BVH?

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  1. ManlyBanisters

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    Big vagina humiliation, that is.

    Can you imagine it?

    I can't see it myself - I just can't see a woman wanting to watch her husband or boyfriend fucking another woman with a tighter, snappier cunt - while insulting (or implying the insult of) her gaping, flapping hole. I just don't think it'd happen.

    What it is about female verses male (hetro in both cases, I guess) sexuality that SPH exists but there is no female equivalent? Or is it more to do with what men see as sexually important (in themselves and other men) verses what women see as sexually important(in themselves and other women)?

    For guys a lot of their sexuality appears to be tied up in their potency and size has become, incorrectly, classed as an indication of potency. So I can kind of understand if they can't get off on their own potency how getting off on someone else's might work.

    For women the factors governing sexuality seem, to me anyway, to be more complex - not because women are more complex than men, but simply because the societal norm for a long time has been the denial of female sexuality and a lot of us in the western world are still finding our feet in determining what we see as the vital components of our own sexuality.

    Looking at the celebration of male and female fertility in native art we see, for the most part, the phallus celebrated for the men and the womb for the woman. Would this mean the SPH equivalent in women could actually be a woman having her partner get someone else pregnant? Hmm, I can't see that one either. And I can't see blokes and the third party woman going for it either.

    Advertising might have us believe that the thinner woman hold the sexual power and therefore we would end up with bigger women watching their men screw skinny women. Um... no I'm not feeling that one either. Not as a humiliation thing.

    Maybe it just doesn't happen with women (or so rarely happens that it is not a named fetish) because, in the case of men and SPH, it is more about the humiliation and the power dynamic than it is about the penis. Maybe women get enough low-level (or not so low-level) humiliation in their day to day lives that it could never become a fetish.

    What say the great and the good of LPSG? (Or if they can't be arsed posting then what say the rest of ye bastards?)
     
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    Nothing about BVH would be amusing, nor a turn for me. If a man ever tried this with me he may just want to grab the nearest object to protect himself from me.

    The idea of watching the person I love have sex with someone else turns my stomach, I wouldn't want to kick his ass for that. I'd simply walk out disgusted by him.

    I've heard enough about skinny to have an eating disorder. Forget that. I want respect, I deserve it and there will be none of this humiliation crap. Or there's the door, I hope it hits you in the ass on your way out. Not that I have actually said those words to someone, but nothing about body humiliation does anything for me. It confuses me and upsets me. Not my cup of tea at all. I'm at a loss as to why someone would want to put someone down or how to go about liking this sort of treatment.
     
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    For me, this.

    In general, I think kinks are strange creatures. I'm not sure why I have the ones that I do, but I'm sure it has something to do with previous experiences and with my brain producing either an excess, not enough of, or some different electrochemical necessary to allow impulses to fire between a few axons and neurons.

    Erotic humiliation about the size of a body part over which we have no control is indeed strange. Erotic humiliation as a whole is strange. I've known women who like to be made to "confess" their sins over someone's knee while they're spanked; women who are Dommes but thrill at having to wear a butt plug all day because it arouses them and makes them feel just the tiniest bit submissive to carry on throughout their day with a toy in their ass. The various things that float our own boats are certainly strange.

    Why is their no female counterpart to SPH? That's a tough one to answer, You bring up some interesting potential analogues, but also admit that none of them are truly a humiliation aspect. I think you answered your own question with the
    statement. Does that mean that that is the answer? Who knows. From what I can tell, it kind of seems like the whole SPH "thing" has really taken off in the past 10 years or so. (I could be totally off on that one.) Maybe it's not an issue of women having no analogue to SPH, but maybe that women have no analogue to SPH yet?

    Regarding my own SPH: I'd call it small penis "honesty" rather than "humiliation." Are there feelings and things that larger penis can give and do that I can not? Yup. Can I overcome those things with different sexual tools (both physical and mental) in my sexual toolbox? Yup. A lot of the SPH practitioners (i.e., really messed up cats) on here have given all of us a bad rap. I don't respect men that have large penis more; I don't think that they're all inherently better than I; I don't believe that I am inferior to them; I have confidence in my sexual abilities; I am a confident, independent, intelligent, articulate alpha male. I'm just a porn hound, and LPSG has got some great LP porn. Besides, LPSG has some intelligent folks that offer interesting discussions on all manner of topics.

    I'll put myself into the "rest of ye bastards" camp...
     
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    The two greatest over-rated virtues in life are a big cock and a tight hole.
     
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    I doubt it will ever exist or at least ever be as popular as sph for a variety of factors.

    1.) Women that do have big vagina's, for the most part, don't know it. A big vagina's not like a small penis where you can spot it and identify it. You have to feel for a big vagina. Plus, I get the feeling a lot of guys tell girl's they are tight, regardless of whether it is true or not.

    2.) I'd have to think a woman who does have a big vagina could probably not be easily convinced that this is the case. She'd probably just think she's elastic or whatever excuse I've heard women come up with. You know, "my boyfriend can shove his 10x7 dick balls deep into me, but he tells me I feel tight so I must be elastic."

    3.) Even if a girl had a big vagina she could do kegels to tighten it. There really is no similar exercise that men can do that have the same consistent positive impact for their penis in terms of growing it. Point being, women can do something about their problem while men can't. (and yeah I realize a woman probably can't change anything about being super deep, but I don't think most guys are bottoming out anyways)

    If anything, the closest thing to sph in the female community is probably when a guy humiliates a girl during sex with degrading terms such as "whore", "slut", "pig", etc, or through physical acts like fish hooking, gagging, and cumming on her in various ways. So I see women open to humiliation in a somewhat similar way men are, but bvh just doesn't seem like a likely route.
     
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    This is correct. The female equivalent of SPH is being humiliated and degraded by being called a slut/whore, made to gag/choke, etc.

    Only one of these kinks is accepted on this site. Can you guess which one?

    I wonder why... :rolleyes:
     
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    Actually I don't think that is the equivalent at all - and I don't believe you think it is either, Patch. It's too broad and male subs take similar humiliation. It is not a body part thing - it is a whole person thing.

    KTF - you are rather missing the point and your assumptions about the way women perceive their own genitals and act are, to me anyway, offensive. I don't want to answer you point by point because I feel that'll swing the thread way off track - but your general idea that a big vagina would be the woman's own fault (that she too ignorant and arrogant to fix) and a man with a small penis is blameless (and powerless to fix) is an interesting window into how your mind works on matters like this.

    Uncle B - you are right. No surprises there.

    shr - thanks for the long and thoughtful reply. Some of what you say ties in with the character humiliation thing Patch and KTF comment on, women getting off on being made to confess. I still think it is not an equivalent of SHP for women, but I think it is interesting that the humiliation that women partake in is almost entirely character driven, largely based around the fact that enjoyment of sexual stimulation is a bad character trait for a woman.

    My take on SPH is that it is all about how the man views his own penis - Do you think there is a single body part that women focus on in the way a man focuses on his penis?
     
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    100% true.
    Most women will NEVER admit that the size of their vagina might be the problem. They will always blame the guy, no matter what happens.
    BVH would never work because women simply wouldn't believe it if a guy told her that her vagina is too big and/or loose. She would just think that the problem is his penis size.

    It must be really easy to be a woman. If they're unhappy with anything regarding their body, they can get it changed. And none of their body parts have such a significant impact on their partners sexual pleasure as the penis does - which btw is something men can't change.
     
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    Easy for a woman? Because she can surgically alter anything?
    There are so many things that you have said that are ignorant, and am almost willing to be that all the sexual displeasure you cause women has absolutely nothing to do with penis size or vagina capacity, and everything to do with your ignoranance. Although, from the way you see so convinced that loose vagina's are the ruin of all your sexual short-comings I'm sure that there maybe be no choice but labotomy to cure it.
    Maybe we should ask the doctor performing my vagina tightening to sew your mouth shut and cut off all your appendages. I don't think a single woman would disagree with it and we would like you so much better if you just didn't talk or post.
     
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    Hahaha! Are you really serious or are you just that pathetic? :biggrin1:

    Oh, and I haven't said a thing about my own sex life, so your assumptions/conclusions about me are - unfortunately for you - false. Tough luck, retard.
     
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    Wow.

    You're a horrible person and completely out of touch with reality. I wholeheartedly believe that you ought to be set adrift on a raft in the middle of shark-infested waters for an indefinite period of time with no food or water.
     
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    No, I'm really serious. The only thing that would make you any more intelligent is if you just shut the fuck up. Period. End of discussion.... Last thing I write in response to you, because I prefer not to waste my time on ignorant assholes.
    And ps: stick around here long enough and you'll understand why posting such stupid shot on the women's boards doesn't fly.
    Oh that's right... You don't have much experience with women. Well, aren't we off to a fresh start?
    Why dont you go play with your penis or something, fucktard.
     
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    ****Big vagina humiliation, that is.****

    I would like to explore this topic more. Maybe because I hear guys joke about it, a little too often.

    I have never been told that I am too big and maybe that's for the reasons already stated. How can a woman know if she's too big. No matter how it feels to us, we still don't know how it might feel to the guy.

    Also, what is fish hooking? Never heard of it in this context.
     
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    And he is banned...
     
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    Thank lord. Ok, back to the topic at hand.. I'll jump in when my hackles go down and I stop bearing my teeth.
     
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    If I actually said any of that (except for the powerless to fix part), I could understand why you would think my post is offensive. Good thing I didn't.

    This whole notion that you think I believe that if a woman has a big vagina it's her fault or a guy with a small penis is blameless is rather ridiculous and is something that I reject. We are made the way we are. I think it would be pretty rude and frankly disgusting to blame people or find fault with people over something that they really have no control over. (Although that last sentence should be viewed in the context of this conversation only)
     
  17. ManlyBanisters

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    I said:

    because you said:

    *back-pedal, back-pedal, back-pedal* :rolleyes:
     
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    You really think just quoting me and then putting in parenthesis "arrogant", "ignorant", "women's own fault", etc, next to what I say somehow makes your point valid?

    LOL:lmao:

    Here let me quote you and demonstrate how ridiculous your post looks

    See how dumb that looks?
     
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    Firstly, minor point, but those are brackets [] not parentheses ().

    Secondly, my additions to your post were there to illustrate where I saw what I commented upon in your text. The fact you choose to attempt to ridicule my manner of responding instead of answering the content of my first post to you is very telling.

    I think we may be done here. :smile:
     
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    The only thing that is telling is that you are clueless as to how to counter my arguments. Let me give you a hint, just calling my points ignorant and arrogant actually makes you look ignorant and arrogant. A better idea would be to counter my points by explaining why what you think what I wrote is wrong.

    Also, I really had no choice but to ridicule your post because the vast majority of it makes no sense. For example, in your post you quoted me and wrote
    Honestly, wtf does that even mean? How am I supposed to respond that? How do you expect me to interpret that? Are you saying that I'm implying that it's the woman's fault that kegels tighten her vagina? It's the woman's fault that she has the option to do kegels? I have no idea what to say. And trust me, much of the rest of your post left me just as baffled.
     
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