BVH?

[Chantillylace]

Haha did you really just make a new profile to argue with me on the Internet? Fucking idiot. Please don't procreate I think one of you is enough for all the world... Now please go do something good for society and kill yourself.

No, I'm really serious. The only thing that would make you any more intelligent is if you just shut the fuck up. Period. End of discussion.... Last thing I write in response to you, because I prefer not to waste my time on ignorant assholes.
And ps: stick around here long enough and you'll understand why posting such stupid shot on the women's boards doesn't fly.
Oh that's right... You don't have much experience with women. Well, aren't we off to a fresh start?
Why dont you go play with your penis or something, fucktard.

Wow, you really are a stupid cunt. I bet your IQ isn't even above 50. Not to mention that you're an ignorant, shallow and brainless size queen.
Go out and play on the freeway, loser.

Ithought maybe you all would find this as amusing as I did... Sorry it's hard to copy/ paste on my phone... But if you can read it you'll surely laugh...

 

[ManlyBanisters]

OK - I see - you really didn't get what I was trying to do. I wasn't using the bits in brackets to say what I thought of your post - I was trying to say where I read that you were accusing women of being arrogant, ignorant, etc.. I'll try again.

I said:

KTF - [...]your general idea that a big vagina would be the woman's own fault (that she too ignorant and arrogant to fix) and a man with a small penis is blameless (and powerless to fix) is an interesting window into how your mind works on matters like this.

because in your post you said:

1.) Women that do have big vagina's, for the most part, don't know it. A big vagina's not like a small penis where you can spot it and identify it. You have to feel for a big vagina. Plus, I get the feeling a lot of guys tell girl's they are tight, regardless of whether it is true or not.

The bit I have highlighted in blue strongly suggests that you believe women (many women, at least) are ignorant of their own bodies.

2.) I'd have to think a woman who does have a big vagina could probably not be easily convinced that this is the case. She'd probably just think she's elastic or whatever excuse I've heard women come up with. You know, "my boyfriend can shove his 10x7 dick balls deep into me, but he tells me I feel tight so I must be elastic. [arrogant (and ignorant)]"

The first bit I have highlighted in red strongly suggests that you believe these women are arrogant about their vaginas. The second bit suggests you believe that women respond both arrogantly and ignorantly to being able to take a large volume object in their vaginas.

3.) Even if a girl had a big vagina she could do kegels to tighten it. There really is no similar exercise that men can do that have the same consistent positive impact for their penis in terms of growing it. Point being, women can do something about their problem while men can't. (and yeah I realize a woman probably can't change anything about being super deep, but I don't think most guys are bottoming out anyways)

The bits highlighted in green here suggest you believe that a large vagina can be fixed by kegels, a corollary of that would be that if she chooses not to kegel her 'problem' is her own fault.

I was using the highlighting, with bracketed comments referring back to the phrases I used in my first response to you, to show from where I had drawn my conclusions.

 

[Chantillylace]

Oh and yes... He/she/alien... Pmed me... I would block it but it seems pretttttty savvy at creating new profiles to argue with me on the internet.

 

[ManlyBanisters]

Ithought maybe you all would find this as amusing as I did... Sorry it's hard to copy/ paste on my phone... But if you can read it you'll surely laugh...

There's a thread called PMsing at the top of this forum. That might be a better place to post it than in this thread. That and report the guy to the mods for coming back with a new account. Pissing the argument all over the thread is a little uncouth. I know he started it, but still...

 

[Chantillylace]

There's a thread called PMsing at the top of this forum. That might be a better place to post it than in this thread. That and report the guy to the mods for coming back with a new account. Pissing the argument all over the thread is a little uncouth. I know he started it, but still...

*sigh* ok. no harm intended...I just thought it was amusing. I'm done with it anyway.



Now that I'm all giggly, I'll comment on the bvh OP... I know I'm a little late and possibly already ruined any ideas I have regarding it.. But here it is none the less:
I would have to agree with most everything that you have said to this point, manly. I may be on the younger side of the age bracket that posts in these forums and albeit, possibly less experienced or somewhat naive.. But I feel like our instinct has a lit to do with why women would not have a sph equivalent. I'm not a biologist, or an expert but in the world of instincts, the female would choose the best mate based on survival of the fittest. I don't suppose that beg penises have much to do with survival but there are also other factors. Many animal males put on shows to impress their potential mates. Thus, perhaps, human males view larger penises as more visually pleasing, therefore scoring the ladies. That would be my guess towards why some have like sph.
I think that sex is a primal need/desire and our fetishes that we associate with with it can usually be linked to a time before we ever even evolved to the point we are at now
I hope that makes a luck of sense.

 

[ManlyBanisters]

Yes, yes indeed - that would explain high-heel fetishes nicely. :wink:

 

[hsarge]

Pinzl (sounds like pinhead) and any of his reincarnations is a rampant sexist. As I said before 'A fool who opens his mouth, proves it'.

 

[Patchos]

This is correct. The female equivalent of SPH is being humiliated and degraded by being called a slut/whore, made to gag/choke, etc.

Only one of these kinks is accepted on this site. Can you guess which one?

I wonder why...

I stand by what I said in my post here. I have no doubt there are women out there that like being told they have a loose, unsightly gaping vagina too. It's all the same shit.

SPH is simply guys wanting attention. They want sexual gratification like everyone else. Why is it so complicated for people to understand that concept?

 

[shr1125]

SPH is simply guys wanting attention. They want sexual gratification like everyone else. Why is it so complicated for people to understand that concept?

I don't disagree, but where would men who are in committed relationships that still want SPH fit in with this idea? They're getting attention but still want that SPH feeling.

Thoughts?

 

[Patchos]

I don't disagree, but where would men who are in committed relationships that still want SPH fit in with this idea? They're getting attention but still want that SPH feeling.

Thoughts?

In committed relationships where they don't seek SPH from their partner do you mean? Maybe because their partner isn't into SPH? Why don't you ask them? What difference does it make?

 

[petite]

I've been thinking about this topic a lot and I'm not sure what to say about it. Part of the problem is that I don't fully understand humiliation as a sexual kink. When I don't understand something, I am curious about it and it's something I've tried to understand better, but I'm sure that I still don't fully understand it, and that prevents me from being able to confidently make a speculation about why it's so different in men and women. It's just so hard for me to understand humiliation of any kind as a sexual kink.

I've even chatted with one man who was very articulate about the psychology of SPH. He said that penis size is such a sensitive issue with men that it generates this intense fear in him and it's that fear that turns him on. He said that he used to also fantasize about other humiliation scenarios, such as men who would chain him to a dirty toilet and spit on him and rape him, you get the picture, but that over time he found himself gravitating towards fantasies of having his cock humiliated directly.

To me, the way that he described his humiliation kinks sounded could be the effect of "sperm competition" described in this article in Psychology Today, which explores many of the reasons why men are into cuckolding. Sperm competition causes men to feel much more inspired and passionate, because they feel the need to outdo their competitors. I would imagine that the more intense the jealousy and other negative feelings inspired, the more intense the effects. According to the article, both parties in cuckolding couples report that they have hotter and better sex after the man has been cuckolded! (There was another article about how men who are with women whom they believe are "hotter" than them have sex with them more frequently and with more intensity. Sperm competition behavior due to fear of rivals?) Inspiring jealousy in a man evidently can have a sexually beneficial side effect. In men there seems to be a place where humiliation, jealousy, fear, and desire all meet that doesn't occur in women (concluded based upon the fact that 99% of all cuckolds are male, according to the Psychology Today article I linked to above).

Incidentally, in one thread about cuckolding on FetLife that I participated in, one woman told me that she has a cuckold fetish. I believe she said that they're called cuckqueens. She's the only woman I've found who is into it.

(Horny People: Please don't PM me, I'm not personally interested in cuckolding or being a cuckqueen. I'm just an inquisitive person.)

 

[B_subgirrl]

Maybe it just doesn't happen with women (or so rarely happens that it is not a named fetish) because, in the case of men and SPH, it is more about the humiliation and the power dynamic than it is about the penis.

I've never seen/heard/read of BVH happening, although I haven't looked for it either so that could be why I haven't seen it. If it exists at all, it certainly doesn't seem to be very common, or we would see it at least occasionally here.

I guess the nearest equivalent (and still not a true equivalent) that I HAVE seen come up (although I didn't look for that either), has been breast-size related humiliation, but even that doesn't seem to occur very often. And I've never seen it named, as SPH has a name, it just sort of comes up in passing.

Maybe there's no real equivalent because women (in general) aren't as absorbed with a single body part as men are (in general). However, that's a pretty poor explanation, considering the fact that a lot of women do seem to be obsessed with breast size.

Erotic humiliation about the size of a body part over which we have no control is indeed strange.

Agreed!

Erotic humiliation as a whole is strange.

I agree here too. I'm into humiliation play and I couldn't begin to explain why.

Maybe it's not an issue of women having no analogue to SPH, but maybe that women have no analogue to SPH yet?

Interesting thought.

Regarding my own SPH: I'd call it small penis "honesty" rather than "humiliation." Are there feelings and things that larger penis can give and do that I can not? Yup. Can I overcome those things with different sexual tools (both physical and mental) in my sexual toolbox? Yup. A lot of the SPH practitioners (i.e., really messed up cats) on here have given all of us a bad rap. I don't respect men that have large penis more; I don't think that they're all inherently better than I; I don't believe that I am inferior to them; I have confidence in my sexual abilities; I am a confident, independent, intelligent, articulate alpha male. I'm just a porn hound, and LPSG has got some great LP porn. Besides, LPSG has some intelligent folks that offer interesting discussions on all manner of topics.

I don't get SPH at all, and there's no hope in the world that I'll ever be able to help someone fulfill any SPH fantasies (being 100% sexually submissive myself), but I really admire and respect your attempts to understand it and your brilliant explanations.

This is correct. The female equivalent of SPH is being humiliated and degraded by being called a slut/whore, made to gag/choke, etc.

I don't agree at all, for the same reason MB disagreed - SPH is specific to men. The other forms of humiliation you mentioned are not specific to one gender, but are enjoyed by both.

 

[KTF40]

The bit I have highlighted in blue strongly suggests that you believe women (many women, at least) are ignorant of their own bodies.

I wouldn't use the term ignorant because it's not like this is easy information for a woman to acquire. Like I said before, a vagina is not a penis. You can't just look at it and tell if it's big or small. And it's not like it is easy for a woman to do a depth/width test because a lot of how much a woman can take depends upon her arousal.

For you to call my original statement ignorant is nothing but personal opinion without any facts to back it up. Granted I don't have any facts for my statement and am also going by personal opinion, but at least I have logical reasoning behind my statement which is it's just easier for guys to know how they stack up than it is for women to know how they compare.

The first bit I have highlighted in red strongly suggests that you believe these women are arrogant about their vaginas. The second bit suggests you believe that women respond both arrogantly and ignorantly to being able to take a large volume object in their vaginas.

No, not really. A woman who can take a 10x7 penis/object balls deep in her vagina has a big vagina. That's a fact. Most women can't do that, hence why those that can have big vaginas and those that can't have average or smaller vaginas. You know, kind of how a guy who is 6'10 is considered tall, while a guy who is 5'10 is average, and a guy who is 5'6 is short. With regards to my comment suggesting women are arrogant, I could slightly agree with you on that front, however much of that comment is directed towards the attitude of women I see on this site. It seems many women on this forum use the term elastic to describe themselves, nobody admits to having a big vagina. I wonder why? No kidding the vagina is elastic, but that's completely missing the point.

The bits highlighted in green here suggest you believe that a large vagina can be fixed by kegels, a corollary of that would be that if she chooses not to kegel her 'problem' is her own fault.

Well I wouldn't say "fixed". I don't think there is much a woman can do about the depth of her vagina. But obviously kegels are believed to tighten the vagina muscles.

And frankly, I didn't imply if a woman doesn't do kegels her big vagina is her own fault. Clearly, the whole point of my statement is comparing why sph is popular and bvh will probably never be popular because men can't do anything to make their penis bigger while women will always have the option of making their vagina tighter. If you want to misconstrue that to me blaming women for having big vaginas, go for it. But just know, that has nothing to do with the point I'm making and is not a belief I subscribe to.

 

[Patchos]

I agree here too. I'm into humiliation play and I couldn't begin to explain why.


I don't get SPH at all, and there's no hope in the world that I'll ever be able to help someone fulfill any SPH fantasies (being 100% sexually submissive myself), but I really admire and respect your attempts to understand it and your brilliant explanations.

I don't agree at all, for the same reason MB disagreed - SPH is specific to men. The other forms of humiliation you mentioned are not specific to one gender, but are enjoyed by both.

I think it is the same. Any humiliation play is batshit crazy in my opinion. That you don't understand SPH is the same as me not understanding any of the stuff you like. That there is no exact equal to SPH is irrelevant. It's all nuts in the end.

A kink is a kink. Attention is attention. I don't think there's much to explain beyond that.

 

[ManlyBanisters]

For you to call my original statement ignorant is nothing but personal opinion without any facts to back it up.

OK - you are now officially too stupid to talk to. I've stated quite clearly repeatedly that your post suggests you think women are 'ignorant'. I never said you or your post was ignorant.

If you can't even understand that on the third, or is it fourth, explanation then you're not going to understand any of the rest of what I'm saying. Y'all have fun playing with your wee-wee now :smile:

 

[B_subgirrl]

I think it is the same. Any humiliation play is batshit crazy in my opinion. That you don't understand SPH is the same as me not understanding any of the stuff you like. That there is no exact equal to SPH is irrelevant. It's all nuts in the end.

A kink is a kink. Attention is attention. I don't think there's much to explain beyond that.

I think they're quite different, but I agree with you that humiliation play is all nuts :tongue:. I can't see any logic to any kind of humiliation play, although I'd like to be able to - I like to know WHY things happen or exist. It is indeed nuts though.

 

[KTF40]

OK - you are now officially too stupid to talk to. I've stated quite clearly repeatedly that your post suggests you think women are 'ignorant'. I never said you or your post was ignorant.

If you can't even understand that on the third, or is it fourth, explanation then you're not going to understand any of the rest of what I'm saying. Y'all have fun playing with your wee-wee now :smile:

Hmm, that's kind of funny because I remember you quoting me and writing this on post #17 of this thread

Women that do have big vagina's, for the most part, don't know it. [ignorant]

Look miss piggy, you can squirm around all you want, but that post is clearly implying that you think my statement is ignorant. Funny how you would later try and change your words later after even you realized how dumb your post was.

Feel free to keep calling me dumb, ignorant, or whatever names you want to use. I'm just trying to have a conversation and just because we appear to disagree, you get your panties in a bunch and refuse to defend your position. But I guess I'll just have to take your advice and continue to have fun playing with my wee-wee. In the meantime, you can continue to have fun playing with your rolls miss piggy.

 

[basincreek]

I find the idea of a big vagina as a weird turn on. So if a woman was into BVH I'd be all for giving it to her. Except I guess I wouldn't view it as "humiliation" since to me it would be a bonus.

"Oh you have a huge pussy? Awesome!"


One of my stranger kinks.



ETA: I would never do it while screwing some other chick. But if I'm doing her and she wants me to talk about how I can barely feel her....fine. Strange but it would kinda turn me on. Can't imagine a gal every actually requesting it though.