesthetics/size of the vagina) somehow comes up, or perhaps we are talking about our junk, or about to send pics... I don't know, but if it happens in that context, ok. If a guy mentions that he loves a certain type of vagina, sure, now is a good time to say "mine is or I s not like that." If you bring it up out of the blue or find a way to force it into the convo, it might come off weird, and indicate that you are insecure (which is so attractive).

Also, consider the way you mention it, even if the context is relevant. If you mention that "speaking of crooked penii, my vag lips are lop-sided." That is normal, natural, and relevant. However, if you blurt out an apology for the way your vaginal looks right before I go down, it will be a signal that you don't value yourself (not a good thing).

A vagina size disclaimer is a little different, because it could, ironically, infer a preference for a certain size penis. If you warn a guy that you're deep or loose, straight up, he might fear (right or wrong) that you like penors longer or thicker than his. If you apologize for being loose AFTER sex, I'd say you more likely run the risk of making a guy feel inadequate, inadvertently.

A warning for tight or shallow vagina, to me says, be careful, please.

Finally, this is all subjective. If you have one labia that is the size of an eggplant, it warrants a heads up. If you send an email before a date explaining an ingrown hair, it screams issues. These are extreme examples, but where do we draw the line? When does it become so abnormal that it is feasible that a warning or disclaimer be issued? When is it only a big deal if you make it one? Judgement call. Yikes. We err one the self-critical side I think.

That's the rub I guess.
 
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I think I've said this before, but

If we're at the point where the clothes are coming off, I'm sexually attracted to her enough to where it doesn't matter. I don't think a disclaimer is needed, because when push comes to shove, there are so many other factors that contribute to that sexual energy that I'm usually not even thinking about that kind of stuff.