Inwood: Bounced from "Partyin' With Rush"
There has been some question about whether or not Bush has lied about matters pertaining to the war in Iraq. Obviously, there are the usual heated jibes by various posters that have a partisan bent. Possibly true, possibly not, possibly gossip, etc. I think you get the idea.
I'm of a mind that Bush has lied about many things. But I will only focus on one item regarding the possibility that Bush has lied. Following are quotes from Bush (quotes pulled from the White House website).
THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html
We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents. This is a man who spent decades hiding tools of mass murder. He knew the inspectors were looking for them. You know better than me he's got a big country in which to hide them. We're on the look. We'll reveal the truth.
http://www.lpsg.org/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=99;action=post;title=Start+new+topic
Now before I get to the bomb drop on this particular example it's important to put in some caveats. One, a president is a busy man and he can't vet everything he reads in a speech. That responsibility usually lies elsewhere. Also sometimes announcements get ahead of facts. You think you have something that proves your point and you want to stick it to your critics and detractors.
So my question for this particular thread is -- does this constitute a lie on Bush's part? I'm not sure. So I figured I would put it out there for everyone interested to put in their two cents worth -- hopefully with attribution to back up their opinion.
Now here's the other part of the equation. Mind you, as best I can find out this administration has not retracted anything regarding the initial speeches. So if you went and read what is listed on the White House site you would be lead to believe that the above are a true statements.
Bombs away.
Iraqi mobile labs nothing to do with germ warfare, report finds
Peter Beaumont, Antony Barnett and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday June 15, 2003
The Observer
An official British investigation into two trailers found in northern Iraq has concluded they are not mobile germ warfare labs, as was claimed by Tony Blair and President George Bush, but were for the production of hydrogen to fill artillery balloons, as the Iraqis have continued to insist.
The revelation that the mobile labs were to produce hydrogen for artillery balloons will also cause discomfort for the British authorities because the Iraqi army's original system was sold to it by the British company, Marconi Command & Control.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html
There has been some question about whether or not Bush has lied about matters pertaining to the war in Iraq. Obviously, there are the usual heated jibes by various posters that have a partisan bent. Possibly true, possibly not, possibly gossip, etc. I think you get the idea.
I'm of a mind that Bush has lied about many things. But I will only focus on one item regarding the possibility that Bush has lied. Following are quotes from Bush (quotes pulled from the White House website).
THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html
We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents. This is a man who spent decades hiding tools of mass murder. He knew the inspectors were looking for them. You know better than me he's got a big country in which to hide them. We're on the look. We'll reveal the truth.
http://www.lpsg.org/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=99;action=post;title=Start+new+topic
Now before I get to the bomb drop on this particular example it's important to put in some caveats. One, a president is a busy man and he can't vet everything he reads in a speech. That responsibility usually lies elsewhere. Also sometimes announcements get ahead of facts. You think you have something that proves your point and you want to stick it to your critics and detractors.
So my question for this particular thread is -- does this constitute a lie on Bush's part? I'm not sure. So I figured I would put it out there for everyone interested to put in their two cents worth -- hopefully with attribution to back up their opinion.
Now here's the other part of the equation. Mind you, as best I can find out this administration has not retracted anything regarding the initial speeches. So if you went and read what is listed on the White House site you would be lead to believe that the above are a true statements.
Bombs away.
Iraqi mobile labs nothing to do with germ warfare, report finds
Peter Beaumont, Antony Barnett and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday June 15, 2003
The Observer
An official British investigation into two trailers found in northern Iraq has concluded they are not mobile germ warfare labs, as was claimed by Tony Blair and President George Bush, but were for the production of hydrogen to fill artillery balloons, as the Iraqis have continued to insist.
The revelation that the mobile labs were to produce hydrogen for artillery balloons will also cause discomfort for the British authorities because the Iraqi army's original system was sold to it by the British company, Marconi Command & Control.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html
