Originally posted by Onslow+Oct 20 2004, 05:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Onslow @ Oct 20 2004, 05:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Oct 19 2004, 04:15 PM
Like I said, there is little point in speculation about it, he's a moron nomatter what.
I realize I'm turning into an asshole over this, but DID YOU SEE THE FIRST DEBATE???????? I just can't say it enough times. It wasn't a sentence or phrase he used, it was his serious display of overall stupidity! This is the man in the oval office! This is a man I would make fun of to his face if I heard him speaking to me in those terms face to face. I'm sorry, but I find it incredibly absurd that this election is even close, and I'm more ashamed of my country and what it's become than I ever have been before in my life. I would very likely not stay for four more yrs of bush.
Here's a point of contention though- despite overwhelming evidence of stupidity and misdoings, people feel compelled to give him the benefit of the doubt. This surely wasn't true of Clinton! Every time the man farted, someone was evalutaing the content. ........ Had he not drug us into a war we didn't want we (well you) would not feel so tied to him. This is a guy whose approval rating was in the TOILET before 9/11. With his daddy's arab connections, I will not be at all surprised if history does not reveal that the terrorist attack was orchestrated by the bushes in the first place and just got out of hand. Daddy bailed him out of everything else, why not give ol junior a little something to overcome so he'll look like a hero? If not for 9/11, he would be the international joke of a lifetime. Food for thought.
Or we could foolishly wonder if the dumbest guy ever to occupy the whitehouse was wearing a wire, when we can plainly see the shape of the box. Jesus!
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You my dear have VERY VERY serious issues. Try to keep the focus on yourself and keep your own side of the street clean. What am I saying? Gee, let's look at your comment that Junior is a Moron. How can I explain this to you? A moron would not be able to stand there on their own and if he were indeed a moron and if he did indeed have a box feeding him all the answers 2 things should be noted:: Either he would have blown you away with his supperior wit and intelligence (which I suspect he did anyway) or he would have looked confused and confounded with no ability to relay the comments being communicated to him.
Why bring George the first into it? That seems to be one of the biggies that the Dems keep dragging out,'Look what his Daddy did" Who cares what his father did? That logic is not logic at all, it is to use a word you might like bandying about STUPIDITY.
What infuriates me more? The way that you liberal minded(minded? Hmmm...that's a stretch that you even HAVE minds, but that's for another time), the point here is one of your friends walking down the street with her own home made pin which gave instructions to STAB BUSH. Nice going. Don't like the guy just kill him off. Say what you wish to about the Republicans at least we don't promote and condone violence against the other party. Oh I can hear you now! Bush was governor of a state with a death penalty. SO was BUBBA CLINTON!
Bush let more people be fried. There are many many more people in Texas than in Arkansas. By the way a big fact? Your pal Bubba let a mentally retarded man be executed (rumour has it that it was actually one of his illegitimate offspring).
As for your lunacy laced statement that nobdoy gave Clinton a chance, I think you'd best re-examine the facts. He was give SEVERAL chances. Face up to it honey, he was impeached but got to keep his job. Try to tell me that isn't being given another chance. Ask his wife if Clinton got extra chances. (Yes I realize that is their personal matter; however it proves he has been given more chances.) Chances? Very few people give a rats ass as much about his having affairs as we do about the lie. The lie which you lovely Dems manage to gloss over at every turn. hey let's just blame that (non-existant) right wing conspiracy.
The Dems jump up and down and tell how Junior avoided the draft with his connections---what about Bubba? The paper trail proved Bubba did this as well and Bubba didn't even go to the National Guard. Bubba who "Smoked pot, but didn't inhale." Hey we gave him another chance there too!
Leaving the country when Junior is re-elected? Didn't your pals Babs Streisand, Alec Baldwin and others say they'd do that 4 years back? You had best not use their travel agent or use the person they have helping them find homes in other countries.
Am I angry right now? Not even close yet. I am however disgusted with the nature of the Left-wingers who conveniently wear blinders when it suits them. People who vote according to a party line without looking at the horrors of their particular candidate.
Who is telling this to you? A registered DEMOCRAT. A gay man. A man raised in essentially liberal surroundings who got fed up with the fact that the Democrats have had some 40 years since The Great Society policies were launched and still haven't done what they claimed they would. Whereas you find the Republicans willing to explore and try new ideas the Dems are still telling of great those LBJ policies are. Well there are more people working at minimum wage jobs thanks to the proliferation of malls and monopolistic franchises. Come to think of it the people I see most often entering the doors of the 30,000 Starbucks coffee shops are also sporting those Kerry buttons. Nice to see that you'll put $5.00 down for a coffee with milk (cleverly called Latte) and then drop a nickel in the tip jar for the minimum wage employee.
Poverty?---Worse now than ever however for the first time since World War 2 it's main target seems to be SENIOR CITIZENS! Yes, the increase that is going through in January of 2.1% is being done during the Bush watch, and it's poor value is due to a vote by your pal Kerry and his cronies such as Whale Boy Kennedy. Bottom line most will receive next to nothing. Let's all issue a big hearty "thank you Senator Kerry for ramming that vote through to help ensure Bubba's popularity at the time by saving a few ducats"
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Promote Equality?---Oh yes the NEW equality where-in qualifications are less important than skin color or gender. I hope you don't fall victim to the doctor who got into med school because they had an extra 15% added to their exam scores.
Improve education? HAH!
Rejuvenate cities? Let's see we had decades of urban blight which is now being replaced by speculators who buy up acres of land and put up pre-fab homes that fall over at the drop of a pin and have paper thin walls. The cities in general have been left to their own devices for getting through.
Department of Housing and Urban Development? Another pathetic joke.
Perhaps your Democratic Liberal pals can get together and create a new "Even Greater Society" for the next generation to suffer through.
If it wasn't for the fact that I want the most sane minded person to be in charge of our country I'd leave the Democratic party and either return to the Conservative party (where I was at the start) or even register as a Republican. However I have learned that the Republican's put forward a QUALLIFIED candidate at all times, the Democrats present a dozen nut cases who vote on a party line ticket no matter what so when it comes to the Primary I vote for the most sane candidate (this year the pickings were woeful).
If a dozen Dems decided to slaughter all persons named with a particular name it would be voted through and probably by at least a dozen Democrats with the name slated for execution. Think about that instead of whether or not Kerry is taller than a porcupine or Bush is smarter than a super model. LOOK AT THE FACTS SWEETIE!
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Colourful rant. Slightly more coherent than Y&H19, but not much. Not really worth the trouble of discussing all of your points here since the points that you have made indicate that you are using your passion to justify your reasoning. It makes you feel good and appeals to others of the same mind, but it just makes your partisan world-view plainly obvious to all. And trying to discuss facts with partisans is a waste of time. The reason? Passion can't acknowledge a fact,
qua, fact, unless that fact feeds the passion.