Bush wanted to invade NY state

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  1. houtx48

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    I read that earlier today. He thought (wow) about it, but didn't. Cheney urged him to use the military to arrest some terror cell. But he sent in the FBI.

    I thought about running a red light today but didn't.
     
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    Cheney and Bush are dreadful. I have to give Bush credit for occasionally not listening to what Cheney told him to do.
     
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    and your problem with that is?
     
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    I'm with Jason.
    Dave
     
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    "I read that earlier today. He thought (wow) about it, but didn't. Cheney urged him to use the military to arrest some terror cell."


    "Cheney and Bush are dreadful. I have to give Bush credit for occasionally not listening to what Cheney told him to do." stevenvegasRe: Bush wanted to invade NY state
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    and your problem with that is?

    Nothing... if you don't mind violating existing Federal law:

    Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 36 Minutes Ago 04:34 PMDave NoCalRe: Bush wanted to invade NY state
    I'm with Jason.
    Dave 38 Minutes Ago 04:32 PMBig_ERe: Bush wanted to invade NY state
    and your problem with that is? 39 Minutes Ago 04:32 PMjason_elsRe: Bush wanted to invade NY state
    Cheney and Bush are dreadful. I have to give Bush credit for occasionally not listening to what Cheney told him to do.

    "and your problem with that is?"

    I wasn't aware the Dick Cheney had a problem violating federal laws, the constitution, or state laws. It is my understanding the Dick believed he was "above" the law. The quote that "Cheney is a Dick" really does have double meaning!

    It is unfortunate for George Bush that Dick Cheney was his Vice President and had so much power for about six years.

    To Bush's credit, he removed Cheney has his chief spokesperson and the most important power behind him somewhere about the sixth year of his administration.

    By then, Bush's place in history had already been set. History will record this era in history as having the good Bush (dad) and the bad Bush. (son) This will make George's place in history appear lower than it is and it already is low enough.

    Good Bush will be remembered as the Bush who lost a second term because he placed principle above his own political career. Bad Bush will be remembered because he placed his reelection important enough to him to violate principles and instead base his re election on political gain.

    Sad, the father and son are opposites in character. I'm a Democrat. I voted for Clinton over Bush. But I had then and still have a high regard for the Elder Bush as a man. His son George considered character only in his last two years of presidency.

    The ironic thing is that George went in to take care of what Daddy didn't take care of. Instead he gave certain credibility from history's standpoint that he, the Elder Bush made the right decision in only following the UN mandate and not marching on Baghdad and removing Saddam as ruler of Iraq.

    I'm certain that George had his total confidence in letting Cheney run the show in foreign affairs and that is what destroyed George Bush's presidency. Cheney will be the Vice President that will be remembered for screwing up George's place in history.

    Sometimes it is better to just not be remembered at all like his father's Vice President. I've already forgotten his name. Nice guy. But he played no real place in the first Bush's administration except be there if the president became too ill to be president or passed away.
     
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    did'nt Bush say that the constitution was nothing but a god damn piece of paper quote unquote? if bush had any balls she needs hung by them.
     
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    King George I inspired me to change party affiliations, King George II confirmed that I absolutely and positively made the correct decision in doing so.

    History will probably show Bush I as a flawed man who tried. It is unfortunate for all of is that it will show Bush II at all. Bush II is a Presidency that we should be ashamed of. He pandered to every lunatic ultra extremist right wing political cause and those of that feeling celebrate him for that. Unfortunately we elected a man based on these ideals that was not capable of leading the country and with innumerable failed policies brought us to where we are now.

    Many will suffer because of the decisions made over an 8-year-term that unfortunately for all of us proved to be a national embarrassment.

    Now the number one word we need to fix anything is "unification", which I do not see happening. Those taking viewpoints in the extreme on either side are doing everything they can to prevent this.

    This is sad. . . .
     
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    1. Military acting as police is against federal law (Posse Comitatus);
    2. Violates long-standing practice (since the Civil War);
    3. Violates the Fourth Amendment (against "unreasonable" search and seizure since the framers experienced marshall law under the British); and,
    4. Anyone in the military will tell you they don't want that mission unless there is an invasion or another civil war.

    Need anything else?
     
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    Bush Sr. lost because he pledged, "no new taxes," and then did precisely the opposite at the behest of the Democrats. Even my mom, a true wool coat Republican, admitted that Bush didn't seem to want to win a second term. All through the campaign he looked like he was going through the motions. He looked tired and haggard. I think this too was also a big factor compared to Clinton's friendly buoyancy and ready smile. Bush's VP was the eminently quotable Dan Quayle. Quayle's monumental flubs make Shrub Jr.'s acyrologia look positively amateur. Dan has to be remembered in history. He's far too funny to forget:

    "They asked me to go in front of the Reagans. I'm not used to going in front of President Reagan, so we went out behind the Bushes."

    "I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."

    "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history...this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

    and finally,

    "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."​

    How could Shrub Jr. hope to even compete with that and far more? I admit the gynecologist statement was great, but one home run does not a champion make.

    I really love that Bush didn't pardon Scooter Libby despite Darth Cheney's assurances to Libby that he would get him a pardon. It seems to really have pissed-off Cheney no end.
     
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    I agree that Bush 1 was a far better President than his son. No comparison actually. However, he was far too cozy with the Saudi's for my liking.
     
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    No kidding.
    Actually, I'd forgotten just what a hoot Quayle was. He really is even stupider-sounding than Dubya ... which is maybe not a great accomplishment, but still beyond the reach of most mortals.
    A great link, Jason.
     
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    That's not really a parallel, but I'll give you some leeway =)
     
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    nice but i don't rounding up terroists falls under local jusidiction. what did you expect the county sherrif to knock on the door and say excuse me were terrorists might you know where they may be?
     
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    nice but i don't think rounding up terrorists falls under local jurisdiction. what did you expect the county sheriff to knock on the door and say excuse me we're looking for terrorists might you know where they may be?
     
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    no I would expect the FBI to knock on the door - you know, that agency tasked with domestic law enforcement of federal matters?

    sheesh.
     
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    but then again when zippy got finished with the reading of My Pet Goat, he wanted to invade Guatemala, then someone told where it was located.
     
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    I really wish he had done. It would have been the cherry on the cake of his legacy.
     
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